Hey GMCers,
I wanted to know how you can play for instance 8 notes in a row, I mean at pretty high speed, I've problem with this.
I can't play exactly 8 notes, I can't count and play at the same time ! I often play 6 notes or 7 or more than 8 etc...
Please don't tell me I should use a metronome because I still can't play with it (I really don't understand how to play with it !!)
Thanks a lot in advance
Hello,
You have to use the metronome. hehe But I can assure you that using metronome is actually very easy and may look intimidating at first if you don't know how.
Here is a lesson that will help you with using the metronome:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/how-to-use-a-metronome.htm
For 8th notes you need to play two notes per metronome click basically. You should start VERY slowly where you will be able to count the beats and notes and then gradually increase your speed.
The sooner you start working with the metronome - the better!
Start with quarter notes, make sure every note you play is exactly on the click.
Once you got that down, go along and try 8th notes, same way, then 16th, then triplets, then 16th triplets, then whatever you want
Just start at any desired speed, and make sure you play it cleanly. You don't have to start at 60 bpm quarter notes, you can just set the metronome at 200 bpm if that is your comfertable speed. Play a scale, and use AP/legato/economy picking and you'll be training 3 things at once and improving like a madman !
If you want to play really fast you don't have to count the notes. You will feel when it is right, but to get this feeling you have to practice with the metronome. There is no way to avoid it. If you suffer of metromphobia you can use a simple drum pattern. It makes practising a lot more fun
ok, thanks guys
I saw Kris's lesson about how to use a metronome.
I tried with his slow BPM tracks and I succeeded play quarter notes at 50, 60, 70 BPM, I found it easy I also tryed 8th notes with 50 BPM easy as well, I think my problem is at high speed so I'm gonna try 60 BPM with triplets notes :S
@djohn : I don't know any scale or pattern or whatever you call licks.. ^^' So I'm gonna do just 5-7 5-7 5-7 7-9 7-9 etc..
Thanks for advices
NB : Yeah I agree with you Skalde, drums are better for me I think
PS : Oh and I wanted to know how do you play a 8th with a dot hmm ? :/
8th with dots are harder. Dots mean the note duration get enlengthened by a half. So your 8th note gets a 16th added.
You could count them like 16th notes, and only strum a note every three counts.
1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4
The fat numbers represent the metronome beat, where the cursif(?) are where play the next note.
So the notes are played on 1, then on 4, then on 3, then on 2, and again on 1.
But I believe this to be very tricky stuff, and think you should start with 16th, then triplets, and 16th triplets.
Oh and I can give you a scalar pattern to practice ! Here's A minor pentatonic in first position, it's a basic scale beginner guitarist will learn quickly :
e|---------------------5-8-|
B|------------------5-8----|
G|--------------5-7--------|
D|----------5-7------------|
A|------5-7----------------|
E|--5-8--------------------|
what do you do if you have a chop with 11, 9, 7, or 5 notes?
@braer. It Depends.
To me, a lick consists of three elements (mostly). Melody, Harmony and Time.
The melody and harmony of the lick can be the same, but depending on the time the lick will differ.
If you have a lick with five notes you can play that in a lot of different ways.
Let's say we have C D E F G acsending as our lick that we're going to loop.
We can play all of them quarter notes, meaning that the first time we start on One, the second time the lick starts on Two, the third time the lick starts on Three, fourth time on Four, Fifth time on One.
We can do it like this with any duration, half notes, 8th notes, triplets etc.
We can play it with half note quintuplets meaning that we'll start on on the First beat of every bar.
We can play it quarter , quarter, triplet, triplet, triplet. Quarter, triplet triplet triplet Quarter. Basically any combo like that.
So it really really depends on how you phrase it.
Half note Quintuplets is hard to count because you have to play five notes in the same time as four.
I advise you not to try quintuplets and harder timing before you've nailed the basics. It's like building the roof on a non existing house.
hhmm, i am practising a malmsteen run atm, should i pratice it without metronome then?
yes, but its really hard to play fast with quarter notes, gotta play like 300bpm, ok maby not that fast...but you get my point
Metronome and/or drum beat is the way to go!
Brake down long run into shorter segments and work your way up. I would encourage you to use the licks you learn in your improvising to extend your vocabulary. Another great thing to do would be to edit those licks and create as much variety from them as possible.
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