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Oct 28 2021, 10:27 PM
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Do chord progressions have to follow numerical order? I'm working on a piece of music and I'm liking I v iv instead of I iv v it's this okay?
Also, what would this be called? Is it some kind of mode?cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 29 2021, 09:08 AM
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Thanks folks
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Oct 29 2021, 02:07 PM
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Well said guys!
I know that you started with this one Phil, but there you can find easy ways to build chord progressions in both minor and major keys, and other very useful composing tricks. The last lesson covers the most used chord progressions. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lessonser...ing-Essentials/ -------------------- My lessons
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Oct 29 2021, 06:43 PM
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Thanks Ben and Gab,
Yeah Gab I did make a start then life got a bit awkward as you know and I went off track then my Spotify thing happened so I'm in a bit of chaos at the moment  One further question, Ben said "If you had a progression in the key of A minor, maybe going A minor to D minor to C major you would write that as: i-iv-III. Notice how the roman numbers change to accomodate the minor tonality, but it shows that "home" is the i-chord - the A minor, that is.". Does the I(i) - chord have to be the key signature chord? Thanks This post has been edited by Phil66: Oct 29 2021, 06:43 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 29 2021, 07:20 PM
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From my experience the I-chord, or i-chord if minor, is usually the tonality (key), but I think the overall goal is to find a notation that shows you how to play a piece the best possible way.
 Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numeral_analysis#Modes I do remember some of Muris' lessons about modes having a different kinda notation: The mixolydian lesson was in A mixolydian, however the key signature was notated as A major, however A mixolydian comes from the D major tonality. I think the reason behind this was to indicate the b7-note in the sheet/notation. This means that whenever you see the G note (b7 in A mixolydian) it has a natural sign in front of it - "♮", meaning it's a G as found in A Mixolydian, and not the G# found A major. The key signature could probably also have been chosen as D major, but that can cause some confusion on describing the mode. I've seen tab books get around this by writing i.e. "A mixolydian" above the very first key signature sign, which might have been "D major". As said, Muris did it a little different, indicating that we're in some kinda A-mode, but letting the natural sign in the notation show that it's mixolydian. Similarly in his Lydian lessons the key says "E major", but the sheet shows the #4-note (A#), which is not found in E major. I think the general purpose of notating is to deliver as clear a message as you can to those who are playing your piece, whether that's yourself in 5 months or someone else. This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Oct 29 2021, 07:21 PM |
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Oct 29 2021, 07:59 PM
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Thanks Ben,
Not sure if I explained what I meant but if I'm playing in the key of Am, does the I(i) chord have to be Am? Is v i iv okay? In fact do I even have to play Am anywhere in the progression? Thanks -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 29 2021, 08:45 PM
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Thanks Ben,
I realise I worded my question incorrectly but you got what I meant, I was meaning I(i) to be the 1st chord but then I wrote it down all wrong. Thanks, I am now liberated
This post has been edited by Phil66: Oct 29 2021, 10:26 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 29 2021, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Oct 29 2021, 09:27 PM)  Honestly, in this part of your creative process, or from what I've heard/read/seen, I'd just focus on doing what you think sounds good and less about what "rules" there are. In my opinion it should be fun to compose music, not like a boxed in thing of feeling like you HAVE to use a certain progression, certain chords and so on. Of course there's merit to knowing these theoretical aspects of describing what you write, but don't box yourself in or limit your creative thinking. If you want to have a chord that uses all 12 notes, go for it! I think the key is to do it purposefully and with intent (which can come in many forms and shapes). Thanks Ben I understand what you say. If you read Gab's comment here https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=711280 from this thread https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...t=0&start=0 and Gab says pretty much the same. Thanks for your help Ben, much appreciated. On another note, after I've created my next one for my Serenity Dimension project https://open.spotify.com/album/27YX8maOWsTa...ource=copy-link would you like to collaborate with me? 50/50 split on any, if any payments? Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Oct 31 2021, 09:46 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 29 2021, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 29 2021, 10:56 PM) Thanks Ben I understand what you say. If you read Gab's comment here https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=711280 from this thread https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...t=0&start=0 and Gab says pretty much the same. Thanks for your help Ben, much appreciated. On another note, after I've created me next one for my Serenity Dimension project https://open.spotify.com/album/27YX8maOWsTa...ource=copy-link would you like to collaborate with me? 50/50 split on any, if any payments? Cheers Gab is wise, so no surprise there!  And of course I'll collaborate... on one condition, which is that you keep the payments 100%, if there is any  Unless it goes viral and gets you 2 million GBP, in which case I'll take this: https://reverb.com/item/40476561-ibanez-r94...r-6-string-case ... but you keep the rest |
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Oct 29 2021, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Oct 29 2021, 10:04 PM) Gab is wise, so no surprise there! And of course I'll collaborate... on one condition, which is that you keep the payments 100%, if there is any Unless it goes viral and gets you 2 million GBP, in which case I'll take this: https://reverb.com/item/40476561-ibanez-r94...r-6-string-case ... but you keep the rest Well you can have that and 50% because it would be your musical skills that would generate sales, not mine 
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 30 2021, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 30 2021, 08:48 PM) I have to agree with Gabe and Ben. it really does come down to your ears and what you think sounds good much more so than the actual theory behind it. You can play pretty much anything as long as it sounds good. Even if it's not correct in terms of music theory. I liked your latest song and hope to see it expanded a bit. I think you and ben can come up with some really cool. so far, i don't think it's much beyond the one chord so choosing a second chord to modulate too would be step one. Most music is just a few chords. You can cover a lot of ground on just G, C, D, A and E chords of just about any type.Thanks Todd, As said, that piece "End Of Day" ("Lonely Desolation") was pulled from a Creativity Workshop and not, per se , created for relaxation, I used it as a springboard into Spotify. I'd like to do an expanded version one day so maybe Ben and I could work on that
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