Jazz Theory From Basic To Advanced Study By Dariusz Terefenko |
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Sep 1 2020, 10:17 AM
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Has anyone used this and its accompanying work book?
It's well recommended on r/MusicTheory on Reddit. I'm not sure I've got what it takes to go through it as a disciplined study and it's not exactly cheap. -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Sep 1 2020, 02:33 PM
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I've never heard about this one. The only thing that makes me doubt is that it's for keyboard players. If these are your first steps in Jazz, I would go for a guitar oriented Jazz book.
You can also take a look at these sources: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=51072 https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lessonseries/Jazz-Notes/ -------------------- My lessons
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Sep 1 2020, 08:41 PM
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You need to be able to read standard notation relatively well.
The reality is is that there's no such thing as "Jazz" theory. There's just theory. How it's applied to jazz (or rock or whatever) is determined by how you use it. If you don't listen to a lot of jazz and/or desire to play jazz then a jazz theory book isn't gonna do anything for you. Do you want to learn how to play jazz music specifically? -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Sep 2 2020, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 1 2020, 08:41 PM)  You need to be able to read standard notation relatively well. The reality is is that there's no such thing as "Jazz" theory. There's just theory. How it's applied to jazz (or rock or whatever) is determined by how you use it. If you don't listen to a lot of jazz and/or desire to play jazz then a jazz theory book isn't gonna do anything for you. Do you want to learn how to play jazz music specifically? My interest in Jazz is pretty limited to chord melody, I'm a fan of Ted Greene (who isn't) maybe this book isn't for me to get proficient with Chrod extensions, reharmonising, tritone subs and backcycling 5ths etc I'm quite happy to learn and play around with Jazz standards from a chording position, Jazz soloing isn't really my thing at the moment. Maybe i just need to focus on Ted's stuff on the web. I do have an academic interest in theory, though I'm very aware that knowledge for knowledge sake is pretty much a waste of time if you can't put it into practice. -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Sep 2 2020, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 2 2020, 06:08 AM) My interest in Jazz is pretty limited to chord melody, I'm a fan of Ted Greene (who isn't) maybe this book isn't for me to get proficient with Chrod extensions, reharmonising, tritone subs and backcycling 5ths etc I'm quite happy to learn and play around with Jazz standards from a chording position, Jazz soloing isn't really my thing at the moment. Maybe i just need to focus on Ted's stuff on the web. I do have an academic interest in theory, though I'm very aware that knowledge for knowledge sake is pretty much a waste of time if you can't put it into practice. Even if you don't want to play jazz or don't listen to it very frequently, standards are great tools to expand our chords, scales and arpeggios knowledge. Rock/Metal is a bit limited in these aspects so I think that you won't regret getting into them as an excuse to practice chord voicings, chord melody, triads, arpeggios and many other elements. 3 good ones to start are: Autumn Leaves Blue Bossa It could happen to you -------------------- My lessons
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Sep 2 2020, 03:54 PM
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The Ted Greene website has a ton of good info.
You may find this playlist on my YT channel useful ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...IJhs0CFx_KSlEER These don't go in any order. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Sep 2 2020, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 2 2020, 03:54 PM) The Ted Greene website has a ton of good info. You may find this playlist on my YT channel useful ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...IJhs0CFx_KSlEER These don't go in any order. I actually been lurking on there for a while! Thanks for doing them. 
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Sep 2 2020, 05:52 PM
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Thanks for viewing!
Another one coming up in a bit. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Sep 2 2020, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Sep 2 2020, 01:52 PM) Thanks for viewing! Another one coming up in a bit. Great stuff mate!! Thanks for sharing. -------------------- My lessons
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Sep 3 2020, 09:09 AM
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Ken
Even thugh I subscribed to your channel I forgot about the Ted stuff. They are really nice and accessibly lessons. I downloaded his V system once, and that's just as overwhelming as Chord Chemisty even with some more structure in place. Ted is always my argument against people that say Kayne is a musical genius. -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Sep 3 2020, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 3 2020, 05:09 AM) Ken Even thugh I subscribed to your channel I forgot about the Ted stuff. They are really nice and accessibly lessons. I downloaded his V system once, and that's just as overwhelming as Chord Chemisty even with some more structure in place. Ted is always my argument against people that say Kayne is a musical genius. Kayne? I love this clinic, it's full of beautiful sounding chords and knowledge. -------------------- My lessons
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Sep 3 2020, 02:34 PM
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There's a great part in that Clinic I believe where the MI students are following the chart and one questions what Ted was playing when the chart had a G7 or something and Ted explained he played about 10 chords backcycling 5th with chormatic approaches etc
*mind blown* -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Sep 3 2020, 04:24 PM
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I don't "use" the V system. I understand essentially what it is but I don't need to classify things like that to play.
Ted was into organization. He loved to make lists. Lists of chords, lists of common chord progressions, lists of how many times a composer or band used the same chord progression, lists of musical styles, etc. They say that the V system was going to be a book ... maybe, maybe not. A lot of the stuff on the website is Ted's personal notes to himself. It can be totally overwhelming especially when it's presented all at once, which is now how we get it since it's all been collected and posted. It was never meant to be that way. That's why I do those 'quick' lessons on my YT channel. I just want to present some of the material and show that it's not all inaccessible or 'advanced'. *The gold in Chord chemistry are the chapters that proceed the chord dictionary. In those chapters he actually uses many of the voicings in musical contexts. QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 3 2020, 01:09 AM) Ken Even thugh I subscribed to your channel I forgot about the Ted stuff. They are really nice and accessibly lessons. I downloaded his V system once, and that's just as overwhelming as Chord Chemistry even with some more structure in place. Ted is always my argument against people that say Kayne is a musical genius. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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