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Posted by: shredmaster1393 Nov 18 2009, 04:13 AM

hey guys, I have a friend that has played guitar for almost 1 year and practices an hour a day( what he told me) But i have played for 4 years and practice 3 hours . And everyday he says that he is more skilled than me( speed,technique, etc:)
So I tell him that he can't be better than me now. Then he says that he is a fast learner. How should i approach this ?

Posted by: Sollesnes Nov 18 2009, 04:23 AM

If you have never heard him play, then I don't see why you should believe him. smile.gif
But it doesn't really matter, does it? If you search around on youtube you can find many young guitarists that can play your head off, but it doesn't really matter... What matters is your music, your playing.
Your goal should be to play the music in your mind, not to play faster than anyone just for the sake of speed.

And also, in my experience, those who keep saying "I'm soo much better than you", usually aren't good at all.

If you are worried about your own playing, there is always room for improvement. And if it's about your learning methods, you can always explain it in detail, and we are all happy to help with as much as we can, I'm sure smile.gif

Posted by: shredmaster1393 Nov 18 2009, 04:25 AM

thanks

Posted by: kahall Nov 18 2009, 04:45 AM

Just say " Yeah, I know." and leave it at that.

Posted by: Gary Nov 18 2009, 05:01 AM

Sollesnes is correct. I see kids eight, nine years old on Youtube that are better than me.. and I am 45. More power to em! If I can learn something from them I am happy.

That being said, I will tell you the people I have run across that claim to be great at something are often times not. They may be good or even very good in one area but often lack overall skills or knowledge. The fact that this person feels it's necessary to inform you that they are better than you is sign of their own insecurity.

What I have learned in my life?..it's usually the quiet guy or girl in the corner that have the skills to pay the bills wink.gif

Do your own thing smile.gif

Gary

Posted by: Daniel Realpe Nov 18 2009, 05:01 AM

Worry about how you can make someone feel with your guitar,

I know it doesn't sound easy, but it's really what's important,

sometimes you only need a couple of notes,

and maybe a cool effect biggrin.gif

Posted by: Staffy Nov 18 2009, 05:49 AM

Funny, I know some of the absolutely most skilled musicians here in Sweden, and I've never heard none of them tlaking like that..... What we are talking bout is MUSIC, not sports or any other thing that can be easily measured. What counts in the end is the ability to transfer your message/feelings to the listener regardless of how You do it, which instrument You play or Your skill level. Daniel has a very good point here, there are some world-class guitar players that actually hasn't got any greater technical skills at all, but developed their own style and can make people absorb the way they feel. Go ahead and make Your own thing and don't listen to crap like this!!!!

//Staffay

Posted by: shredmaster1393 Nov 18 2009, 06:01 AM

THanks guys

Posted by: Darknodar123 Nov 18 2009, 09:21 AM

QUOTE (Staffy @ Nov 18 2009, 06:49 AM) *
Funny, I know some of the absolutely most skilled musicians here in Sweden, and I've never heard none of them tlaking like that..... What we are talking bout is MUSIC, not sports or any other thing that can be easily measured. What counts in the end is the ability to transfer your message/feelings to the listener regardless of how You do it, which instrument You play or Your skill level. Daniel has a very good point here, there are some world-class guitar players that actually hasn't got any greater technical skills at all, but developed their own style and can make people absorb the way they feel. Go ahead and make Your own thing and don't listen to crap like this!!!!

//Staffay



+1

Exactly smile.gif

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Nov 19 2009, 12:14 AM

Once again, music is an art, there isn't a path where you can go and measure who is better. Making music is about being creative, making an art of playing the instrument, and doing it so you can express yourself, your emotions and view on the world around you.

Bottom line - keep practicing, and stop comparing.

Posted by: Marc_Maiden Nov 19 2009, 12:21 AM

oh god...i dont understand how some people can be so ignorant.



the fact that you keep your cool and ego under control makes you a better guitar player already

Posted by: Frederik Nov 19 2009, 12:33 AM

This guy is your friend? :S
In my book friends support each other

Posted by: mhskeide Nov 19 2009, 01:12 AM

wow....your friend sounds a bit like a douche, or maybe he just wants to mess with you?

