The Led Piper Collab, FINAL MIX AND COMMENTS
Daniel Realpe
Aug 30 2010, 08:09 PM
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The Led Piper Collab


No. of participants: 8

Attached File  Final_Mix___led_piper.mp3 ( 7.43MB ) Number of downloads: 357


Here are some comments on your takes guys:

- Kaz: 0:00 – 0:39

Hi Kaz. I enjoyed your take. You sound very free to express yourself on the guitar. I loved the repeated patterns you did towards the end. Also, I loved the way you go out of the beat and come back. The tone you used fits perfectly, imo. The delay is perfectly applied. I would call this a genuine solo. Thanks for taking part!

- Marek: 0:39 – 1:16

Hi Marek. Glad to have you on board. The first thing I will mention is that you could improve the bends on the first phrase.
For this I think you need to pay good attention to the tuning, meaning, it’s a listening ability, not much a technical one, because later on the take you did good bends. You have to associate the pressure you put in a bend when it’s in tune and have your fingers memorize it.

I liked the intention you had when building phrases. The end really felt climatic. I also liked that you used a wide range in the guitar, using lower and high notes.

Careful with the noise at the end. Remove those clipping them and fading out in your software.
Thanks for taking part!

- K1R: 1:16 – 1:58



Hi K1R. The only one using a clean tone, nice! You could use a compressor to even up the notes so that all notes sound more even volume wise.
Nice that you moved higher on the neck and not just used the same range.

I would encourage you to use more harmonic material, meaning, play two strings sometimes, open strings, chords, and not just one string at a time. I say this because of your choice of using a clean tone. The use of many strings sometimes goes pretty good with clean tones.

I would say that you could hit the strings harder and maybe hit the same note many times in a row to add expression. In other words be more aggressive.

Thank you for sharing your take!

- Fireball: 1:58 – 2:36

Hi Fireball. You displayed good use of many techniques in your take, that’s a good risk that you took, nice!

Sounds aggressive! I would put a little more mids in your tone so it blends more with this backing.

I liked how you mixed that major phrase near the end, good stuff. I think you could work on constructing phrases very well put on the beat so that they are more clear, meaning, the listener obviously knows what’s going on. I know it may sound a little disappointing but trust me it’s a good advice. I took it once.

Thank you for taking part!

- Gitarrero: 2:36 – 3:16



Hi Gitarrero. First impression is: “old fashioned” which is great for this backing. I think you could use more vibrato, more aggressive vibratos. The harmony you did between guitar and keys at the end does give the take a nice musical touch.

I think your tone sounds good with the backing, it stands out and it’s clear.

That last note at the end, naked all by itself didn’t cut it for me, heheh.

Thanks for sharing your take!

- Jitty: 3:16 – 3:57

Hi Jitty. You have great dexterity in your fingers! I can tell. Ok, first thing is, use a cab emulation when recording. I can notice right away that your tone comes from connecting the guitar directly with no cab emulation. That really changes the tone a lot!

I like the thrills you did in this solo, reminds me a bit of Santana.

Nice descending 8th note pentatonic run, very rockfish (if that’s a word). I would’ve liked more vibrato maybe.

Thanks for taking part!

- MigeZ: 3:57 – 4:37

Hi MigeZ. I only have to say that it’s a great take! The tone sounds pleasant to me. The tappings are spot on and on time. I also heard some really tight vibratos in there that I really enjoyed.
I can tell that you improvised much of the take but it sounds confident and fluent so good job!

Maybe a good thing you could try is to use more jumps in the scales you use and not only consecutive steps like: 1-2-3-4-5-2-3-4-5-6….so on, but rather: 1-6-1-3-4-5-1-7-5-3-…for example

Thank you for participating!

- Daniel Realpe: 4:37 - ending

As you can see I added a video of my take.



This was my first take on it! And it was totally improvised. I used an effect that kind of emulates an octave higher all the time, I’m not sure what is it exactly but if anyone wants to know I’ll look into it.

I only used the Am scale and played it safe. I kind of experimented a bit on the rhythm part which gave it an interesting twist. I let some notes ring long because the tone pretty much sounds like a synth and that compensates so.

Thank you very much guys for sharing your takes! It was quite fun to listen to them all!

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Jitty
Aug 30 2010, 08:34 PM
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Hey Daniel, this was a great collab, really fun. I'm really new to recording though and I don't know what a cab emulation is. I'm using a POD, but I just got it and just started screwing around with it, so my tone isn't really so good right now. I'm not sure what you use but your tone is always great on your lessons, so any suggestions would be awesome.

