Unique Animated Show In Denmark? |
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Jul 20 2021, 09:07 PM |
That's perverse. Why would you post something like that here? You got issues, man. As does anyone who tries to rationalize it as being appropriate for children. I think in many ways Denmark in general might be more "liberated" in terms of what is shown and what isn't on TV. Now, I'm not deciding on this one. They've consulted child psychologists and other experts before airing it, and it is supposedly more about accepting differences and different types of bodies, and it has opened up a lot of discussion between kids and their parents about bodies and how to behave, which might not be a bad thing. Found this link which explains the two sides: https://www.distractify.com/p/danish-cartoon-john-dillermand This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Jul 20 2021, 09:12 PM |
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Jul 20 2021, 09:36 PM |
I think in many ways Denmark in general might be more "liberated" in terms of what is shown and what isn't on TV. Now, I'm not deciding on this one. They've consulted child psychologists and other experts before airing it, and it is supposedly more about accepting differences and different types of bodies, and it has opened up a lot of discussion between kids and their parents about bodies and how to behave, which might not be a bad thing. Found this link which explains the two sides: https://www.distractify.com/p/danish-cartoon-john-dillermand Yeah, I heard all that in the interviews you posted. It's rubbish. There are far better ways to teach acceptance without being perverted. I think in many ways Denmark in general might be more "liberated" in terms of what is shown and what isn't on TV. Now, I'm not deciding on this one. They've consulted child psychologists and other experts before airing it, and it is supposedly more about accepting differences and different types of bodies, and it has opened up a lot of discussion between kids and their parents about bodies and how to behave, which might not be a bad thing. Found this link which explains the two sides: https://www.distractify.com/p/danish-cartoon-john-dillermand Yeah, I heard all that in the interviews you posted. It's rubbish. There are far better ways to teach acceptance without being perverted. This post has been edited by AK Rich: Jul 20 2021, 09:46 PM |
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Jul 21 2021, 07:39 AM |
Every article I have found about it states that there is a great deal of backlash in Denmark concerning the show. So it's surely not just Americans who might think it's inappropriate, which of course it is. Without having checked it seems a bit 50/50. However you can buy John Dillerman cakes and they're usually sold out, so it can't be completely bad for everything I suppose. Read through a couple of articles about how it was recieved and it seems its not all that bad. Sure, controversial and not a home run, but not so bad they decided to stop producing it. I think they did more episodes than the original 13. Also from Danish newspapers (you will have to run them through I translator): https://www.zetland.dk/historie/s81EM1EG-aO0E1wr0-ef4ca https://ekstrabladet.dk/underholdning/filmo...t-klamt/8418540 https://underholdning.tv2.dk/2021-01-07-ude...at-dansk-boerne As a response to those who are critical DR said this https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kultur/sjovt-elle...d-deler-vandene This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Jul 21 2021, 08:30 AM |
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Jul 21 2021, 08:30 AM |
Ha, ha! This is great.
As an American who has traveled and worked abroad a lot, I can say that we are the most provincial and prudish nation I've ever been too. I haven't visited Saudi Arabia so yeah, we're probably in second place. My 12 year old boy has spent about a month every summer on beaches in Italy and France (I know, life is tough). Naked boobs everywhere. Tons of kids of all ages. Nobody stares, nobody comments - even privately. It's no big deal. It's analogous to their alcohol consumption; it's always available and cheap. And yet both Italy and France have some of the lowest levels of alcoholism and alcohol abuse on the planet, not too mention pretty low mortality rates too. It's a goofy, striped and ridiculously long cartoon penis. Any normal 6 year old knows it's not 'real'. PS, I also let my kid play 1st person shooter video games and big surprise ... he doesn't really want to actually kill anybody or any thing. Cartoon dick, cartoon gun - they're the same. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jul 21 2021, 12:36 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jul 21 2021, 08:31 AM |
I've added some links to my last post about the reception here in Denmark. You will have to run them through a translator of course.
