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Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 2 2010, 05:58 PM

Hey guys, so i just got amplitube 3 in my pc, i'm testing it for something like 3 hours already, and i gotta say it's rocking hard.
I'm a big fan of GuitarRig4, but i gotta say amplitube 3 is not too far from the sound i like, and considering im only using it for 3 hours that's a good thing to say.

I dont really like the user interface tho, guitar rig ROCKS, super easy to edit, save, recall presets, but amplitube looks soooo complex and old school for me.

Will put up some sound samples later on, so anyone tried it so far?

Adrian

Posted by: jafomatic Mar 2 2010, 06:03 PM

I think someone in my old MTP group used amplitube... NoSkill maybe?

Posted by: Ruzz Mar 2 2010, 06:49 PM

I tried it for a few hours.. There are alot of cool new stuff.. But quality wise I think the Amplitube 2 sounds just as good..

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 2 2010, 09:23 PM

i kind off feel a difference, hear it more "real", will play some more later on, my ears are tired already

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 3 2010, 02:17 AM

I will test it soon. I just got GR4 so I'm testing that. I can notice the difference in the feel of the software, definitely more dynamic. Not that big improvement tho, I think the version deserves 3.5 name, not 4. Manufacturers switch numbers fast these days because of piracy..

Posted by: audiopaal Mar 3 2010, 01:07 PM

Please post some samples if you can

I've tested Guitar Rig 4, and I like it better than number 3 for sure..
The high-gain tones are much better in the newer version, and easier to dial in good tones.

But the clean tones and effects are pretty much the same imo.

Posted by: Deleted Mar 3 2010, 02:03 PM

I love Guitar rig 4, expecially the grafitier sound. I also like Amplitube clean sound, for example the EJ clean. I'm going to try the 3rd version.

Posted by: Giacinto Mar 3 2010, 02:27 PM

u cant use guitar rig 4 with a pod x3 properly right? problem is the delay?! is there a cheap hardware to get ur a signal without delay which works with guitar rig 4 ?

Posted by: jafomatic Mar 3 2010, 03:30 PM

Sure you can. The sound you hear in your headphones is processed by the POD X3, but all the line-6 devices allow you to record the dry signal if you choose. If that's what you tell the DAW to record you then have a pristine dry track that you can assign to a mixer insert that has GR4 or whatever plugins you choose.

So:

- create a sound that you want in the pod X3, the only difference should be "it doesn't sound quite good enough to me"
- record the dry sound
- assign that track to a mixer insert in your daw
- assign guitar rig (or other) plugin(s) to that mixer insert
- create the tone in that plugin(s) that you think sounds better
- render and listen
- didn't like it? change the tone in the plugin as many times as you want
- render and listen
- repeat

Posted by: Staffy Mar 3 2010, 05:35 PM

Are You meaning latency or delay (in the meaning of echo)?
I also find GR4 a lot better than GR3, and yes, also Amplitube is better for clean tones, especially the Fender edition.

//Staffay

Posted by: Giacinto Mar 3 2010, 05:52 PM

oh thanks for the answers. yeah i mean latency problems sorry .. thought i could play with the guitar rig 4 sounds via the pod without latency.. so all in all with my pod guitar rig is just a possibility to work on the tone after its been recorded right?

Posted by: jafomatic Mar 3 2010, 05:56 PM

Correct. If there's some other no-latency solution for what you've described, it might require replacing hardware; doesn't seem worth it given what you already have.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 3 2010, 09:18 PM

You must buy a better soundcard. EMU0404 PCI might be a good solution if you are on the budget, it will have little latency to work with. Some latency will always be present tho, depending on the bulkiness of the DAW project and amount of processors used in the chain.


BTW I just tested REvalver MKIII, who hasn't tried it, it's definitely better than GR4 for overdrive.

Posted by: Deleted Mar 3 2010, 09:36 PM

It's great the idea to a multitrack audio editor, but I think GR4 sounds much more better!

Posted by: Staffy Mar 3 2010, 09:47 PM

+1 EMU0404 is outstanding in that price range, and I also found Revalver very good for overdrive sounds, but more for metal-like sounds though. But as I said in another post, the thing that really does the trick here, is the convolution reverbs in these simulators, and I bet I can just take a line-signal from the amp or a distorsion box and put a convolution reverb on it (simulating a tube amp & box) and make it sound just as good as this software in itself.....

//Staffay

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 3 2010, 10:58 PM

i tested it, and i didn't liked it too much, yeah the overdriven tones are good, but i find them a little bit too sharp, not sure why.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 3 2010, 11:10 PM

Perhaps you tried the previous version MKII? I didn't liked that one as well, but I've tried a new one and it's very good for metal.

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 4 2010, 01:21 AM

oww could be, do you have a link for the new version?
i remember it sonded good for dist sounds, maybe now it's improved !

