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Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 19 2010, 03:32 PM

I decided to do a collaboration based on my latest lesson: Metalcore, Trivium Style.
so if you like it, sing up!

all levels are welcome, you can bring some melodies, or a fast and wild solo over the bt!

Tempo: 200 bpm
Guitar Tuning: Down 1/2 step

Eb|1st|---High string-----|
Bb|2nd|-------------------|
Gb|3rd|-------------------|
Db|4th|-------------------|
Ab|5th|-------------------|
Eb|6th|---Low string -----|

Chords are:
Section 1: Am-G-F
Section 2: F-Am x2
Section 3: G-F-Dm-C

Deadline: 5th November

are you in?

Soldiers so far!
Guitarrero DONE
Superize DONE
Fireball DONE
Weepee DONE
Kristian Hyvarinen
JulienV
SirJamsalot
Marek Rojewski DONE
NoSkill DONE
Jitty DONE
Christophe
Emirb DONE
Kaznie DONE
tmrock DONE

Posted by: SirJamsalot Oct 19 2010, 05:02 PM

that is one bad-a#$ riff. I love it. The only thing I don't like is it's too short! I know you need to keep it short because you have to mix a-lot of people into a single mix-down, but I'd love to see a collab like this one where it's a full song.

Christian A.

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 19 2010, 05:36 PM

well Christian, I know what you mean. we'll see in future collabs what can we do

Posted by: Gitarrero Oct 19 2010, 07:06 PM

Hey Lian,
I'm in! That's gonna be an awesome collab

Posted by: superize Oct 19 2010, 08:02 PM

Hopefully i will come up with something

Posted by: Christophe Oct 19 2010, 08:26 PM

I'd love to participate but I don't know anything about song writing and I'm not good enough to play a perfect thing. So, maybe next year

Posted by: superize Oct 19 2010, 10:32 PM

Here is my first take on it

Posted by: Christophe Oct 19 2010, 11:29 PM

Wow nice solo Superize ;D It sounds like it is in the same key, am I wrong ?

Posted by: thefireball Oct 20 2010, 03:28 PM

Count me in!!! I'll try to come up with something.

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 20 2010, 03:51 PM

btw, are you in? LOL... sorry, I'm not sure



awesome!!!



man, give it a try! I'm sure you can bring up some melodies to the collab



awesome!



awesome man! that was fast!!!

Posted by: WeePee Oct 20 2010, 05:17 PM

Hey I'm in too !!

This sounds great !

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Oct 20 2010, 05:32 PM

Count me in. I'll shred this collab straight to six feet under!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 20 2010, 05:52 PM

awesome!!! welcome guys

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Oct 20 2010, 05:52 PM

Okay, now I've come up with a crazy solo, I'll shoot and post it tomorrow!

It's not as good as Superizes, though...

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 20 2010, 05:58 PM

great man!!! can't wait to listen to it

Posted by: JulienV Oct 20 2010, 08:51 PM

Yeah I like a lot this sound and the idea for the collab is cool.
But I do not know how to compose and I do not play still very well.
If I try to compose a melody for this collab, I shall need far too much time.
I am going to try but without guaranteed result or if, in the future, this collaboration remains open, I'll upload my sound

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 20 2010, 08:59 PM

ok Julien! if you need any help, just ask!
btw, great to see you on the forums man

Posted by: SirJamsalot Oct 20 2010, 09:00 PM

Sorry, I didn't really say if I was in or not, did i? haha. I'll give it a try.
Christian A.

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Oct 20 2010, 09:06 PM

Hi there Lian, I already gave the BT a try, tell me what You think. If it is possible, I may make more than one take:)

 Mareks_Trivium_WBT.mp3 ( 403.87K ) : 324


 Mareks_Trivium_NBT.mp3 ( 403.87K ) : 259


EDIT: uploaded slightly corrected version.

Posted by: superize Oct 20 2010, 09:19 PM

Great take Marek

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 20 2010, 09:20 PM

it's great you are in guys

great take Marek, and yes, you can make another one

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Oct 20 2010, 09:22 PM

Thanks Isac and Lian, means a lot:) I uploaded a slightly corrected version, because one slide wasn't what I wanted.

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 20 2010, 09:34 PM

cool, I just downloaded the new ones!

Posted by: MigeZ Oct 20 2010, 11:31 PM

Count me in Lian I'm gonna try something fast and hope that it's not out of my league

Posted by: Crazy_Diamond Oct 21 2010, 12:54 AM

Too bad that I am so busy at work.... I'm not a metal guy but I love that lesson so much... I might give it a try near the deadline.

Between Great takes guys..

