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Posted by: Daniel Realpe Jan 11 2010, 04:22 PM
Here in Bogota it's been very different lately,
this is supposed to be a cold city but in the latest months it's really hot. People go out in t-shirts and stuff.
There were some fires caused by this.
Have you noticed changes in your area?
Posted by: Muris Varajic Jan 11 2010, 04:26 PM
It's VERY changing here as well.
Sarajevo is well known of cold winter too (had Olimpics in 84. 
) but last week or two
have been strangely hot for this time of year, 5-15 Celsius.
Before that we had huuuuge snow but it melted in like 24 hours, not good. 
Posted by: Frej10 Jan 11 2010, 04:28 PM
Here in Sweden it's the opposite, it's pretty cold actually ! 
Posted by: jafomatic Jan 11 2010, 04:29 PM
We had a less-hot summer (fewer days > 100F) and are having a slightly colder winter (more days < 32F / 0C) but I wouldn't call this drastic yet. It's a change, but not that great of a change ... yet.
Posted by: tonymiro Jan 11 2010, 04:33 PM
Minor point guys:
Climate is what happens over a long period of time - say 30 years or so.
Weather is what we get over a short period and usually local.
So to talk about the recent heat wave in Bogota or the cold snap in Sarajevo is weather, whilst the reported gradual increase in sea temperature since the early 60s is climate change. It's one reason why climatologists can still talk about global warming in the UK despite the awful winter they're having 
.
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 11 2010, 04:41 PM
Don't think it's all too bad here. It's all about how you take it, I geuss. We've had very cold weather and snow lately, which we haven't had for years... but I thought they said winters were supposed to get warmer here? Yeah, I know that's wheather and not climate... but still 
Besides... I read something about them now saying everything will get colder and colder in the next 50 years or so? Will see if I find the source.
Posted by: Sollesnes Jan 11 2010, 04:57 PM
Winter this year was colder then usual as well. Further north, there is a video of someone throwing water in the air, and it turns to snow before hitting the ground ^^
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 11 2010, 05:29 PM
I personally feel it's a very frightening and real problem - I don't recognize the Swedish climate.
Posted by: Muris Varajic Jan 11 2010, 05:29 PM
That's scary, like in Day After movie!!
Posted by: Sollesnes Jan 11 2010, 05:32 PM
hehe yes, here is the video: http://www.dagbladet.no/2010/01/07/nyheter/innenriks/kulda/kulderekord/9814833/
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 11 2010, 06:55 PM
here the climate is very bad as well. Big temperatures in December, and what's more important frequent temperature ups and downs of 10C to even 20C difference! We had major snow about 2-3 weeks ago, it was on the streets for 3 days and then it melted same way it came - in 1 day. Scary.. 
Posted by: superize Jan 11 2010, 07:23 PM
We have had really cold weather for over a monh with temperatures down to -30 C....
Its the coldest winter in many years
Posted by: MickeM Jan 11 2010, 07:31 PM
Cold winter here this year, lots of snow, just like the winters used to be when I was a kid 30+ years ago. So remembering the winters that used to be, it's nothing new.
Posted by: Staffy Jan 11 2010, 08:15 PM
Same here, nothing new under the sun, just reminds me of the winters we had EVERY year when I was a kid..... and its also hard to tell if we are going against a global warming or a new ice-time since some scientists claims that the the global warming will make the Gulf-stream to change direction causing the ice to grow instead....... who knows??? What is bad however ist the pollution of the air.....
//Staffay
Posted by: Marek Rojewski Jan 11 2010, 08:23 PM
I am only 23 years old, so can't speak how I remember it for the last 30 years, but in my life the weather haven't changed much. One year the winter isn't cold and everyone gets excited about the climate change, and another year there is snow everywhere and the temperature is very low. Summers are bit warmer in few last years, but there are still long rainy/crapy weather periods in it.
