Best Recording Device For Beginners, i know nothing about recording Options

[Trond Vold]

This is a toneport:


There is a USB plug on the backside of it that goes into the USB port of the PC/laptop. Then you connect the guitar to a input on the front.
You dont need your amp for this.

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This post has been edited by Trond Vold: Apr 10 2008, 12:53 AM

[slash85]

This is a toneport:


There is a USB plug on the backside of it that goes into the USB port of the PC/laptop. Then you connect the guitar to a input on the front.
You dont need your amp for this.

right mate ill get one of them but the cheaper version mentioned above in the previous threads........so i got a few more questions if yur willing to answer

1. when i use this toneport and start recording......will sound play through the speakers of the laptop whilst i have the reaper software on....or do u just hear the sound of an electric guitar being strummed .

2.with reaper.....say i record a riff....how do u insert a bassline or drumbeat over it.........do u have to somehow record them aswell or does reaper have them built in or do u have to import them from somewhere else

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[Trond Vold]

I dont have a toneport or reaper myself, so better to let someone with more experience using them answering those questions.

But you will get sound through your speakers, with or without reaper running.

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This post has been edited by Trond Vold: Apr 10 2008, 01:33 AM

[superize]

right mate ill get one of them but the cheaper version mentioned above in the previous threads........so i got a few more questions if yur willing to answer

1. when i use this toneport and start recording......will sound play through the speakers of the laptop whilst i have the reaper software on....or do u just hear the sound of an electric guitar being strummed .

2.with reaper.....say i record a riff....how do u insert a bassline or drumbeat over it.........do u have to somehow record them aswell or does reaper have them built in or do u have to import them from somewhere else

With the toneport you get a program called gearbox where you can choose different sounds....

To get sound from the tonport you need to cennect speaker or headphones t listened to the sounds....

And with reaper you have to insert the base and drumbeat seperatly and record the guitar over that

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[slash85]

With the toneport you get a program called gearbox where you can choose different sounds....

To get sound from the tonport you need to cennect speaker or headphones t listened to the sounds....

And with reaper you have to insert the base and drumbeat seperatly and record the guitar over that

so where do u actually get the bass ine and drum beats from though

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[Antipolitik]

Hi,

I used a POD XT Live some month ago, but man, I was tweaking those knobs more than I hit the strings on my guitar.
If you want a good metal guitar sound that's not expensive you buy a Digitech DF-7 which got both amp and mixer out.
You can buy an external soundcard with builtin preamp for recording. It shouldn't get too expensive.
The DF-7 has 7 different sounds. Check it out, even better, play it.
No need to mic anything, just sit all night when family is sleeping and create riffs. Perfect!

Guitar -> DF-7 -> Preamp (soundcard) -> Cubase

You could always buy an older version of Cubase, no need to have the most recent version when recording guitars.
I can recommend the following software if you are gonna make complete songs:


Wavearts (http://www.wavearts.com/PowerSuite5.html)
A Trackplug on a stereo group channel in Cubase is superb. Route your 2 L/R panned or 4 guitar tracks to this group
and use EQ, 2 compressor, noise gate, gain to tweak the sound. A really nice plugin. Use a compressor to tame the guitars, one to add attack or flatten out uneven volume on the recorded tracks. Lots of "presets" are ready to be tweaked.


Izotope Ozone
For mastering your tracks there is only one thing you need. Izotope Ozone. It also got many good presets but one tip is too tweak everything from scratch and not use the ready presets. It's impossible for those preset to know what you recorded so better to use your ears and go step by step. (Don't have Ozone activated when recording. It causes delays to the signal.) It's always good to have a reference track in Cubase. You are easily fooled by your own ears especially if you are playing in headphones. If you are making a let's say Disturbed kind of song. Have a track with them on a track and mute, unmute and compare while mastering.


Addictive drums
IMHO the best drum sound for the money. Great stuff.

