Hi!
At the moment I'm playing on a cheap acoustic guitar, which suits for the first steps, but... I wanna play electric guitar
I read a lot on the I-net, looking not to spend more than 400 dollars.
I found the Ibanez GRG170DX-WH and a Line Spider 6 III 15
Is this a good combination to start? What are your experiences with them?
I don't want to focus on a specific music genre, I want to learn a lot of styles
Or do you have any other recommandations in this price range?
Do I need other things to start?
I would strongly advise against the Ibanez GRG170DX, as I have it. I can't comment on the amp since I've never tried it.
Anyway about the Ibanez. It will go out of tune every 5 minutes or whenever you use the whammy bar, which gets very annoying. I don't really think you can get a whammy bar that doesn't send the guitar out of tune at that price, so I would go for something with a fixed bridge. I know you may really want a tremolo, but think of it this way. It will go out of tune so much when you use it that you won't actually be able to use it, if you see what I mean.
Obviously its your choice but I just thought I'd warn you that this guitar has very bad tuning problems. I don't know if there is a guitar at that price witha tremolo that stays in tune, but from what I've heard there isnt. If you are going to buy a guitar with a trem then i strongly advise playing it before you buy and seeing if the whammy bar sends it out of tune, or if it goes out of tune without the whammy bar.
Also want to add, that Ibanez's are generally thought of as metal guitars, so if you want to play a lot of styles they might not be the right make for you. I haven't tried a lot of guitars so I don't know how their sound comapres to other guitars, but its just something you might want to think about.
For amp if you're not going to be gigging I recommend the http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=594. It goes way louder than the right volume for bedroom use (i have mine below 9 o'clock), has 6 amps, and variable delay, reverb, chorus, flanger, phaser and tremolo, and a bass/treble control.
The Line6 amp could be better though, but I haven't ever tried it.
Where do you live? I know here in Holland we have a very good, cheap electric brand called Richwood. www.musicstore.com features some Jack and Danny guitars, which are good for beginners. Also Epiphone if you have some money, or a Yamaha Pacifica (cool )
I'm agree with Kaznie. You should check to the Yamaha Pacifica. They're very good guitars and for low price. Maybe, you should take some second hand stuff. Maybe, you could find something better for a lower price.
since you are still new,
id spend about $300-350 on the guitar alone, then use the left over money to buy a line 6 toneport for your amp....(you use it to play through the computer, very simple, good for recording, and sounds great)
as for the guitar, if you like ibanez, they make a lot of mid range guitars for that price that are good bangs for your buck.
anothr great company of guitars are agile guitars. www.rondomusic.net
they are amazing playing and feeling guitars and their prices cant be beat
good luck!
I just read some reviews of my guitar (GRG170DX) and they say nothing about tuning so maybe I just had bad luck.
Thanks guys, nice posts, especially from Matt
I've read some articles as well, and now I think the Microcube is a better (even if the difference is little) amp than the Spider Line...The Line 6 toneport is also cool, will be on my wishlist That's about the amp...
The guitar seems a far more difficult topic! I'm aware that guitars in this price range aren't the best, I want to have a solid beginner guitar, for a year or so. As well as Matt, I've read nothing bad about the Ibanez, maybe one of the other users has got this Ibanez and can give us another point of view ?
Then there would be the Yamaha Pacifica 112 and the Epiphone Les Paul II in the race!? Hopefully some of you play one of the three guitars and can give me more advice!
Pacifica 112 is a solid beginner guitar, if you like strats. The epi should be a decent guitar too if you like LP shaped axes. You should try them yourself in a local store if you have the chance, see which one seems more comfortable, sound, etc.
Hmm, I think a Les Paul would be nice only thinking about Special II or 100...
btw, thanks for all your advice !
I had both of those actually. I still have the amp but wasnt very impressed with the guitar especially since the plastic on the back was deformed. The neck was a bit wide and the wammy bar would put it out of tune easily.. If your looking to get a 100$ ibanez guitar I would advise to go for one with a fixed bridge.
Nice choice for the amp, I have a spider series amp head and it serves me well, I would say a fender strat though... Best guitars to not only start out with but continue to play on. You can get the Fender squires in a package with a cheap but okay amp with it. Its all together around 250 dollars or so. The guy at the store told me and my friend(my friend was buying the whole packaged deal) that they make the squire heads fat like the strat so they sound much better. Strats are great!!!!! guitars for any musical genre and great guitars all around. I hope that helped.
I agree with trey, strats are very versatile, easy to play, high quality for the money, loads of dealer networks and best of all the are hugely upgradeable. A good 2nd hand MIM strat would be only around 200-250 euro and in future you can upgrade the pickups, hardware, wiring etc.
Just a word of warning, they are not metal guitars, even if you get some extreme pups in there they will still be more of a blues/rock type guitar, on the plus side they do this better than virtually every guitar out there. I just got rid of a strat but intend on getting another nice one (Or a G&L!)
So you would prefer a Fender Squier Standard Strat to an Epiphone Les Paul 100?
No mate, A made in mexico strat is a fender, not a squier, totally different thing! That would be my choice all day. Look for a decent used one and you wont go far wrong.
Personally I would just go into your nearest guitar store, try lots of guitars/amps out, and buy what you like. I would advise buying one without a tremolo but if it stays in tune when you use it in the store then I see no reason not to get it.
Fusar, have you got any specific things that you're looking for in a guitar?
Hmm, probably it will be the best to go into a store
I'll look out for the Yamaha Pacifica, Epiphone Les Paul and the Fender Squier (@sted: I found this name on the I-net...Fender Squier Standard Strat?!)
When I was looking for my first guitar the guy at the music store said the Yamaha Pacifica was very good for beginners so that could be a good buy.
Thanks guys
Now I've got an idea what I should/could buy, I'll test them, buy one and have fun
Let us know what you get in the end.
I'll do so! Thanks for all you help guys, you're great !
If it's a beginners guitar you are looking for, you might consider a Silvertone SIK1. It looks kinda shreddy, but it is REALLY (around €100) cheap and very solid. The guy at the music store says he recommends them to everyone, and I looked also at some reviews online and they were all very positive. Also, the tremolo stays in tune nicely, if you don't overuse it.
Hi guys!
Reading all the posts, can I assume that a Fender Squier BulletStrat is out of the question?
Cost me around 100€ and I can't complaint very much yet. But I'm just a begginer.
Any other suggestion around that price?
Thanks!
Taaadaaa bought a guitar yesterday...a Yamaha Pacifica 112J and I've fallen in love with it Been playing all day long
amp is also great, bought Spider Line 6 III 15
I wanna thank you for all your help!
gratz mate, I think thats a good choice!!
There's a pretty good guitar with a double locking tremolo system in that price range, I had it quite recently.
I only had to set it up properly (it took me a couple of days to get more familiar with it and too see what exactly caused the tuning problems), put a little shim under the nut, to correct the angle, and it worked, believe it or not!!! Almost as good as OFR on my Jackson Soloist!
It was a new Kramer Striker FR424, this one here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNM1bwKlW44
Just take it to a good guitar tech, tell him to pay some attention to the nut (because it causes problems if you don't put a shim under it, it's at the wrong angle and it doesn't clamp the strings 100%) and you'll have the best guitar for the money, believe me!
Oh, I'm sorry Ivan, didn't see your post but when you gave me your advice, I had already bought my Yamaha Pacifica (which I'm very satisfied with!) But I can imagine that your advice would be a great beginner guitar, so don't stop giving advices, this will be good advice for all guitar beginners here
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