GMC Forum _ Ben Higgins _ 30 Shredders In One Solo Practice
Posted by: Opetholic Dec 11 2012, 09:36 PM
Hey Ben,
I decided to create a post here with the following idea (if you don't like it please delete the thread) : We can come to this thread and submit our takes at different tempos for different segments of your latest amazing lesson on 30 shredders. As I did below, we can write in bold which segment we will post and at what tempo and then we can post our progress and you can maybe have a look and comment
So here I go:
Segment 25: Paul Gilbert at 115 BPM
I decided to start this off at 115bpm, I will hopefully coming week try to upload as I increase my speed and finally (hopefully) I will reach 125bpm soon. I chose this one to start with because it is AP + string skipping, my favorite techniques
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 12 2012, 10:23 AM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 11 2012, 08:36 PM)
Hey Ben,
I decided to create a post here with the following idea (if you don't like it please delete the thread) : We can come to this thread and submit our takes at different tempos for different segments of your latest amazing lesson on 30 shredders. As I did below, we can write in bold which segment we will post and at what tempo and then we can post our progress and you can maybe have a look and comment
So here I go:
Segment 25: Paul Gilbert at 115 BPM
I decided to start this off at 115bpm, I will hopefully coming week try to upload as I increase my speed and finally (hopefully) I will reach 125bpm soon. I chose this one to start with because it is AP + string skipping, my favorite techniques
Hi Mert, great idea !! I love it
Ok, this might help clear up some confusion about bpm tempos. The backing for 30 shredders goes through several changes of tempo but I can only give one name to the backing track. So it starts at 125 and stays there for quite a while but by the time we reach Paul Gilbert' section, we're speeding along at 190bpm, 16th notes.
So a better way to practise this lick is to treat it as straight 16th notes like I do in the track, so maybe chuck the metro at about 120, 130, 140 and see how it sounds that way
Posted by: Opetholic Dec 12 2012, 08:39 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Dec 12 2012, 10:23 AM)
Hi Mert, great idea !! I love it
Ok, this might help clear up some confusion about bpm tempos. The backing for 30 shredders goes through several changes of tempo but I can only give one name to the backing track. So it starts at 125 and stays there for quite a while but by the time we reach Paul Gilbert' section, we're speeding along at 190bpm, 16th notes.
So a better way to practise this lick is to treat it as straight 16th notes like I do in the track, so maybe chuck the metro at about 120, 130, 140 and see how it sounds that way
Thanks Ben I am happy you like the idea. Also thanks for the explanation about the bpm tempos. But according to my calculations playing 16th notes at 190bpm is almost equivalent to (actually slightly slower than) playing sextuplets at 125bpm. So I am happy practicing it this way also
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 12 2012, 10:38 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 12 2012, 07:39 PM)
Thanks Ben I am happy you like the idea. Also thanks for the explanation about the bpm tempos. But according to my calculations playing 16th notes at 190bpm is almost equivalent to (actually slightly slower than) playing sextuplets at 125bpm. So I am happy practicing it this way also
Ah cool !! Same result then
Posted by: Opetholic Dec 23 2012, 03:10 PM
Ok here is P. Gilbert section at full speed (which I do at 125 bpm with 16th note sextuplets rather than at 190 bpm with 16th notes)
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 23 2012, 06:11 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 23 2012, 02:10 PM)
Ok here is P. Gilbert section at full speed (which I do at 125 bpm with 16th note sextuplets rather than at 190 bpm with 16th notes)
Wow, some super fast playing there, M ! Great picking action and finger shifting.
I was just about to write something about the last part not sounding right but then I decided to pick up the guitar to see how the lick is placed when played in a triplet fashion.. and you've got it just right - well done !!!
What's next ???
Posted by: Opetholic Dec 23 2012, 06:29 PM
Thanks Ben I will keep keep on practicing this until it is comfortable at this tempo.. Otherwise, what is next ? Ummm I can't chose all the licks are just awesome. What do you suggest ??
