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Jun 6 2013, 03:29 PM |
I agree with Cosmin about this. However I'm not sure if these pedals are the best way to get that metalcore tones. I think that those tones can be gotten with real amps or at least Axe Ultra. At this time, I have never tried a distortion pedal that could win the battle against Mesa Boogie, Peavey or Soldano. I wonder what about this one...
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Jun 7 2013, 06:59 AM |
If it gets the tone you're looking for, 230 some odd dollars is really not a big deal (there are many way more expensive pedals out there).
How many cheaper ODs or boosts have you bought in search of ... ? Three? Seven? Twenty? Four Boss DS-1s and/or the equivalent is about 200 bucks. The personal tone quest is not an easy road or a short road (it's a fun road though). Buying a bunch of pedals may seem expensive but talk to a studio owner or mastering engineer and compare some prices on analog mic pres and compressors and EQs or 'real' monitors - now you're talking about some money. I think that pro tone pedal is pretty cool. I like how it tightens up the low, low end w/out adding a ton of extra gain or really changing the amp/guitar tone. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jun 7 2013, 07:01 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jun 7 2013, 08:02 AM
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The Ibanez tube screamer is not a clean boost, but anyway yeah going for a specific thing gets expensive.
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Jun 7 2013, 03:23 PM |
It's all relative.
here we have a saying: 'Sometimes, we are too poor to afford to buy cheap things'. I live by that statement! Or, as my wife likes to simplify it ... 'you can pay now ... or you can pay later'. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jun 7 2013, 03:24 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jun 7 2013, 09:31 PM |
I came close to ordering one of these but didn't have the money on hand and wasn't willing to borrow it. Let us know how it sounds!
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Jun 7 2013, 11:23 PM |
Of course not I I"ve tried the DS-1 and it too is fine for what it does. Just not what I"m in search of. Lol! I didn't actually mean a DS-1. Just a reference to very inexpensive pedals (they're probably the cheapest decent pedal out there at $39.00 at GC everyday). But if you end up buying 4 or 6 or 10 'cheap' pedals and never find what you're really looking for then it's time to sell all the cheap crap and get the one that you really want - whatever the price. *For whatever reason guitar players tend to fall into two camps. Group 1) only buys the cheapest gear possible and swears that it's 'just as good as X that costs a zillion dollars' and Group 2) only buys the zillion dollar gear and refuses to admit that 'the guy on the street corner with the Squier Affinity Strat and Crate battery amp sounds better than he does'. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jun 7 2013, 11:25 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jun 8 2013, 04:56 PM |
The Romanian version is much more poetic!
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Jun 8 2013, 09:47 PM |
I was in the el cheapo camp for a long time ... until I realized I'd spent probably $1000.00 on distortion/OD pedals over the period of a few years and never really found what I was looking for. I still have several but I sold a bunch of them and bought a Landgraff Mo'D and haven't been interested in much since.
I definitely fall into the middle now. The 'cheap' stuff I buy - such as Teisco guitars - serve a cheap purpose. They're supposed to sound old, funky and 'cheap'. A noisy and crappy fuzz is used to sound noisy and crappy. Those sounds absolutely fill a void. And not just in kitsch or retro type tracks for TV. When I do sessions I ALWAYS bring one horrible sounding electric, a 'kids' acoustic and nasty nasty fuzz and/or phaser. Usually when nothing else is getting the part one of these things will be just the ticket. Same with 'toy' amps like this ... http://www.smokeyamps.com/products/smokey-...CFdFDMgodKhQAIQ Put it in a metal bucket or a cardboard box ... or swing it around by the cable in the room. Conversely, when I need a piece of gear that (IMO) sounds really good, fills a specific niche for me and will also have to withstand travel and me beating the crap out of it gig after gig ... I don't have a problem spending some money. I'm mostly thinking out loud about amplification. One of the real world benefits of a nice hand wired 1 or 2 ch. tube amp is the fact that it's easy to work on. You open it up and it's all right there. Find the bad part, pull it out and replace it. Try doing that (on the road) with a Kemper or Axe FX. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jun 8 2013, 11:28 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jun 11 2013, 08:45 PM |
Will do Can't wait to get it, but it may be a while, looks like about 2 month lag on orders.
Todd I came close to ordering one of these but didn't have the money on hand and wasn't willing to borrow it. Let us know how it sounds! I hear ya Tube Amps still have a TON of benefits. Great tone, volume, ease of repair, etc. Going "Non Tube" has it's bennies as well, so like most things it usually boils down to the buyer. The KEMPER/AXE FX folks usually have TWO UNITS in each rack so that when one goes down they just switch to the backup. Then again, lots of touring guys with tube heads use the same trick and double up on everything to prep for gear failure. The handy thing about a tube head, especially if you have experience changing tubes, fixing bits etc., is that even if both units break, you may be able to find the bits to repair them at a music shop even on the road providing it's not to severe of breakage. Tubes died etc. With an AXE/KEMPER, if both units go down for whatever reason, they are going to have to be sent back to be fixed. Of course, the odds of two axe or kemper units going down is pretty low, just as both heads going down is low, and why folks don't usually bring three of each I have noticed a trend of touring musicians. IT seems that now, to save money, bands on a tour will bring their own processors/heads, and share cabinets. It makes sense. If the bands all use Mesa/Orange or what not, or something similar, they can save shipping/gas/load in/ load out etc. costs by just sharing the cabinet and swapping out processors. At the PROG POWER show, the same rigs were on stage all night and the same drum kit. All the bands appeared to be using the same gear. Then again, it's possible the amps were props and the real gear was back stage, but the drum kit never moved. Every drummer went up and used it. Todd I was in the el cheapo camp for a long time ... until I realized I'd spent probably $1000.00 on distortion/OD pedals over the period of a few years and never really found what I was looking for. I still have several but I sold a bunch of them and bought a Landgraff Mo'D and haven't been interested in much since. I definitely fall into the middle now. The 'cheap' stuff I buy - such as Teisco guitars - serve a cheap purpose. They're supposed to sound old, funky and 'cheap'. A noisy and crappy fuzz is used to sound noisy and crappy. Those sounds absolutely fill a void. And not just in kitsch or retro type tracks for TV. When I do sessions I ALWAYS bring one horrible sounding electric, a 'kids' acoustic and nasty nasty fuzz and/or phaser. Usually when nothing else is getting the part one of these things will be just the ticket. Same with 'toy' amps like this ... http://www.smokeyamps.com/products/smokey-...CFdFDMgodKhQAIQ Put it in a metal bucket or a cardboard box ... or swing it around by the cable in the room. Conversely, when I need a piece of gear that (IMO) sounds really good, fills a specific niche for me and will also have to withstand travel and me beating the crap out of it gig after gig ... I don't have a problem spending some money. I'm mostly thinking out loud about amplification. One of the real world benefits of a nice hand wired 1 or 2 ch. tube amp is the fact that it's easy to work on. You open it up and it's all right there. Find the bad part, pull it out and replace it. Try doing that (on the road) with a Kemper or Axe FX. |
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Jun 12 2013, 12:24 AM |
lots of touring guys with tube heads use the same trick and double up on everything to prep for gear failure. Very true. I have a Crate Solid State head that travels with me as my back up. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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