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GMC Forum _ PRACTICE ROOM _ How Fast Can You Play This ?
Posted by: Opetholic May 19 2013, 10:34 AM
If you are interested, have a go at the following (always alternate picking). I would be interested to know how fast (in bpm) you can play it..
E---------------------------------------------|
B---------------------------------------------|
G---7-----10------9-----7------9-----10------|
D-----7-------7------7-----7------7------7---|
A---------------------------------------------|
E---------------------------------------------|
repeat the bar as many times as possible. (notes are all quarter notes and start with a down stroke)
Posted by: jstcrsn May 19 2013, 12:02 PM
E---------------------------------------------|
B---------------------------------------------|
G---7-----10------9-----7------9-----10------|
D-----7-------7------7-----7------7------7---|
A---------------------------------------------|
E---------------------------------------------|
repeat the bar as many times as possible. (notes are all quarter notes and start with a down stroke)
starting with a downstroke- then its inside picking ?
Posted by: Opetholic May 19 2013, 12:07 PM
yes inside picking... i was asking you guys to give a comment on how fast you can play cause i am not able to play it so fast.
Posted by: jstcrsn May 19 2013, 01:56 PM
ya , give me a day to work with it and I will give it a try
the reason I asked is that out side picking at about 11o is my limit , while inside I can sometimes do some damage
Posted by: PosterBoy May 19 2013, 04:52 PM
Starting with a downstroke is outside picking
Posted by: HungryForHeaven May 19 2013, 05:58 PM
No.
Posted by: AK Rich May 19 2013, 06:24 PM
Kinda reminds me of this riff at 35 seconds in.
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 19 2013, 08:12 PM
Quarter Notes? You mean 1 note per beat?
Posted by: Opetholic May 19 2013, 08:14 PM
ummm sorry
I mean eight notes 
2 notes per beat.. but doesn't really matter, you can do one note per beat but then I expect you to go to high bpms
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 20 2013, 07:42 AM
I can play it fast using chicken picking
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 08:00 AM
Neeee
haha that can I also How about just AP ?
Posted by: maharzan May 20 2013, 08:37 AM
I just did a 120. might be able to push to 130.
I just did a 120. might be able to push to 130.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 20 2013, 08:42 AM
Dunno man, I'll try it and see
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 09:00 AM
I just did a 120. might be able to push to 130.
Video video video
Posted by: maharzan May 20 2013, 09:36 AM
haha.. no video.. 
shhhh.... What speed are you looking for?
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 09:40 AM
shhhh.... What speed are you looking for?Doesn't matter really. I want to see how different players pick this kind of motion.. I have seen Petrucci do this kind of motion at speeds towards 200 bpm. Really impressive..
Posted by: maharzan May 20 2013, 10:26 AM
Aite, just did a quick iPhone vid. Hope you can see what you want to see.
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 10:38 AM
Hey cool video Chandra. Like the mustache
Yea your picking is nice, I think as far as I could see muting helps also, at fast tempos I tend to hit both strings.
Posted by: maharzan May 20 2013, 11:33 AM
Post yours and we shall see.
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 11:48 AM
Ok will do
I can't play faster than yours though, or maybe even slowerPosted by: jstcrsn May 20 2013, 12:18 PM
The 70's porn mustache plays
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 01:00 PM
Ok here is my take. This is at 125bpm (mind that it is not with eight notes, I am doing it as Chandra did). I would like to be able to play this twice as fast 
Posted by: Slavenko Erazer May 20 2013, 05:51 PM
What's the point in playing one lick while repeating it bazzilion times? 
Posted by: Opetholic May 20 2013, 06:07 PM
The point is to practice that motion..
Posted by: PosterBoy May 20 2013, 09:10 PM
Oops just looked again I completely missed the initial note lol
Posted by: maharzan May 21 2013, 03:34 AM
Smallest motion and relaxing hand should do it.. I know it can get stiffer, I have been there.
