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Windows Vista/7 Install Fails
Darfuria
Jun 19 2009, 05:30 PM
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I've now also run a chkdsk, just in case that resolved the issue - which, surprise surprise, it didn't.

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Jun 19 2009, 06:00 PM
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*cough**cough* buy a mac *cough**cough*

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Darfuria
Jun 19 2009, 06:27 PM
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Oh, I wish...

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Ivan Milenkovic
Jun 19 2009, 06:58 PM
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have you tried different power unit? I suspect power issue or mboard issue here...

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Darfuria
Jun 19 2009, 07:35 PM
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Not yet. I sort of want to rule out any easy/cheap options before I go spending lots of money on new PSUs and motherboards. Running out of options though.

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Ivan Milenkovic
Jun 19 2009, 10:23 PM
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Can't you just borrow PSU from some friend/family/other PC?

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Darfuria
Jun 19 2009, 10:53 PM
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Not easily, I'm afraid sad.gif

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I would suggest (if you have a backup elsewhere), formatting the entire hard drive and deleting all partitions including the 100MB reserve one that Win7 created on install.

Clean install a copy of Win7 (from elsewhere and another drive if possible - borrow or another computer that's working) - could be your DVD burner or reader is stuffed causing errors. I believe it will probably be just that!

Once installed (leave the backup off it) just check the stability of it without anything else affecting (this would prove is it hardware or software). Make sure no crashes, etc.

Update your OS and hardware fully including the bios (some bios have a fit with the newer Microsoft OS like Vista and some hardware compatibly unless updated), sound card, graphic cards (get updates from Nvidia), etc. Again wait a bit and check nothing freaked out.

Install a clean Virus Scanner and Firewall. Only then copy over the backup data and try re-download applications rather then installing from backup. (newer version, plus the backup maybe corrupted or infected)

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Darfuria
Jun 22 2009, 07:19 PM
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It's unbelievable how difficult it is to get a decent copy of Windows 7 to my computer.

I'm unable to download it on my laptop. The download manager stops at 99%, regardless of restarting the download and leaving it for days.

No problem, I thought. I'll just burn the ISO I downloaded at work (which works at work) and transfer it across at home. So, I burnt it at 1x, and lo behold, copying it to my HDD, cycle redundancy error. Joys.

I'll try copying it to some mass storage device next, but this is unbelieavable.

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Sounds like a real pain.

Cycle redundancy errors suggests that there might have a problem with the cd drive. Any chance that you can get some one else to burn the ISO for you and try that?

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The ISO was burnt on my work machine - and I'm fairly confident that there is nothing wrong with that, given the amount of data I burn to disk. It's just when I got the disk home.

I suppose it could continue to point to a motherboard issue though. DVD drive is practically brand new, as it was one of the cheap components I could replace. Before replacing it, running live disks was very unstable, but now I'm able to run them with no issues.

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Jun 22 2009, 07:56 PM
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The cycle redundancy error may not be due to a bad burn though but with your home pc not doing the check sum properly. Could be caused by something as simple as a dirty lens in the drive or, as you say something a bit more fundamental...

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I'm just ripping the ISO from the disk from my girlfriend's laptop, to see if that works.

I'm so tempted to grab myself an Asus board and run a hackintosh...

Edit - disk read failed on my girlfriend's laptop too... enlightening, but not at the same time...

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Sometimes a new pc is the best way to go. Now may be a good time with the i7s around so the prices of the previous generation intels have all dropped like a stone smile.gif . Or get a nice new i7 and lots of ram ready for Win 7 on 64 bit wink.gif .

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Darfuria
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Don't have a huge amount of cash to splurge really. If I did, I'd just get a Mac and be done with it wink.gif

If I do buy anything new, I expect I'll build a hackintosh and use the XP license on this to build a WAMP/file server - as the XP installation functions fine. Not really sure why I'm even bothered about updating the OS, I like XP. I think it's more the fact that I know there is a problem, and I want to resolve it.

Just dumped my older Windows 7 install onto an external HDD and set it as an active partition, went through the NTLDR boot issues and got it to boot, only to have some .dll errors. Blah

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Darfuria
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Well I finally fixed the issue, which is a massive relief!

I realised there was still something I hadn't tried. I knew I could install Vista without any problems - the problems only occurred when I tried rebooting. So I installed Vista and tried to upgrade to Windows 7 without rebooting. Alas, the installation failed, but I persisted. I decided to install service pack 1, all of the important updates, and some drivers, just to reduce the change of software failure.

Unfortunately things like drivers and Windows Update require an abundant amount of restarts. I must have cold-booted my machine a good 70 times, cycling between Start Windows Normally, Safe Mode and Last Known Good Configuration. Alas my plan was defeated by Windows Update getting stuck in a loop of disregarding the applied updates and rolling the system back. So back to XP once again.

However, during all of this I had my trusty netbook beside me, and managed to find a 3rd party application on the MSI forums, which not only formats a Flash drive to be booted, but detects your system board and downloads the latest BIOS for you. I was a bit wary at first, but the application had a lot of good feedback, so, what the hell, I went for it.

I managed to format the Flash drive and download the latest version of the BIOS through this application perfectly. I then cleared the CMOS and managed to flash the BIOS first time. I cleared the CMOS once again and rebooted. Set the BIOS to fail-safe defaults and ensured that drive 0 was plugged into SATA port 1 on the motherboard. I then booted the Windows 7 DVD that I burnt at a ridiculously slow speed and ran through the installer, and lo behold! The installation completed successfully first time!

It was about 2am when I finished doing this, so I'm not sure if I tried rebooting the machine, but I'm fairly confident...

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