I know these things costs money but if you are really serious about recording it's worth it.
One more thing about recording riff ideas. If it sounds pretty good on a mono track you are doing something right.
If it sounds really good on a mono track it'll be a killer riff when you record it on the other channel. Pan them hard left and right. I suppose you knew that but maybe there is a n00b like me out there reading this!
If you record 4 tracks it often sound good if you don't play chords on every track but single notes on 2 tracks instead. Try it out. Sometimes it works miracles. It can also sound nice if record 2 tracks with very little distortion to get more bounce and attack.

I am working nightshift and I am bored tonight that's why this post got so damn long. Sorry. Hahaha.
Hopefully there is something useful to someone in "there".

Goodnight people!

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This post has been edited by Antipolitik: Apr 10 2008, 02:02 AM

[slash85]

cheers for the input champ......i have absolutley no idea about recording anything so all this is news to me .......with all the tweakings and the pannings and stuff i have no idea either......i just plug me guitar in an away i go so its gona take me a lot of time to understand all this....mate i can barely get the best sound out of me amp let alone anything else lol ...but ill look into anything pretty much it all helps in the long run

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[Bogdan Radovic]

Toneport ux1 and ux2 are for me best buy and most straightforward

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[Ivan Milenkovic]

I agree with Bogdan. If you use 2 mics and 2 guitars go for UX2 if you use 1 mic and one guitar go for UX1.

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[RIP Dime]

Guitarport + Rifftracker or Reaper is OK. I've noticed that with my computer the Guitarport doesn't cut it. It records with low latency but playback when i have 4-5 tracks starts to get messy, at 6 tracks my Sony ACID Pro has response times up to 30 seconds (Reaper is better, only 10 seconds...) - playback goes silent frequently as the Toneport gets too much to do. It's as if the toneport handles the recording while leaving the playback to the internal soundcard (and mine sucks)
When I plugged my POD X3 into the same computer it's flawless.

I was re-reading this thread because I'm going to buy some recording stuff friday, I had decided to get the toneport ux2 but then I read this comment that I missed when I looked the first time.

MickeM was this the GuitarPort that you had this problem with, or a Toneport? I'll probably be recording quite a few tracks is the reason I ask.
I have the money to buy the X3 but I don't really want to spend that much money if something cheaper will do.

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[kyldeee]

Korg Pandora It rules

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[Gerardo Siere]

I have a Zoom h4 and it is amazing, you can record with out a computer, or use it as a microfone (it becomes your sound card.), for recording in the pc, if you are not using vsti, try adobe audition 1.5, that thing wont take almost any ram at all and it works really fast, remember also to download asio drivers for better latency, google asioforall.

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[Guitar1969]

All of these are great but they are software/computer based. I am a techie, and while I have used them in the past(Traction, Cubase LE etc), last year I bought myself a stand alone digital recorder , Boss BR-600. There are some different models based upon your budget and needs, but it is so much simpler to use than a software based system, and more hands on rather than pointing and clicking on a computer. The one I got has built-in drums, built in models and effects(For Guitar, Bass, vocals).

It is so simple, that when I get a guitar idea, I just plug in my guitar into a normal 1/4" input and can lay down the track within seconds - really has opened up my creativity(Not a hassle to set up) when I have a song idea I want to develop later - It also has built-in condensor mics for vocals, and can run off batteries in one self contained unit. Also has more advanced features with adding mixers, external mics, and using software based systems if you want to go that route. The effects are awesomw - uses Rolands COSM modeling/effects processor that is used in the Cube amps, etc

Obviously they cost a bit more $200+, but if you are going to have to upgrade your computer equipment/ software to record anyways, you might find this all in one unit a better fit.

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[Ivan Milenkovic]

Nevertheless computer approach is far more flexible, and in don't need to be complicated at all. The thins that Boss device has is mobility, and all in one package. Peformances are on a low level for some semi-pro work, but then again the cost is lower than PC/DAW/VSTs/APS too.

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[Koopid]

oops, wrong post

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