Question On Scales?
shellshock1911
Nov 5 2007, 05:57 AM
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Ok lets say you wanted to play a solo in D minor.

Would it OK to start in D natural minor for example, then switch to D Harmonic Minor, then to D pentatonic minor, then back to natural...or something like that? Basically changing scales but staying in same key?

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Pavel
Nov 5 2007, 06:03 AM
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It would be better to stay in 7-notes scales (natural and harmonic minor) as putting in pentatonic scale would immediately break the whole feel and style of the solo - usually results in a mess of notes without any connection.

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QUOTE (Pavel @ Nov 5 2007, 06:03 AM) *
It would be better to stay in 7-notes scales (natural and harmonic minor) as putting in pentatonic scale would immediately break the whole feel and style of the solo - usually results in a mess of notes without any connection.


Gotcha. So like if you were to switch from like natural minor to the modes of the major scale which are also minor (I forget which ones), that would be OK?

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Pavel
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Minor scale is a mode of a major scale itself so i think it should be fine. David and Andrew are our top modes masters so now i'll let them help you out with modes.

I never rely on theory in my playing - only on my ear and sounding of what i play, so -> theory board, your help is needed! laugh.gif wink.gif

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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Nov 5 2007, 12:06 AM) *
Gotcha. So like if you were to switch from like natural minor to the modes of the major scale which are also minor (I forget which ones), that would be OK?


Fine as long as the underlying chord structure doesn't conflict with the notes in the scale you are using at that time ...

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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Nov 5 2007, 06:10 AM) *
Fine as long as the underlying chord structure doesn't conflict with the notes in the scale you are using at that time ...


+1 once more cool.gif

And feel free to use Dm pentatonic.
From your post I see you're at beginner stage and pentatonic is fine way for you,
along with natural minor of course.

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A little care is needed when awitching between modes though, again, it comes down to the chord progression - if you start on a D as the root you could use Dorian Aeolian or Phrygian for instance, and that would work fine. But if the next chord is Eminor, of the three modes, Dorian is the only one that has Em in its litst of characteristic chords. At that stage, if you were playing Aeolian or Phrygian it would sound wrong and a little dischordant, so be careful with modes. There is less of a problem swapping from D minor (aeolian) to harmonic minor, as there is only one note different, which is a close fit and Minor Pentatonic is 100% compatible with Minor as the minor pentatonic is just a minor with some missing notes.

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