#33 Economic Picking W Fret Travel, Economic Picking Pattern At Various Places on the Neck |
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Jun 23 2018, 06:24 PM
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QUICK LICKS #33 ECONOMIC PICKING PATTERNS W FRET TRAVEL INTRO:"Economic Picking" is quite simply just using two ore more pick strokes in the same direction. For example, using two down strokes in a row while traversing up the strings. In this example, we are going to us ECON PICKING in a pattern that can be looped. It's the same exact pattern played at three places on the neck. It's on the same strings each time, just at different fret positions. You can focus on looping the pattern at the first position until you get comfy with it. Make sure to keep a solid palm mute on every string at all times. DO NOT let any of the notes ring out. Keep it all very tight and staccato/choppy. Also, I'm playing this using a finger bar so muting becomes even more important. If your muting is not rock solid, you will end up with notes ringing out when they should be already deadened. Make this sound like you are NOT using a finger bar. E.G. Don't let this ring out like a chord. This lick has a sort of Paul Gilber/Technical Difficulties Vibe to it, even though Paul Would probably play this Alternate Picked, instead of Economic! It still has that kind of sound and in the "Paulean" style of technical riffage. I find this type of lick much harder to do as an Alt Picking lick, but every hand is different. Se what you think. *Make sure to watch the vid!. *NOTE: Keep your mute so that you don't get string noise. Use both hands to mute! *Here is Guitar Pro Tab for Quick Licks 33 BACKGROUND / COMMENTS This is a stand alone drill/lick. It's meant to be played by itself as it's not really a scale. It's for practicing your tapping and muting using an open string and some shifting hand positions.  
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Number of downloads: 119BTW: Please let me know if you have any questions about this lick, send me a PM if you like or post here. I'm happy to help! 
This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jun 23 2018, 11:26 PM |
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Jun 26 2018, 04:43 PM
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My take Sarge!
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Jun 27 2018, 09:00 PM
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Well done George, that's incredible. I'm finding it a real finger twister
 
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Jun 29 2018, 09:43 PM
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Ok Todd,
Here is the 1st section repeated a couple of times to see if you can give me some pointers. I have to admit the World Cup has taken some of my practise sessions. Thank you. https://youtu.be/Am3Yt9-sF-8 -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 29 2018, 10:30 PM
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OK try this, loop the first four notes and don't move your left hand at all. take the left hand entirely out of the equation. The basic shape here is to to start on a down stroke, then upstroke then two down stroke and rinse / repeat. That grouping is the basis of this entire bit. so try to do that on a loop and get comfy with it. it's those two down strokes that are the most important. Try to treat them as a mini sweep and glide over them instead of picking them as individual notes. Make sure you are using a pointy/stiff pick here. if you have a Von hotch pick on hand that would be your best bet! The octavious Von is built just for this type of thing. if not, any stiff pick with a point will do!
Give it a go!!  Todd QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 29 2018, 04:43 PM)  Ok Todd,
Here is the 1st section repeated a couple of times to see if you can give me some pointers. I have to admit the World Cup has taken some of my practise sessions. Thank you. https://youtu.be/Am3Yt9-sF-8 |
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Jun 29 2018, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 29 2018, 10:30 PM) OK try this, loop the first four notes and don't move your left hand at all. take the left hand entirely out of the equation. The basic shape here is to to start on a down stroke, then upstroke then two down stroke and rinse / repeat. I thought that's what I was doing lol -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jun 30 2018, 10:19 PM
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Sorry Todd, too much Strongbow addled my brain
 I'm not really a numpty, not totally anyway.Really struggling with this and it seems harder not using the left hand  Here is another take, with mistakes, no point not posting without errors  The guitar nearly went through the window tonight  https://youtu.be/dJIHgzCZfAA This post has been edited by Phil66: Jul 1 2018, 11:45 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 1 2018, 06:33 AM
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You can leave it fretted with your left hand if that helps
Just don't move your left hand so that you can focus on the right. I saw several times when you had it!!!! One thing, when making the double down stroke, think of it as strumming a chord. Like you are strumming a bit open G chord. Just let your fingers glide over both down strokes. Try to isolate just that for a bit. Just the two down strokes in a row done like strumming a chord. Then add one up stroke on the low string. It's the combination of those two motions that make the whole thing work I know this is NOT easy. Our Spartan made it looks easy, but it's really quite difficult until you break through and get the hang of it. Try the isolation technique above and let me know! :)Todd QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 30 2018, 05:19 PM) Sorry Todd, too much Strongbow addled my brain
I'm really a numpty, not totally anyway.Really struggling with this and it seems harder not using the left hand Here is another take, with mistakes, no point not posting without errors The guitar nearly went through the window tonight https://youtu.be/dJIHgzCZfAA This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jul 1 2018, 07:28 AM |
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Jul 12 2018, 08:33 PM
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Ok,
Now we've been knocked out of the world cup I'm back on track a little bit. I've had to add the pick stroke motifs to the whole thing in GP5. I had managed to get it right on the first two (4 with the repeat) bars but when I moved along to the next position I was having to look back. I does seem to be helping a little. This is so hard for me. I used to naturally pick this way and an old teacher made me break the habit by forcing everything to be alternate picking so maybe that's my problem.UPDATE: I think I've improved more in ten minutes after putting the up down stroke markers in than I have in the whole time since I started. Video coming very soon. Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Jul 12 2018, 08:40 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 12 2018, 10:10 PM
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I did it in gp5 and it has helped more than I would have imagined. I think it's just because I've had a preoccupation hard time with this one, I wouldn't normally have such a problem because most are alternate picking.
I was finding that no matter how quick I could play the first two bars I HAD to look at the picking icons. I thought if I put them all through I could learn the complete piece and it might internalise better. I don't know why but it's worth a try. You don't have to do it buddy, I'm sure if we need it we can do it. Cheers buddy. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 13 2018, 06:11 AM
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I tried that, I tried a few things. This is a strange one just for me. I actually managed to play the first two bars last night about four times without looking at the tab and then my mind lost its way. Sometimes I can play the first position without looking but when I change position my mind loses the picking pattern again. It's a really really strange thing that maybe only a psychoanalyst could explain. I know for sure, on my first stint of taking up guitar many moons ago, I would have naturally picked it that way, in my youthful arrogance I didn't understand the point of alternate picking, I used to think "what's the point of going passed a string to come back to pick it, just pick it as you get to it". I get it now but after concentrating on alternate picking the economy picking part of my brain seems to have withered away.
Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 13 2018, 09:03 PM
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Thanks for your help Todd,
Up until last night I wasn't any better than my practise take above so I am quite pleased with this. It's a bit robotic but I'm sure in time as it gets internalised it will be more relaxed. What do you think? I'm amazed that it took to putting the pick strokes into GP file to manage it. Maybe you've learnt something as a teacher too? That would be cool. Oh, I don't come in on beat either https://youtu.be/vCGakjoJhNI -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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