QUOTE (Nemanja Filipovic @ Aug 24 2008, 03:21 PM)
Wow,topic goes big.
Lian has mentioned Zietgeist,I totally agree with every thing in this movie and with every thing mister George Carlin sad at the beginning in the same one.
I think that there is a lot of touchy issues here,but I do also think that Russia is saying,ok America you bully the whole world but not us.It is there wright to say any thing they want,just like America say and do every thing they want.Question is,who give you the wright to deside other peoples faith and to invade every country you want(based on bad inteligence).
Point is we cant change a thing a bout it.:)IMO
Thats not why the US invaded. Read through the long list of UN resolutions that Sadam Ignored. The UN again did nothing....US had to because no one else ever steps up.
QUOTE (kahall @ Aug 25 2008, 01:51 AM)
Yeah, thanks. It makes it so easy for me.
Lets get started.
The only way people will think of him more favorably is if McCain gets elected and invades Iran.
Anyone who has paid attention to what Iranian President Ahmadinejad is saying knows this has to be considered. He's calling for the destruction of America and all democracy. That seems kind of important to me.
-Elected in a disputed election:
Al Gore tried his damnedest to steal the election in 2000 and failed, and some still claim that Bush not only tried to, but did. Gore failed because the Supreme Court finally stepped in to put a halt to Al Gore's shenanigans, and some lament a supposed "activism" on the part of the Supreme Court that they've spent the last thirty years applauding. The SC is only correct when it agrees with your side is not how it works here.
-Patriot act shreds the constitution:
It does no such thing and you can repeat it from now until John McCain is in office and it is still not going to be true. If we had the patriot act in place before 9/11 we may have just anticipated it. No one is interested in investigating someone who's doing something that's appropriate. They don't have time for that and is just plain nonsense. We know for sure there are cells in the United States that are ready to erupt. We know that Hezbollah is here; we know there are cells from different terrorist organizations that are here and operational and that there are others waiting too. This is serious business. Just because we don't have a continuous attack on our shores, does not mean we are now living in lolly pop candy land.
-Iraq, brought the country to war on forged intelligence and flat out lies (should of impeached him right here):
Everyone including those in Congress who voted to go to war had the same intelligence. If you are going to fire (impeach) GW then the rest must go to, but I'm sure you're fine with that since you did not vote for any of them and they do not represent you. Besides all that, the Iraqis had only been shooting at our pilots (who were there at the request of the UN, a useless organization) for ten f'n years before the US finally brought it to a halt and literally dug him out of his hole. And there is the minor detail of 50 million oppressed Muslims who are now free.
-No bid contracts in Iraq, Halliburton, Blackwater mercenaries that are above the law.
No proof of any of this. If there was someone would already be impeached, in jail or at least fined heavily and you know it. Next->
-The Military Commissions Act.
It provides legal protections that ensure our military and intelligence personnel will not have to fear lawsuits filed by terrorists simply for doing their jobs. I say AWESOMe and you would to if you were in the military, had family in the military or if you weren't clueless.
-Hurricane Katrina: Yeah it is weird that there has never been a hurricane in Crawford Texas. Good grief, he caused the hurricane? Really? If you believe that, I have pics for sale of the boat used by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby when they blew up the levees in New Orleans. If you are referring to how fast we reacted you are misinformed. Our troops and volunteers were there within 24 hours, but no one expected a disaster this massive would occur. If they did then the LA government officials would have done a mandatory evacuation instead of just suggesting it. I was a mess, but how you can blame one man, GW is just silly. People do still have to look out for themselves and not rely on the government to get themselves out of every single situation. We rescued thousands and mistakenly passed out money like it was bubblegum but other than that we all did the best we could.
-Warrant less wire tapping by NSA:
The War on Terror is real. See my answer to your ridiculous patriot act shreds the constitution hot air.
-Offers retroactive immunity to telecoms that spy on their customers.
The War on Terror is real. And this was not decided by GW, but in a court of law. We have those here.
-Turned a surplus into a MASSIVE deficit:
It cost a lot of money to kill those who try to kill us. And it is not massive. We can pay that off in a heart beat without raising taxes and no one here really cares about this issue. It is only brought up to add to baseless BS lists like yours of all the evil GWB has done.
- Attempted to stop the 9/11 commission:
I have no idea if this is true or not, but there was no need for a commission. 19 radical Islamic MF'n terrorist flew 3 planes into buildings and another was forced into the ground by passengers in the U. S. killing thousands of innocent people from all over the world. (Remember that?) It's pretty obvious the commission was a waste of time and money. Or are you one of those idiot douchbags that think it was an inside job?