Maybe a bit of the topic, but it reminds me of the famous topic; who is the best guitar player?
When people say Jimi is better than Petrucci because he plays with feelings, or that Herman Li is better than Eric Clapton because he`s faster, I just say while remaining as serious as possible: "seriously, I think I am the best guitar player there is". Always fun to watch people`s reactions laugh.gif

Posted by: Fran Nov 19 2009, 04:42 PM

QUOTE (shredmaster1393 @ Nov 18 2009, 04:13 AM) *
How should i approach this ?


You don't smile.gif

Who cares who is the fastest player/learner?
The point is feeling good playing the songs you love, creating your own stuff, growing as a guitarist for the sake of it.

Those who play only to impress others will probably quit soon.

Posted by: MickeM Nov 19 2009, 06:01 PM

Congratulate him and pat his head, at a booooy.

But seriously, who cares who's better? Nothing you should need to discuss, guys. Just have fun!

Posted by: MirkoSchmidt Nov 19 2009, 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Sollesnes @ Nov 18 2009, 04:23 AM) *
If you have never heard him play, then I don't see why you should believe him. smile.gif
But it doesn't really matter, does it? If you search around on youtube you can find many young guitarists that can play your head off, but it doesn't really matter... What matters is your music, your playing.
Your goal should be to play the music in your mind, not to play faster than anyone just for the sake of speed.

And also, in my experience, those who keep saying "I'm soo much better than you", usually aren't good at all.

If you are worried about your own playing, there is always room for improvement. And if it's about your learning methods, you can always explain it in detail, and we are all happy to help with as much as we can, I'm sure smile.gif



yeah, im totally agree with you! couldnt say it better! (especially because of my bad english laugh.gif)
i have to remind me an that almost every day, because im 25 and im only playing for two years and there are so many kids and teens with skills that i`ll never reach...

Posted by: twist Nov 19 2009, 08:46 PM

So if skill would be proportional to time spent practising... Man, i would be a guitar god right now... smile.gif It is possible to play for 10+ years and be only moderately not-shit. smile.gif

Posted by: MirkoSchmidt Nov 19 2009, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (shredmaster1393 @ Nov 18 2009, 04:13 AM) *
How should i approach this ?



easy: show him Kris: cool.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odQb8ylYstg&feature=related

if he absolutly wants a battle about fast and good playing he can ask Kris for that! when he is faster than Kris he can make a video-response and we make him compliments and everybody is happy...
but that will not happen in the next few years i think... in my opinion kris is really very fast, arent he?

Posted by: Boson Nov 19 2009, 09:07 PM

As most of the guys here have said why worry about it, remember the story of the tortoise and the hare!

Posted by: MirkoSchmidt Nov 19 2009, 09:47 PM

QUOTE (Boson @ Nov 19 2009, 09:07 PM) *
As most of the guys here have said why worry about it, remember the story of the tortoise and the hare!



i dont know the story... mellow.gif

Posted by: Keilnoth Nov 19 2009, 10:08 PM

It's a fable.

Good read :
http://childhoodreading.com/Arthur_Rackham/Tortoise_and_the_Hare.html

Posted by: MirkoSchmidt Nov 19 2009, 10:19 PM

ah, ok thanks... yeah, i read that in german. now i remember...

Posted by: djohnneay Nov 19 2009, 11:01 PM

Who cares if you're better then anybody? I've also got a friend, making a big deal about this always comparing. I got to say, I'm a little tempted, but a bandmate of mine says the opposite (I'm nog good for the guitar, bladiebla, stuff like that) and I keep telling him he is better then me, just to cheer him up. It doesn't matter that I can alternate pick faster then him, because he can play Andy McKee stuff I'll never be able to pull off and he keeps criticizing my tabs, because most of the time he knows better tongue.gif

Posted by: dusty Nov 21 2009, 03:57 PM

as my mum used to say

self praise is no reccomendation

never worry about how others think how good they are nor try to compare your self against others, only look to others for inspiration if they are worthy of it, be true to yourself and it will all come together before you realise it. life is not a race niether is perfection in anything you do, it takes time.

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