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GMC Forum _ Bands and Guitarists _ Kirk Making A Mess Of Some Kind Of Monster
Posted by: Scott Gentzen Dec 13 2007, 12:28 AM
Some may have seen this before, some maybe not. It's Metallica in the studio so if you're offended by crude language, etc, don't watch..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=546KjKMB9kw
I find myself watching this every once in a while. Some may argue whether Kirk Hammet's a great player or even a really good player, but he's a heck of an influence to a lot of guitarists. If I remember right, Pavel started out playing Metallica riffs.
Two things in the video that keep me coming back:
The obvious one is that even good players can make a complete mess out of a song.
The not so obvious one is the lack of music-speak. "The first one starts on the open, the second one starts on this one (points at the third fret) and then the third one starts on that one (points at the fifth fret)."
Maybe I'm not as bad off as I think I am. 
(Edit: Reading this back, it's sounds to me like I'm bashing Kirk a bit. That wasn't my intent. It's more of a reminder that everyone has good days and bad days and that when I'm having a bad day I need to remember that it's not that bad and everyone goes through it.)
Posted by: Zephyr Dec 13 2007, 12:47 AM
Oh, man I had a good laugh. Especially from about 1:23 on... anyways, everyone has bad days, I agree completely. Some days I can't even seem to play the simplest of things.
Posted by: swingline Dec 13 2007, 01:08 AM
Hey everyone has those riffs that just don't comply with them. Just when it is me it happens to its not on Youtube and its not funny.
Posted by: Wallimann Dec 13 2007, 01:43 AM
I love it!
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: ibanezkiller Dec 13 2007, 01:46 AM
I LOVE METALLICA as you all know... there my favorite bands but even the pros have some things that take work. It's not like once your in a band even the hard stuff comes natural. I think a lot of people think that. "Why Can't He Play That? He IS In A Band!"
i have seen it before and laughed...
METALLICA ROCKS!
Posted by: RodneyU Dec 13 2007, 02:27 AM
Great post, thanks! Hell, I love Kirk, its good to see even he can struggle at playing something at times.
Posted by: Guitarman700 Dec 13 2007, 03:13 AM
kirk has no idea what the hell hese doing.
Posted by: SLASH91 Dec 13 2007, 03:15 AM
Would you stop bashing Kirk on every post that is made about him, please?
Posted by: ibanezkiller Dec 13 2007, 03:15 AM
I hope you joking or just talking about the video!
Posted by: Guitarman700 Dec 13 2007, 03:17 AM
im talking about the video, ok?
Posted by: ibanezkiller Dec 13 2007, 03:27 AM
Yep.. i was just asking lol im not mad...
Posted by: SLASH91 Dec 13 2007, 03:31 AM
Yeah, I'm not mad either, I just don't like seeing someone I like and that has influenced me getting bashed
Posted by: ibanezkiller Dec 13 2007, 03:32 AM
same... he is the reason I started.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Dec 13 2007, 05:17 AM
yeah, same here...
Posted by: RobM Dec 13 2007, 05:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=546KjKMB9kw
I find myself watching this every once in a while. Some may argue whether Kirk Hammet's a great player or even a really good player, but he's a heck of an influence to a lot of guitarists. If I remember right, Pavel started out playing Metallica riffs.
Two things in the video that keep me coming back:
The obvious one is that even good players can make a complete mess out of a song.
The not so obvious one is the lack of music-speak. "The first one starts on the open, the second one starts on this one (points at the third fret) and then the third one starts on that one (points at the fifth fret)."
Maybe I'm not as bad off as I think I am.
(Edit: Reading this back, it's sounds to me like I'm bashing Kirk a bit. That wasn't my intent. It's more of a reminder that everyone has good days and bad days and that when I'm having a bad day I need to remember that it's not that bad and everyone goes through it.)