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 23 2012, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 23 2012, 05:29 PM)
Thanks Ben I will keep keep on practicing this until it is comfortable at this tempo.. Otherwise, what is next ? Ummm I can't chose all the licks are just awesome. What do you suggest ??
Well, you've been doing a lot of picking lately so how about something with more bends and such... Michael Schenker of Friedman solos !
Posted by: Opetholic Dec 24 2012, 10:50 AM
They both sound great Ben I will try to learn them both.. Could you maybe tell us what the tempo is for these segments of the lesson ??
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 24 2012, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 24 2012, 09:50 AM)
They both sound great Ben I will try to learn them both.. Could you maybe tell us what the tempo is for these segments of the lesson ??
Yeah sure.. Schenker is 145bpm and Marty is 100bpm
Posted by: Opetholic Dec 24 2012, 03:41 PM
Segment 19: M. Friedman at full speed
Here is my first attempt
Can you tell I am not good at bends ?
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 24 2012, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (Opetholic @ Dec 24 2012, 02:41 PM)
Segment 19: M. Friedman at full speed
Here is my first attempt
Can you tell I am not good at bends ?
Good, this is what you need my friend !!!
Posted by: Dieterle Dec 29 2012, 11:16 PM
Hey Ben and Opetholic i would like to be in thisthread too !
I start with the first part of this Hammer Lesson and of course in a slow... speed what fits a bit to me
OK ?
1. record will follow soon then
Dieter
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 30 2012, 10:21 AM
QUOTE (Dieterle @ Dec 29 2012, 10:16 PM)
Hey Ben and Opetholic i would like to be in thisthread too !
I start with the first part of this Hammer Lesson and of course in a slow... speed what fits a bit to me
OK ?
1. record will follow soon then
Dieter
Yes Dieter, of course you're welcome !!
Posted by: Dieterle Jan 2 2013, 07:16 PM
OK Ben and Friends !
Her my first record of the 1. Lick of Bens 30. Licks
Beginner Level speed could be around 80 !?
i exercise this one now every day about 30 minutes and next record in about a week .
hope its ok for ya
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jan 2 2013, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Dieterle @ Jan 2 2013, 06:16 PM)
OK Ben and Friends !
Her my first record of the 1. Lick of Bens 30. Licks
Beginner Level speed could be around 80 !?
i exercise this one now every day about 30 minutes and next record in about a week .
hope its ok for ya
Guten Abend Dieter !!
Nice to see you diving in to the deep end ! In truth, I think these phrases might be a bit too much of a leap to make at the moment !
The Yngwie lick uses economy picking and the Phrygian Major mode shapes might be a bit distracting. Maybe the Randy Rhoads solo might be a good one to start with because everything is more neat and tidy with the beat
Good effort though ! Remember to try to let your fingers make the stretches rather than moving your whole hand with each finger, if that makes sense ?
Posted by: Dieterle Jan 2 2013, 08:54 PM
QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jan 2 2013, 08:33 PM)
Guten Abend Dieter !!
Nice to see you diving in to the deep end ! In truth, I think these phrases might be a bit too much of a leap to make at the moment !
The Yngwie lick uses economy picking and the Phrygian Major mode shapes might be a bit distracting. Maybe the Randy Rhoads solo might be a good one to start with because everything is more neat and tidy with the beat
Good effort though ! Remember to try to let your fingers make the stretches rather than moving your whole hand with each finger, if that makes sense ?
Hey Ben !
Every thing you tell me makes sense !
Lick 1 i keep on going anyway even i did know its to high vision right now but a good exercise !
Randy Rhoads yes !
I gonna take it in my daily program and so each week a record Lick 1 and 4 is it OK !?
Thank you Ben for Statement !
Dieter
Posted by: Ben Higgins Jan 2 2013, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (Dieterle @ Jan 2 2013, 07:54 PM)
I gonna take it in my daily program and so each week a record Lick 1 and 4 is it OK !?
Thank you Ben for Statement !
Dieter
Dieter of course it's ok, you upload as much as you want
Posted by: osiris Jan 21 2013, 12:36 PM
Oh, never made the connection between GMC and this video before. It's all kinds of awesome!