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MigeZ
Aug 30 2010, 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the comment Daniel smile.gif You were right on the fact that it was pretty much improvised I just got an idea of what to do and did it well somehow biggrin.gif And the thing you said about the scale jumps is absolutely truth because one of my big cons is the lack of theory knowledge so I do not find it too easy to make up different shapes to shred with unsure.gif Have you got some ideas on lessons which would help me with scale boxes etc I know that there's some out there but I just want you to point me to a direction (link the lessons you think would be useful for me etc) smile.gif
Thanks for the great collab man and thanks for all who participated smile.gif

QUOTE (Jitty @ Aug 30 2010, 10:34 PM) *
Hey Daniel, this was a great collab, really fun. I'm really new to recording though and I don't know what a cab emulation is. I'm using a POD, but I just got it and just started screwing around with it, so my tone isn't really so good right now. I'm not sure what you use but your tone is always great on your lessons, so any suggestions would be awesome.

What pod are you using? Because I've got plenty of really good tones for Pod XT smile.gif If you need some tell me smile.gif First making tones will be a bit hard but like learning songs your learn it in time. For me it took over a year to make the sounds I'm using now biggrin.gif So just play around with it and eventually it's going to open up smile.gif

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Jitty
Aug 30 2010, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (MigeZ @ Aug 30 2010, 08:44 PM) *
Thanks for the comment Daniel smile.gif You were right on the fact that it was pretty much improvised I just got an idea of what to do and did it well somehow biggrin.gif And the thing you said about the scale jumps is absolutely truth because one of my big cons is the lack of theory knowledge so I do not find it too easy to make up different shapes to shred with unsure.gif Have you got some ideas on lessons which would help me with scale boxes etc I know that there's some out there but I just want you to point me to a direction (link the lessons you think would be useful for me etc) smile.gif
Thanks for the great collab man and thanks for all who participated smile.gif


What pod are you using? Because I've got plenty of really good tones for Pod XT smile.gif If you need some tell me smile.gif First making tones will be a bit hard but like learning songs your learn it in time. For me it took over a year to make the sounds I'm using now biggrin.gif So just play around with it and eventually it's going to open up smile.gif


I'm using a POD XT!! Any tones you could send me would be awesome, thanks a lot man.

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MigeZ
Aug 30 2010, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (Jitty @ Aug 30 2010, 11:50 PM) *
I'm using a POD XT!! Any tones you could send me would be awesome, thanks a lot man.

Sure just email me [email protected] and I'll send you them tomorrow smile.gif Tell me what kind of tones you want cuz I have over a hundred biggrin.gif

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Daniel Realpe
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QUOTE (MigeZ @ Aug 30 2010, 09:44 PM) *
Thanks for the comment Daniel smile.gif You were right on the fact that it was pretty much improvised I just got an idea of what to do and did it well somehow biggrin.gif And the thing you said about the scale jumps is absolutely truth because one of my big cons is the lack of theory knowledge so I do not find it too easy to make up different shapes to shred with unsure.gif Have you got some ideas on lessons which would help me with scale boxes etc I know that there's some out there but I just want you to point me to a direction (link the lessons you think would be useful for me etc) smile.gif
Thanks for the great collab man and thanks for all who participated smile.gif


What pod are you using? Because I've got plenty of really good tones for Pod XT smile.gif If you need some tell me smile.gif First making tones will be a bit hard but like learning songs your learn it in time. For me it took over a year to make the sounds I'm using now biggrin.gif So just play around with it and eventually it's going to open up smile.gif

This lesson just popped up when typing melodic, and I think it's a great example to jumps inside a melody, eventhough it has some neighboring tones as well:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...r-melodic-solo/

You don't have to be an expert on theory. If you know one scale, with that one alone you can create beautiful melodies, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT WITH ONLY NEIGHBORING TONES, You need to do jumps, as in that lesson...


QUOTE (Jitty @ Aug 30 2010, 08:34 PM) *
Hey Daniel, this was a great collab, really fun. I'm really new to recording though and I don't know what a cab emulation is. I'm using a POD, but I just got it and just started screwing around with it, so my tone isn't really so good right now. I'm not sure what you use but your tone is always great on your lessons, so any suggestions would be awesome.

well, cab emulation is one of the great things about the PODs,

you can emulate an amplifier and also it's cab, or another,

Look into the manual how to activate that feature (you will notice inmediately the difference), and also check your levels when recording, that might have to do with it too. When you arm a track to record your guitar in your DAW, make sure the levels are a little above half way, but not popping in red all the time, and not below half way either,



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MigeZ
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Thanks Daniel I'll practice that lesson today smile.gif Ok your right on that biggrin.gif Thanks for the link smile.gif

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Thanks for the feeback, Daniel! I agree about having phrases make sense. It's much more pleasant that way. smile.gif
I'll work on that as well. Glad you enjoyed! I was surely risking it...I always push my playing skill on these collabs. biggrin.gif

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Daniel Realpe
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Aug 31 2010, 11:19 PM) *
...I always push my playing skill on these collabs. biggrin.gif

that's a great thing,

I've come to realize that's the only way for music to come out really crisp and easily communicative...it takes an extra effort, I don't believe in magic muses

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