Moving Across The Neck Among Scale Boxes
JohnMathew
Feb 28 2016, 01:29 PM
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Hi,

I have been practicing scales (Just diatonic open/closed shapes and pentatonic for Am) and I would liketo know how do you pratice the shifting of boxes along the neck. I mean, I can move verticaly in a scale box but it is really difficult for me to move horizontally using seconds, fourths, etc... along the neck across differnet scale positions.

Is there any way to improve this hability and any way to test the progress?

P.D: One idea that has come to mind is for example moving through the boxes taking tonics as a reference but for me it still is pretty difficult to move around using this trick.

Thanks.

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Kristofer Dahl
Feb 28 2016, 04:03 PM
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I try to not have a one-fit-all method for this - rather I try to find small "personal paths" around the scale boxes.

So if I were to learn from scratch, I would find a cool baking in Am, and then for the first day just stray from 1st position with these notes:



and maybe add the blues note:



I would not worry about covering any "big ground" just try to find some musical application of those 2-3 extra notes.

Later on (maybe a few days later) I might add these as well:

After that I have almost got two boxes covered, and I will have found musical way of going "in and out" of them - which is what matters:



Btw this question is a frequent one in my livestreams, perhaps you would like to join me in aprox. two hours? smile.gif I will announce it on the forum when I go live.

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JohnMathew
Feb 28 2016, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Feb 28 2016, 04:03 PM) *
I try to not have a one-fit-all method for this - rather I try to find small "personal paths" around the scale boxes.

So if I were to learn from scratch, I would find a cool baking in Am, and then for the first day just stray from 1st position with these notes:



and maybe add the blues note:



I would not worry about covering any "big ground" just try to find some musical application of those 2-3 extra notes.

Later on (maybe a few days later) I might add these as well:

After that I have almost got two boxes covered, and I will have found musical way of going "in and out" of them - which is what matters:



Btw this question is a frequent one in my livestreams, perhaps you would like to join me in aprox. two hours? smile.gif I will announce it on the forum when I go live.


I would really like to be there, but don't know if I will be at home at that time.

Cheers!

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Feb 28 2016, 09:58 PM
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Great question, great answer. smile.gif

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Try restricting yourself to two adjacent strings and working on ascending and descending licks

Here's something I quickly wrote out for you to see what I mean

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In school we learned the 5 box patterns on one string set. If you look the 5 patterns are all the same on each string set so when you learn to move up or down the neck on one string set the rest are the same, just besides string 2 and 3. There shifted one fret. It's very easy to learn to move all over the neck this way and before you know it you'll have all the 5 patterns memorized horizontally

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QUOTE (Georgia Rocker @ Mar 5 2016, 08:05 PM) *
In school we learned the 5 box patterns on one string set. If you look the 5 patterns are all the same on each string set so when you learn to move up or down the neck on one string set the rest are the same, just besides string 2 and 3. There shifted one fret. It's very easy to learn to move all over the neck this way and before you know it you'll have all the 5 patterns memorized horizontally


Thanks for that,
Any chance of some diagrams? Tricky to understand in words.
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If you look at the dark circles they are the boxes to memorize...There just 1 stringset of the pentatonic patterns horizontally. I put open circles on some of the lower notes to have a reference where the patterns lay....can you see the same pattern on the top string set as the bottom stingset, just a different box shifted over. Same as the middle string set.


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Thanks,

I can kind of see what you're saying, don't really understand though.

I'll investigate further, thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE (Georgia Rocker @ Mar 5 2016, 09:34 PM) *
If you look at the dark circles they are the boxes to memorize...There just 1 stringset of the pentatonic patterns horizontally. I put open circles on some of the lower notes to have a reference where the patterns lay....can you see the same pattern on the top string set as the bottom stingset, just a different box shifted over. Same as the middle string set.


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I posted something very similar to this a while back, maybe it'll help some of you too!

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=52237

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QUOTE (Socky42 @ Mar 8 2016, 03:16 AM) *
I posted something very similar to this a while back, maybe it'll help some of you too!

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=52237




Yes thats the same way I learned but it was with the pentatonic 2 notes per string. It helped me master the pentatonic easy and to never get lost on the neck...I always know where am and whichever direction I want to move. I havent applied it to the major or minor scale but tried once but couldn't get the 2 note per string to work out...I didn't think about 3 notes per string..I'll have to try this and get the minor scale memorized this way...Thanks

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