Posted by: Keilnoth Jan 11 2010, 09:03 PM
We are talking about global warming for about 10 or 15 years now and yes, it can be scary at some point. But the nature and the universe are bigger than that. I am sure we are not going to kill the planet. The planet will evolve, for sure, but will certainly survive.
One must remember that everything we produce come from the Earth, including gas and everything that today cause that so feared global warming.
I am very optimistic for the planet, but not that much for humanity. See, on the scale of the universe, who care about mankind ? What is 6000 years of civilization compared to millions years of evolution ? Nothing to worry about, really... We shouldn't be so selfish and egocentric.
There is a very good documentary about what would happen if man completely disappear from the planet. Unfortunately they are in French and I can't find a translation : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJVOvYPHrMY
It's very interesting to see that after only 10 years the seas will have completely regenerated themselves. And after only like 20 or 50 years (if I remember well) our buildings and cars will have disappeared under the new vegetation...
So, yes, I am very optimistic for our planet. It will survive our passage.
Posted by: Staffy Jan 11 2010, 09:33 PM
So, yes, I am very optimistic for our planet. It will survive our passage.
Exactly how I would put it, I'm no pessimistic either - even that some scientist-wanna-be-heard-and-famous are throwing bad reports at us like I switch my underwear... (no, they are even worse...
) We're not alone in the universe, and since mankind has always been bad to this planet I think the nature has its own regulations to deal with it - if we don't have a god above????//Staffay
Posted by: Marek Rojewski Jan 11 2010, 09:44 PM
Although it sounds bit like science fiction still I think that there is a chance for mankind to figure out a way of traveling long distances of space in shorter time, and finding new worlds to colonize. To bad we won't be around anymore when this happens.
Posted by: Staffy Jan 11 2010, 09:58 PM
Who said we won't??? If this cold continues a little longer, I will freeze to death and then be preserved for the next 500 years in a refrigirator. Its all in my will !!!
Posted by: Marek Rojewski Jan 11 2010, 11:54 PM
Hmm must move to Sweden before it will happen than...
Posted by: NoSkill Jan 12 2010, 02:49 AM
In Canada, we had the coldest place recorded, one night in late December. We went from -47C that night with a 30Km/h wind to +7C today. Our weather has been VERY wierd in the last few years. It is unheard of to have melting temperatures in January, as much as the cold snap we had was also unusual.
Posted by: maharzan Jan 12 2010, 03:03 AM
In Katmandu, I m feeling the winter I had felt when I was a child. Its damn cold. Never has winter been so cold for last 10 years or so.
2012 is nearing....
Posted by: kahall Jan 12 2010, 06:02 AM
The weather here is different every year. Some years we get hammered with snow but not so much cold. The next year no snow but colder than what we expect, then the next year both. Same in the summer, hot one year then mild. It has always been that way here. I prefer hotter but that is just me. I probably would not like it so much but central air conditioning keeps me cool.
Climate is what happens over a long period of time - say 30 years or so.
Weather is what we get over a short period and usually local.
So to talk about the recent heat wave in Bogota or the cold snap in Sarajevo is weather, whilst the reported gradual increase in sea temperature since the early 60s is climate change. It's one reason why climatologists can still talk about global warming in the UK despite the awful winter they're having
.Well put. But would those climatologists you speak of be the same ones from The University of East Anglia who like to hide the decline? The same ones who are responsible for scamming billions of dollars from more than one nation? They really have some nerve. They have been busted and yet they refuse to give up.
Posted by: zen Jan 12 2010, 06:32 AM
It's summers here in Australia. The weather has been VERY hot here .. we had the hottest day in a long time yesterday .. temperature touching 43 degrees celcius. Great risk of bushfires, and the heat wave causes a a distruption to all public transport and other traffic too. Being outside is like walkin in an oven and being toasted and sunburnt.
Over here, Santa comes wearing singlet & shorts with some beers in his bag.
Wont go to the topic of climate changes over the decade as it is certainly a very very scary thought. A thought that requires great respect and attention.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ausuZoSSOv6A&pos=9
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