Posted by: Todd Simpson May 24 2013, 04:30 AM
QUICK TIP: Personally, on this type of thing I'll typically do the first two strikes as down strokes (Economic picking) then switch to strickt alternate making it an "Inside picking" lick since you'd be picking inside of two strings. Trying to do this as strick alternate from the stat, using down then up then down etc. Feels awkward IMHO, but everyone's hand is a bit different.
Todd
E---------------------------------------------|
B---------------------------------------------|
G---7-----10------9-----7------9-----10------|
D-----7-------7------7-----7------7------7---|
A---------------------------------------------|
E---------------------------------------------|
repeat the bar as many times as possible. (notes are all quarter notes and start with a down stroke)
Posted by: Opetholic May 25 2013, 10:24 AM
Todd, thanks for the tip but I don't quite understand what you are saying.. It is already an inside picking lick from the beginning if you start with a downstroke. Maybe you can post a video playing it first slowly and then fast to make it clear what you mean ?
Posted by: Todd Simpson May 26 2013, 01:49 AM
Using Two Down Strokes for the first two notes, instead of Down then up stroke. Following that switch to strict alternate. I'll make a quick vid
Todd
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 26 2013, 01:41 PM
I'd be interested to see your method as well, Todd! Thanks a bunch for doing a vid
Posted by: Opetholic May 26 2013, 02:32 PM
Me too. I think though Todd confused inside and outside picking. If you play the first two notes as downstroke and switch to strict AP, you end up with a lick that is played as outside picking, which I agree is more comfortable. But the point of this exercise was to practice that awkward inside picking motion.. But maybe I am wrong
maybe he means something different. We will see in the vid
Posted by: maharzan May 26 2013, 02:51 PM
I am pretty sure he saw 4th to 3rd string so 2 downstrokes. The tab is 3rd to 4th.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 26 2013, 02:52 PM
Let's see the vid and the mystery will be revealed
Posted by: Todd Simpson May 27 2013, 12:24 AM
In the vid, I"m playing the low string first, thus the double down stroke. As written it's pure inside picking if you start with a down stroke.
Here it is at 130 BPM and then I switch to DOUBLE PICKING (every note twice), then QUAD PICKING (every note four times) at 200 BPM.
maybe he means something different. We will see in the vid Inside picking seems more natural to me than outside which is why I usually use economic on ascending and alternate on descending scales.
Yup!!!
I actually thought it was tabbed wrong at first. But nope.
Posted by: Spock May 27 2013, 12:45 AM
Posted by: Todd Simpson May 27 2013, 02:46 AM
Well thanks! It's a spiff bit and I think we might have to try something similar in our next Vid Chat!!
Todd
Posted by: DeGroot May 27 2013, 05:49 AM
I meant to post this last week when I first saw this thread. I tried inside and ouside AP picking ( play it 10bpm slower) and starting with a economy down stroke like with Todd's. This lick also sounded cool moving around in a Minor key giving it a neo-classical vibe. Nothing special here just played it with inside picking on a the clean channel around 130bpm. Kind of has a "hypnotic" sound to it here.
https://soundcloud.com/degroot-2/ap-lick
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu May 27 2013, 07:17 AM
Great going man! You rock!
Thanks for posting this
Posted by: ConnorGilks May 27 2013, 07:16 PM
Todd: Now I see why it doesn't make sense, you're playing a pickup into it - not as written. So that's what allows that method to work. If you played it as written it would be weird to do two downstrokes, and it wouldn't be down with economy picking.
Nice work on the video man!
Posted by: Opetholic May 27 2013, 07:59 PM
Thanks for the posts Todd and Mr DG Very nice playing. I will practice this in my free time
Posted by: Todd Simpson May 28 2013, 05:44 AM
Yup. MAHARZAN pointed that to me a few posts ago. But yes your exactly right, playing it the way I"m doing is what let's teh technique actually work. If I played as written double down strokes would be seriously odd Maybe just for working out an odd pick pattern? Thanks for checking it out!
Todd
Nice work on the video man!
Sure thing
I actually played it wrong vs the tab which I read to quickly. I thought I knew where you were going right away. I was just wrong about it It's a good workout to be sure!Todd
Very nice playing. I will practice this in my free time Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
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