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Posted by: SinoMan Mar 6 2008, 09:54 PM

Heya.

Normally, guitarists do this:

Now that's a little bit expensive, a little bit too loud and you also need a good environment to record in. Why not do this:



Would this work? It's MUCH cheaper and you won't ruin your ears/neighbors. Could ANYONE on Earth tell the difference between the two?

I'm just curious

Posted by: blindwillie Mar 6 2008, 10:10 PM

Wouldn't you lose alot of the characterteristics from the amp that way?
And where would you tap the signal?
Not trying to be a wise guy, I've been thinking about this too in away.
Trying to figure out how to use headphones on tube amps without headphone sockets.

Posted by: SinoMan Mar 6 2008, 10:15 PM

Isn't it the tube being pushed too hard that makes tube amps sound so good?

Posted by: Hisham Mar 6 2008, 10:44 PM

for me i use like that : guitar --> preamp tube built in gain drive --> delay--> sound card
thats the better way for my. also you can see my video lessons to know my sound how is look like.
have a nice day ....

Posted by: SinoMan Mar 6 2008, 10:51 PM

I don't know why so many people swear by tube amps. Most people don't live in a place where they can crank a 30W tube amp to 9.

Posted by: SinoMan Mar 6 2008, 10:55 PM

Man your playing is sick...

You're tone's nice, but I prefer more sustain and punch. Maybe try doing a power metal lesson with that setup?

Posted by: Trond Vold Mar 6 2008, 10:57 PM

Some preamps got direct mixer-outputs. I plug my preamp directly into the soundcard.

Guitar -> preamp (with fx-loop) -> soundcard

Posted by: g-forcelover Mar 6 2008, 11:00 PM

i have no idea about this stuff. my setup is this,

Guitar - Pedal - Amp.

usally its,

Guitar - Amp.

im very creative

Posted by: SinoMan Mar 6 2008, 11:01 PM

Could anyone on Earth tell the difference between the two? A tube preamp + direct box vs a tube amp?

Posted by: MickeM Mar 7 2008, 12:21 AM

you can have both preamp distortion and poweramp distortion, both sound good - just different

Posted by: MickeM Mar 7 2008, 12:32 AM

the DI box would simulate a speaker and level the signal. You can also box the sound from the poweramp yep no kidding, you need another box for that, still a speaker simulator through to the soundcard - and when you take the signal from the poweramp the cabinet can't be bypassed so the box patches the signal two ways
-> speakers
-> soundcard/mixer/PA

What you must do is to level the signal before it enteres the sound card. That's the box. A preamp could have a line level signal out already, then you can use it directly from there - no box.

If you mike your amp - would be done in a silent box with one entrance for the mike only - you get the actual sound from the amp + cabinet (or amp + speaker). But also the miking technique you'd use and the mike itself counts.


The sound is formed in the preamp though a poweramp adds it's tube charateristics, but you'd hear if it's a Marshall or Fender or ENGL preamp to name a few with different charateristics.

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Mar 7 2008, 11:00 AM

There is a big difference - there are no real speakers with only preamp setup

Posted by: Hisham Mar 7 2008, 11:15 PM

this setup only for solos but if you want a powermetall or rythem i prefare to line not a tube.