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Jul 21 2021, 08:11 PM |
After translating and reading the articles and response from DR. I see that there is indeed a great deal of backlash from Danish parents AND other experts for various reasons. That says alot considering how liberated Denmark is supposed to be. Again, there are far better ways to teach acceptance without being perverted and desensitizing children. There are plenty positive comments about it too. Depends what you mean with "great deal", I suppose. There are plenty positives too - in comment sections and other places, also in the articles. Sure, some backlash, but that's what a controversial and progressive show (even cartoon) gets you. But what is the perversion exactly though? Is that seeing it through the eyes of a 4-8 year old (who I don't think sees anything as perverted) or through the eyes of an adult who knows and experiences things in a different way. Can it be used by adults to do bad things? Maybe, but so can many things though, be that candy or cartoons from the 90's. I don't really see it as perversion, as there's nothing sexualising in it in the show. Now, I'm not saying the program can't have bad effects in different areas, as I've mentioned, but that children see different bodies (and in this case a clothed body part that is not sexualised in the program) I see no problem with in regards to accepting themselves and their differences. If it's the best way? I don't know. I think it's beneficial to see that not everyone is the same but that we're all equal (more so related to the Ultra Smider Tøjet (Ultra Strips Down) show though), that we're not teaching picture perfectness through Instagram and Facebook and so on. Again nothing sexualising in it, but rather just creating some good talks, questions etc. Obviously it's a sensitive topic no matter what, but kids see different types of naked bodies in the showers at the public indoor swimming pool and likely in many other places. Whether TV is the best place for it? Who knows, but it reaches a broader audience for better or worse. So yes, there are issues, but for me nudity is not a problem. And I don't even like nudity unless I'm in the shower, but that's my personal problem! Here's a link to a cartoon from Denmark from probably the 90's, also airing on DR. 9 minute mark is the "interesting" part in relation to this discussion: https://youtu.be/LowYG0OArj4?t=512 This post has been edited by Caelumamittendum: Jul 21 2021, 08:37 PM |
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Jul 21 2021, 11:35 PM |
There are plenty positive comments about it too. Depends what you mean with "great deal", I suppose. There are plenty positives too - in comment sections and other places, also in the articles. Sure, some backlash, but that's what a controversial and progressive show (even cartoon) gets you. But what is the perversion exactly though? Is that seeing it through the eyes of a 4-8 year old (who I don't think sees anything as perverted) or through the eyes of an adult who knows and experiences things in a different way. Can it be used by adults to do bad things? Maybe, but so can many things though, be that candy or cartoons from the 90's. I don't really see it as perversion, as there's nothing sexualising in it in the show. Now, I'm not saying the program can't have bad effects in different areas, as I've mentioned, but that children see different bodies (and in this case a clothed body part that is not sexualised in the program) I see no problem with in regards to accepting themselves and their differences. If it's the best way? I don't know. I think it's beneficial to see that not everyone is the same but that we're all equal (more so related to the Ultra Smider Tøjet (Ultra Strips Down) show though), that we're not teaching picture perfectness through Instagram and Facebook and so on. Again nothing sexualising in it, but rather just creating some good talks, questions etc. Obviously it's a sensitive topic no matter what, but kids see different types of naked bodies in the showers at the public indoor swimming pool and likely in many other places. Whether TV is the best place for it? Who knows, but it reaches a broader audience for better or worse. So yes, there are issues, but for me nudity is not a problem. And I don't even like nudity unless I'm in the shower, but that's my personal problem! Here's a link to a cartoon from Denmark from probably the 90's, also airing on DR. 9 minute mark is the "interesting" part in relation to this discussion: https://youtu.be/LowYG0OArj4?t=512 You said yourself you thought it was 50/50. That's a great deal of people, enough to get a show canceled. If not, I am sure that many parents will not allow their children to see it. A children's show where a man does tricks with enormous genitalia is perverted the way I see it and can easily be misunderstood by 4 to 8 yr Olds. That's my view and it looks like I am far from alone, even in Denmark. This post has been edited by AK Rich: Jul 21 2021, 11:48 PM |
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