Posted by: NoSkill Oct 21 2010, 03:03 AM

Hey Lian,

I'll take a run at it. I'm in!

Tom

Posted by: Jitty Oct 21 2010, 03:07 AM

Hey Lian, this collab is awesome, the riff is amazing. I gave it a shot, here's my take:

 Trivium_Collab.mov ( 22.31MB ) : 196

Posted by: Christophe Oct 21 2010, 03:19 AM

Ok I'll do my best then ^^ I'm in, from now on I work on Minor Scales and Harmonic because I like harmonic scale ^^

I must buy a USB type B to record myself with my new Gear =)

So : Stay Clossss as you would say ahah ;D


PS : Marek, I can feel your Skill-inside ! LoL Really nice solo !

Posted by: emirb Oct 21 2010, 08:07 AM

Hi Lian, this BT is great, count me in! Hopefully I'll come up with something over this upcoming weekend!

@supersize - nice solo!
@jitty, sounds to me like you record directly through some distortion into your soundcard, do you have anything that simulates an amp? If you are handyman:) PM and I can help you build very simple Marshall cab sim that sounds great, it will bring your dirt tone into sonic heaven!

Posted by: Christophe Oct 21 2010, 08:37 AM

Help please !

Is this a full A Minor Scale ?




So I can play the whole notes written ?


If it's not the case, please gimme an another picture ! Thanks a lot

Posted by: superize Oct 21 2010, 08:58 AM

Check out this site.

http://all-guitar-chords.com/

Here you got all the scales

Posted by: Christophe Oct 21 2010, 09:15 AM

Wow Oo I've never seen a such quantity of different scales xD

Thanks a lot ! That'll be a big help in my musical development

Posted by: Jitty Oct 21 2010, 10:46 AM

Hey Emir, I'm actually using a POD XT live, I downloaded Marcus Lavendell's tone from GMC and I was using that. Should I turn down the gain or volume or something, does it sound too distorted?

Posted by: emirb Oct 21 2010, 12:16 PM

hi Jitty, I guess the dirt in the tone is just fine, but was thinking if there you can fiddle with direct out settings/amp sim. It seems that you get some treble freq out with tend to sound harsh. But what is harsh to me someone else might like so this is just my opinion, I'm definitely not judging! Pod XT is certainly capable of producing any kind of tone so you can probably test around the amp sim section. If you open your recorded solo track in some audio editor (sound forge, cool edit etc.) and cut/filter out everything above 4 KHz - listen to that and check it out if you like it more or maybe not. Basically you don't get higher frequencies from amp speaker, but distortion can 'produce' higher order harmonics (that are even more multiplied proportional to the gain) that to me sounds harsh.

maybe you can test a bit and get back with some impressions?

@supersize, this site recomendation is invaluable! exactly what I've needed and been too lazy to find on my own:)

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 21 2010, 04:21 PM

awesome man! welcome!



well man, there's time until 5th November, hope you find the time!



cool man!!! welcome!



great to have you here Jitty, I'm downloading your file. please, add a file which contains only your solo, without bt.




awesome man!!! welcome!!




cool man, looking forward your take

@ Jitty: man, great skills dude!!! just one thing, you have to tune your guitar one step down! you play the whole solo in another tuning. so, you can tune your guitar as I mentioned in the main post, or, in case you cannot tune your guitar to one step down, you should play all the solo one fret back.
let me know if you need any help on this.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 21 2010, 04:39 PM

The lesson is fantastic so I'm sure that this collab will be epic! Can't wait to hear the final mix!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 21 2010, 04:56 PM

thanks a lot Gab!!!

Posted by: Jitty Oct 21 2010, 10:46 PM

Haha wow that was a silly mistake. Here's another take in the right tuning:



 Trivium_Collab_no_BT.mp3 ( 446.86K ) : 187

 Trivium_Collab_w_BT.mp3 ( 462.78K ) : 186

Posted by: Christophe Oct 21 2010, 10:56 PM

Imo. you should play with more feeling, but technically this is a good performance.


NB : I say that but I couldn't do better ^^ Take this like a youtube-style-comment =)

Posted by: Crazy_Diamond Oct 21 2010, 11:26 PM

Thanks for this link superize this is awesome

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Oct 22 2010, 09:54 AM

I'll post my take later today, I ended up listening to The Dark side of the Moon for the first time... been some 2 and a half hours and I can't stop listening.

So I'm just going to have to listen to it as long as I have to. But I'll try to post it today!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 22 2010, 01:31 PM

awesome man!!




cool man, looking forward your take!

Posted by: emirb Oct 23 2010, 03:45 AM

Hi, here comes my contribution, hope you like it and can make some use of it. Once again this BT sounds awesome!