-The whole preventive war doctrine (invade a country before it has a chance to do something wrong)
Yep, that's the way we roll in the USA. Thank God for the US military and our leaders. Over half of the world's people would be under some dictator's thumb if it weren't for our policies.
-His whole war on science and logic (evolution, stem cells, global warming) war on science?
The schools here still teach evolution as fact and they will as long as I and others like me have anything to say about it. Global warming is a hoax and many are getting filthy rich claiming that it is real. Stem cell research is being done like crazy by private enterprise here (again in the US) and having success. There is no war on science here. Where in the hell did you get that?
-Staffing Women's Health position with religious conservatives, attacks abortion and types of birth control: That is his right to do with any appointed position just as it was Bill Clinton's, George Bush Sr, Ronald Reagan and all of the other 40 ish presidents before him. Geez, do you even know how the Presidency works here? Oh and search for abortions in any US yellow pages and you will see that there are plenty of places to get one if you need it, pages and pages, which is fine with most of us here in the US. Just don't make us help pay for it. We weren't invited when you got in the mess and we do want to be invited now.
-The massacre at Haditha and its conver up:
Everyone one of the individuals involved has been acquitted by jury. And if you want to talk about impeachment of anyone it should be of those who spoke as if our soldiers murdered innocents before there was even one shred of evidence, as in Barrack's VP choice Joe Biden as well as Senator Murtha. War is not pretty but these 2 men are the disgrace not George Bush or our brave men and woman fighting for my freedoms.
-Collapse of the housing market:
This is capitalism at its best, besides I always like it when the price of things go down. The only time anyone ever complains about falling prices is when it is the value of their home. It's a great time to buy, not so great to sell but it will come back around like it always does. FYI, I own my home and this does affect me.
-Karl Rove, nuff said:
He is a magnificent bastard. If I was running for any elected office I would make sure he was on my side. I love him. You and your like can continue to complain about him and that is just fine, he is now out active politics and has nothing to do with any policy making procedures. He's on Fox News, the number one cable news network almost everyday. I suggest you tune in if you miss him.
-"Lost" white house emails.
They said they lost them during an upgrade if my memory is correct. Lord knows that could never happen. Big deal! IT is my profession and while this should not have happened, the fact that they say it did does not make it a lie.
- Telling Fox News what to report:
How old are you anyway? You and others say this only because they are fair and balanced. Even Hillary Clinton said so.
As an added bonus: In the meantime there have been no - repeat, no, zip, zero, nada - successful attacks on US soil since 9/11, and we both know that it is not because of the fine job Clinton did in scaring them off. We free 50 million — (that's 50 with six zeros behind it) oppressed Muslims and the only thing some people notice is a handful of prisoners with panties on their heads and a load of illegal combatants in Gitmo getting fat and sloppy from their 'inhuman' bondage. And like it or not there are millions and millions and millions of people who think and agree with me just as much as those who are as clueless as you are. George Bush has been the greatest president since Ronald Reagan. Get over it already and in case you missed it, he can't run again.
And one more thing, no one I know, and I know a lot of people of a lot of different political persuasion give a rat's ass what people in other countries think of the US, our citizens or our elected officials. This is another non issue made up by the likes of MSNBC and other networks that are in the TANK for BO.
Yes I love my country and I am very patriotic in case you did not gather that from my post. You all should be as well.
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Hurricane Katrina: Yeah it is weird that there has never been a hurricane in Crawford Texas. Good grief, he caused the hurricane? Really? If you believe that, I have pics for sale of the boat used by Karl Rove and Scooter Libby when they blew up the levees in New Orleans. If you are referring to how fast we reacted you are misinformed. Our troops and volunteers were there within 24 hours, but no one expected a disaster this massive would occur. If they did then the LA government officials would have done a mandatory evacuation instead of just suggesting it. I was a mess, but how you can blame one man, GW is just silly. People do still have to look out for themselves and not rely on the government to get themselves out of every single situation. We rescued thousands and mistakenly passed out money like it was bubblegum but other than that we all did the best we could.
It wasn't GWB that caused Katrina, Dick Cheney found the keys to George's EVIL weather machine. Excuse me whilst I locate my foil hat....lol
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This post has been edited by USAMAN: Aug 25 2008, 04:12 AM
Many people find it interesting though 
I agree with that, I have the same feeling about it. but, how many peace people has to die till then? Lennon, Ghandi, Kennedy, M.L.King just to name a few. 
