Help Wiring 8 Pole Switch Ibanez S, Two active humbuckers, 1 vol, 1 tone, 5 position sw.
Jim S.
Feb 23 2014, 07:16 PM
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Anyone have experience wiring the 8 pole switch on an Ibanez S prestige? I spent many hours working through schematics and deciphering the original wiring.

The old neck pick ups have two outputs and the bridge has just one. It goes to a 4 or 5 position switch with 8 poles.

The new pickups have just one output from each pickup. After wiring it the best I could I have all positions on the switch work except one, the top neck setting is open. The original design splits the neck pickup between two terminals and some of the terminals were jumped and some were grounds for the original pick up.

Since the new ones are active there are less configurations possible but weirdly the switch still changes the tone.

I think I can figure out which terminals need jumped but a little experience here would help. Thanks guys

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Mertay
Feb 23 2014, 07:23 PM
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its a ym-50 switch I guess? you could search like that or the guys at jemsite are pretty helpful with that stuff smile.gif

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Jim S.
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Feb 23 2014, 01:23 PM) *
its a ym-50 switch I guess? you could search like that or the guys at jemsite are pretty helpful with that stuff smile.gif


Thanks Mertay, I have searched the site and the internet in general but found not a whole lot about how they work with this switch and pick up combo. Ill have to start a thread there too. Thanks man!

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Darius Wave
Feb 24 2014, 10:49 AM
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Could You post a photo of this switch and Your current connections? Maybe I could help?

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Jim S.
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Feb 24 2014, 04:49 AM) *
Could You post a photo of this switch and Your current connections? Maybe I could help?

Here is a pic of the schematic I made taking it apart. Not sure if this helps.

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Jim S.
Feb 26 2014, 06:06 AM
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I got it wired and did a small demo of how.

Here's the link http://youtu.be/uiVi5dAG9jY

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Darius Wave
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I will take a close look at home but this Ibanez had originally the 5-way switch and 2 extra options for humbucker split and parallel colis connection? That's what Ibanez did in 5-way switch in 2 humbucker on board guitars. I will take a look at live wire but the probably have no coil split option so You can't wire those to keep original Ibanez connections. Best would be to replace the switch for a tele 3-way switch to get regular "bridge-both-neck" options. I
ll confirm once I made detailed analysis

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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Feb 26 2014, 11:32 AM) *
I will take a close look at home but this Ibanez had originally the 5-way switch and 2 extra options for humbucker split and parallel colis connection? That's what Ibanez did in 5-way switch in 2 humbucker on board guitars. I will take a look at live wire but the probably have no coil split option so You can't wire those to keep original Ibanez connections. Best would be to replace the switch for a tele 3-way switch to get regular "bridge-both-neck" options. I
ll confirm once I made detailed analysis


Thanks Darius. Just so you know all positions on the switch are working fine. Originally the neck pickup had a split coil but bridge had just one output. I jumped the neck coils output on the according pins on switch.

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QUOTE (Jim Seekford @ Feb 26 2014, 08:59 AM) *
Thanks Darius. Just so you know all positions on the switch are working fine. Originally the neck pickup had a split coil but bridge had just one output. I jumped the neck coils output on the according pins on switch.

I'm in the electrical industry, but I don't really screw with guitar electrical. On the other hand I've literally wired up thousands of switches and equipment. Do you have a schematic, or part number for your switch? If you could scan your drawing; it could be helpful. All switches work the same; I can't imagine it being very complex. Make sure you use silver solder to give you the best connection.

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Darius Wave
Feb 26 2014, 11:31 PM
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Ibanez had it's special wirring for 2 humbuckers (most of producers used only 3 way switch).

This switch is not complicated tongue.gif We have 2 independent circuits - 4+4 pin. We can do independent switching operations on both. For example changing the pickup and making the coil split (coils connection cables to ground connection) on the second circuit. It's way hard to write this don on paper. I would make You this wirring within 20 minutes if You would be my regular customer in the service...but it usually takes 10 x as much time when trying to give remote feedback smile.gif

When You brought live wire humbucker iwth 2 wire output (shield / ground + hot) the only thing You can do is:
1. Insert 3 way switch and make it "the usuall way"
2. Solder neck output to 2 pins of the 5-way and get neck pickup sound on 3,4, 5 positions. Twisted wirring was available only for 4-wire conductor of passive pickups. Second circuit was used to make this:

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But seems like You already figured this out smile.gif








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