Video:



solo with BT:
 liam_collab_mix_with_BT.wav ( 4.3MB ) : 192


solo without the BT:
 liam_collab_solo_without_BT.wav ( 4.3MB ) : 179


Cheers!
Emir B.

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Oct 23 2010, 07:37 AM

You got some neat skills Emirb \m/

Posted by: kaznie_NL Oct 23 2010, 03:13 PM

Niiiiiiiicceeee!!! Cool job man! I like the backing Lian, I'm going to take a shot as well if you don't mind It's planned for tonight!

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Oct 24 2010, 03:24 PM

Here's my first take... I might do another one, since this isn't really that good and I think the backing should be much louder.



What do you guys think?

Posted by: WeePee Oct 24 2010, 03:46 PM

Sounds OK, but I can hear your breathing and some other noises there

I haven't got any ideas of a solo yet..frustrating

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Oct 24 2010, 03:53 PM

Haha, I guess the whole audio's a bit too messy. Ok, we'll call that a preview and I'll post a better take with a better audio as soon as I can!

EDIT: By the way, great takes from everyone! Especially Emirb completely nailed this one!

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Oct 24 2010, 04:34 PM

Krystian, as You said the backing should be louder, but otherwise I like it:)

Posted by: emirb Oct 24 2010, 05:37 PM

Nice solo there Kristian! any chance you can record in some daw? I think it will sound even better, specially in the final mix, and thanks for the comments (and Marek too!)

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 26 2010, 05:12 PM

awesome!




very welcome man!!!



great playing man! when you upload the new take, do not forget to upload a take without bt.

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Oct 26 2010, 05:35 PM

Here is another rough one:)
 Marek_2_Trivium_NBT.mp3 ( 404.68K ) : 376

 Marek_2_Trivium_WBT.mp3 ( 404.68K ) : 395


\m/

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 26 2010, 05:39 PM

awesome man

Posted by: Christophe Oct 27 2010, 04:55 AM

Yeah man, that rockx !! This is tipically what kind of solo I love really Nice take !


All of you inspired me, I think this time I got it ! Record soon

Posted by: kaznie_NL Oct 29 2010, 06:57 PM

I need some honest feedback on this one, what do you guys think? I might do another Cool backing!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Oct 31 2010, 01:51 PM

really like it man!!! bends are simply awesome!

Posted by: NoSkill Nov 1 2010, 02:36 PM

My take sucked. I'll try and pick it apart tonight and submit something worthy of this collab. Sorry Lian, after listening to mine again, it's full of timing errors and is a hodge podge of crap.

Tom

Posted by: thefireball Nov 1 2010, 03:17 PM

oh my! I need to get on this take. I've been busy with school. I need to hurry.

Posted by: Mate Nagy Nov 1 2010, 03:58 PM

Nice take man'

It sounds too be a cool sounding collab . . .

Posted by: kaznie_NL Nov 2 2010, 09:48 PM

different version, the main part is done in one take Hope you like it, please pick one or use both, I let it up to you

Posted by: NoSkill Nov 3 2010, 04:22 AM

A better yet somewhat safer effort for your consideration. The last one hit the trash can.

http://www.box.net/shared/6grbcci13r
http://www.box.net/shared/epf29m5ihp

Cheers!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 3 2010, 01:47 PM

hey man, I cannot download your takes. I don't know why. could you please upload them using the attachment mode?

Posted by: NoSkill Nov 3 2010, 02:11 PM

 Lian_Trivium_Collab_WithBT.mp3 ( 1.13MB ) : 191

 Lian_Trivium_Collab_NoBT.mp3 ( 1.13MB ) : 146

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 3 2010, 02:18 PM

awesome! thanks

Posted by: thefireball Nov 3 2010, 07:08 PM

NoSkill, you are sooooo awesome!! Loved the harmony.

Posted by: NoSkill Nov 3 2010, 09:45 PM

\m/ Pretty safe contribution, but thanks for the compliment. \m/

Posted by: Marek Rojewski Nov 3 2010, 10:20 PM

Safe or not it sounds !@#% \m/

Posted by: Gitarrero Nov 4 2010, 09:44 AM

Hi Lian,

this is my first recording after many weeks (you all know the reason), but I guess I still got some skills left...looking forward for the next collab, how about a Blind Guardian one?

Christian

btw, remember that Shirt and the dulche de leche?

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 4 2010, 05:07 PM

yes I remember! and I think at least the Dulce de Leche would be a nice companion to stay with. I will PM you when I come back home.

great take man! thanks for finding time to this.