Some times it's very hard to play (interpret) what someone else has written and to play it exactly as they have it in mind. Especially if it's the first time that person or anyone for that matter has ever played it outside the one who wrote it. As for what I mean: James and Lars write all the music and James writes all of the Lyrics for Metallica songs, then they bring the finished songs to the group and introduce them one by one. What I think that video is showing is the first time that particular song was ever brought to the group and it's the first time the band is doing a walk thru on the song. Not an easy thing to do, especially when a song changes up as much as that one does. That and Kirk is definately having a bad day. Nice to see that they are as human as you and I are.
Posted by: Pavel Dec 13 2007, 10:12 AM
Saw that one before, as we have some Metallica fans here i will not comment it but it is just as the YouTube title says it.
Just notice how many gear and pedals they have there 
Posted by: David.C.Bond Dec 13 2007, 10:26 AM
Very wise!
Posted by: Davide Dec 13 2007, 10:39 AM
just like me and my guitar partner in my band
drummer, bassplayer and singer goes then to drink a few beers and when they come back we still trying this same F***ing riff. So why not the pros?
I find it funny
Kirk is a hero but a human person too, so it´s natural, I bet that Hetfild have this kind of days too
thanks for sharing this one
Posted by: Scott Gentzen Dec 13 2007, 12:27 PM
I agree wit the core of your post.
But for a little more perspective on the video clip, it actually wasn't the way St Anger worked. After I caught that clip, I watched the movie (Some Kind of Monster) again last night so it's relatively fresh in my head. They actually jammed on these songs and worked together on the lyrics together instead of the normal way they'd been doing it.
No kidding. It's amazing the amount of gear they had. It drive me nuts the first time I saw the movie trying to ID all the different gear they had around. I guess when you have that kind of money you can get whatever you want.
The oddest thing I remember seeing was a Nord Lead. Metallica with a synth??
Remember when they took Trujillo into a room to pick his gear (who the hell shows up to an audition with no gear??)? The guy said that the band had around 500 guitars..
Posted by: Smells Dec 13 2007, 12:55 PM
Kirk is a great guitarist for sure, I do remember seeing a programme on the making of the black album, and Bob Rock gave him hell coz he hadnt done enough homework (as he put it) on his solo`s.
I think its great that you get to see that these people are human and do make lots of mistakes, brings it all into reality
Posted by: mattacuk Dec 13 2007, 01:20 PM
Good thread! poor old kirks only human, I liked his facial expressions im sure we all look like that sometimes!
edit: Why isnt Kirk useing his metronome ?? eh eh??!
Posted by: chast Dec 13 2007, 01:36 PM
Damn, the whole time Im reading Kris instead of Kirk again and again
I spend too much time on GMC
But I think that is a day that everybody will have sometime, so whatever, it is just human
It would be boring without any mistakes
Posted by: botoxfox Dec 13 2007, 01:37 PM
+1
Posted by: Toni Suominen Dec 13 2007, 04:15 PM
I love Metallica, but that was just hilarious!
Posted by: Tomy Jeon Dec 21 2007, 11:30 PM
Oh well, Kirk's still a guitar god.
Posted by: Spiderusalem Dec 21 2007, 11:40 PM
lol look at lars in the background laughing.
"Ok? *holds up horns* C'mon man!"
he sounds like he should be in that ficticious gang "the warriors"
Posted by: david80 Dec 22 2007, 07:49 AM
Thanks for sharing....It is too funny
Posted by: McGoo Dec 22 2007, 09:15 AM
It's good to see that being talented and world famous does not exclude you from having a mental block
Posted by: Pablo Vazquez Dec 22 2007, 02:35 PM
LoL. Funny video!!!! Remember... guitar players are humans not machines!!
Posted by: Existenz Dec 23 2007, 11:39 PM
That video was pretty funny, but i wasn't laughing at him i was laughing with him since i think everyone has been there and i'm not even talking strictly with guitars either, someone can do something and its just not clicking in your mind... Nice to know artists are human.
Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Dec 25 2007, 09:08 PM
One video shows nothing, I saw Kirk doing some serious playing. Definetly he wasn't at his best here.
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