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 4 2010, 01:31 AM

Sure, here's the link!
http://www.peavey.com/products/revalver/index.cfm

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 5 2010, 04:48 AM

hey guys, here are some samples of Amplitube 3, didn't have the time to get into much details with the sound, but i liking it so far, sounds very organic to me, one of the things i like about amplitube now, is the organic feel of the sound with the volume knob of the guitar.

So far my fav amp is the orange, sounds better to me than the GuitarRig4 orange:
 orange.mp3 ( 3.06MB ) : 359


This is a nice marshall:
 marshall.mp3 ( 2.31MB ) : 297


And im not sure what's this, but love the thick tone:
 tube_lead.mp3 ( 1.67MB ) : 329

Posted by: maharzan Mar 5 2010, 08:01 AM

Those sound great Adrian. need to check that out now.

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 5 2010, 02:52 PM

making some more sound clips today

Posted by: maharzan Mar 5 2010, 03:59 PM

looking forward to it.

Why not a video? I saw your GR4 review on YouTube sometime back.

Cheers!!

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 5 2010, 05:01 PM

hehehe, could make a video too why not, gotta find a little time to make it, maybe tonight

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 5 2010, 05:44 PM

Great samples Adrian, I like all of them. The last one is nice and smooth

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 5 2010, 06:17 PM

thanks bro, yeah i really it too, maybe it's a mesa emu, not too sure but sounds very santana too me
now i gotta learn how to mix sound with that kind of lead tone, i'm sooo used to my sharp marshall tone

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Mar 14 2010, 08:57 PM

Nice sound clips, the orange one sounds very sparkly. It can be good for lots of things. When you mute the strings I can hear the saturation kicking in good. How would this be compared to the PODs by line 6?

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 15 2010, 04:39 PM

Hey yeah daniel, that orange kick some uh?, i don't know a lot of POD's, never own one, and just used em a few times in my studio (when other guitar players come to record), but for me, software modeling is "better", or at least more flexible now.

AND, that orange sounds like the real deal to me, it's getting harder to "hear" the difference for me between the real amp mic'd and the modeling, sounds very close with this new technologies, the thing is, the feel of the real amp is still miles away in the future (or in the past), dynamics, natural compression, speaker cab freqs... maybe in the future

Posted by: Dennizzz119 Mar 15 2010, 04:40 PM

What did you pay for it ?

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 15 2010, 04:46 PM

i payed i think like $300 pre order, maybe a little less, but if you wanna get a modeling software i'm still recommending Guitar Rig 4, don't really know why it sits on the mix better

Posted by: Dennizzz119 Mar 15 2010, 04:49 PM

Thats alot to me xD - Since im 16 xD
I found a cracked version of GR 3 though,

Posted by: Berglmir Mar 15 2010, 04:53 PM

I think the second half of your sentence was being swallowed somewhere, so here it is again!

"...which of course I will be paying for!"

Posted by: Dennizzz119 Mar 15 2010, 04:54 PM

Hahah I dont even think its buyable anymore since there is an GR4 xD

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 15 2010, 05:59 PM

im not against trying software and then buying, but if you like it, buy it, people worked on it and we all need our jobs

Posted by: Staffy Mar 15 2010, 06:05 PM

+1 on this, we're speaking of small companys here, that working day & night to be in the fore-front of those things, I don't mind the big evil company's beeing ripped off, but those guy's that are deserves all the credits they can have, as well beeing paid for their efforts!

//Staffay

Posted by: Dennizzz119 Mar 15 2010, 06:14 PM

Your right Even though I'm always broke XD

Posted by: Adrian Figallo Mar 15 2010, 07:42 PM

exactly that's the whole point, i prefer to have a cracked windows than a cracked guitar rig




just keep in mind all the karma thing, you are very young now, but when u start working you will realize that is important and fair to pay and get payed

Posted by: tonymiro Mar 15 2010, 08:16 PM

Well put Adrian,
also and with my moderator's hat on now, from the posting guidelines:

7. Keep it Legal. Posts should not refer to illegal activities such as drug use, illegal file sharing, pirating of software etc. For a discussion of why GMC disallows some of these activities see this thread.


Denis - if you have not read the guidelines you should do so asap.
tony - on behalf of the moderating team

Posted by: Staffy Mar 15 2010, 09:09 PM

Right Tony! In my own experience, there is always a lot of advantages using licensed software - even Windows, since You will probably spend more time to cracking stuff and to find cracked updates than beeing creative or work to earn the money to get a legal copy. Most software today is free to try out, and if You like it - buy it. Since I'm a software developer myself, I know what harm the pirating does to the creative process in developing new and good software - rather than spend the time to make it hard for illegal copiers to steal Your work.

Besides that, many of the cracked software have bugs and will not work as expected.

//Staffay

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Mar 16 2010, 04:38 AM

yeah, I'm an skeptic still, but for recording it can really pass, maybe not live

Posted by: Dennizzz119 Mar 17 2010, 01:06 PM

Yeh yeh i get it,
Soz