To everybody:
since many takes are not uploaded yet, I will extend the dead-line until next Monday (8 Nov) so, you got all the weekend to rec your takes.
also, if anybody wants to record a second or a third take is also welcome!

thanks everybody

Posted by: Christophe Nov 4 2010, 06:38 PM

Luv you I was hanging around to say that I could not upload a rec before the deadline, but now it's on !!

I think my solo will be pretty much better that all my takes I did in the past (using DAW, skill has uped, etc..) !

C u soon

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 4 2010, 06:44 PM

awesome man! looking forward your take

Posted by: Gitarrero Nov 6 2010, 03:04 PM

Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it. Lookign forward to your PM, hopefully I'll get that Dulce de Leche before new year's eve so I can make some Flan for my friends...

Posted by: thefireball Nov 7 2010, 05:31 AM

I stink at improvising solos. Don't expect a heck of a performance.
I tried several times to get this right. I basically had to write the solo and still messed up somewhat.

You guys rock! I guess I'm just a riffer and not a soloer.

TheFireball goes up in flames!!

Had to turn down the quality so the flames would track better - and unfortunately you can't turn down the intensity.

Posted by: SirJamsalot Nov 7 2010, 07:25 AM

with the exception of that last slurred note, your solo was spot on. I mean it was tasteful and aggressive and fit the backing track perfect. Great job.

Posted by: Gitarrero Nov 7 2010, 09:38 AM

Awesome take, fireball!
Which porgram did you use for the flames?

Posted by: thefireball Nov 7 2010, 07:53 PM

Thanks guys! I used my Dell Webcam Central. It's the program that came with my computer to make my webcam work. It has a whole lot of visual and audio effects. Yeah, that last slurred note really bothered me, but I didn't feel like re-recording it after about 20 takes.

Posted by: Gitarrero Nov 7 2010, 08:00 PM

Awesome, I haven't found that effect on the Dell webcam central...gotta check it out when my new laptop arrives on tuesday!
Thanks fireball!

Posted by: thefireball Nov 7 2010, 08:08 PM

No problem. It will be on the Effects Tab. Click Video Effects (the movie reel with a lightning bolt through it). You'll see drop down list that will by default probably say 'Scenes'. You'll want to click that and change it to filters. It will be the second effect. That's how it looks on my computer.
Have fun!

Posted by: MigeZ Nov 7 2010, 08:53 PM

Sadly I have to skip this one, been too busy lately
Cheers

Posted by: tmrock Nov 8 2010, 12:29 PM

Hi folks

I joined the community one week before, found last Fri this collab and want to say this way “hallo” to everybody.

After listening the BT, shot a solo and then stripped it down to the min in order to be able to play it again, then played the solo for 10 times in a row and cut a take, basically one hour job. I have not polished the track, nor adjusted the sound to match.
If I submitted in time and you will consider it ok form a complexity, play and technical point of view, I’m happy to contribute.

[attachment=22222:tmrock_L...bSolo_BT.wav]

[attachment=22223:tmrock_L...llabSolo.wav]

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 8 2010, 02:05 PM

AWESOME!!!



it's ok man, next time



awesome take man! welcome to your first collab, I also see that this was your very first post in the forums! I feel honoured!

Posted by: WeePee Nov 8 2010, 02:38 PM

Yes, now I can finally submit my take. I had some troubles with Paypal and GMC subscription. But now it's okay.

So here it is...

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 8 2010, 02:42 PM

hi Kristian, I'm needing your takes, one with BT and one without BT.




awesome!!!

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 9 2010, 01:58 PM

I'm so glad to hear that man you will learn for sure man! the only thing you need is: to want it!
think about this:
you are now 42, and may you need... let's say 3 years to reach a proper level to play everything you hear in your head.
so, you can work very hard on your playing during these years, and then when you are 45 will receive the prize!
or just say "it's too late to learn" and these 3 years will pass anyway. so, it's your choice, your creation. in 3 years you could be mastering an instrument or not, but time will pass anyway!

hope this will encourage you

Posted by: Lian Gerbino Nov 11 2010, 04:15 PM

just a little update: I'm already mixing your takes guys

Posted by: NoSkill Nov 11 2010, 04:37 PM

Posted by: WeePee Dec 1 2010, 03:48 PM

Hey Lian have you mixed these yet ?

Posted by: Kristian Hyvarinen Dec 5 2010, 11:45 AM

Lian, I'm so sorry for not being active here! It just happened that some crazy stuff started going on with my life and at the same time I lost my internet connection, spent a month without. I also had some small problems with my account here, so I think you understand.

The sad thing is, at the moment I am unable to record anything, so I'm just going to have to drop out of this here collab. However, I will without doubt take part in future collaborations!

Posted by: thefireball Feb 3 2011, 11:11 PM

Any updates?