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Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 5 2011, 10:56 PM
Sep 5 2011, 10:56 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Alrighty ladies and DJENTlemen since there's always been some questions here and there regarding the djent current, I thought I had to start this thread and post as many info in here as possible about this most interesting hybrid so..... What is DJENT? Djent is a heavy metal subgenre, inspired by the band Meshuggah (and I must add Devin Townsend, as Meshuggah only came with the heavy stuff, but all the melodic side came from Devin) and developed through the internet. The word "djent" is an onomatopoeia for a heavily palm-muted, distorted guitar chord. Typically, the word is used to refer to music that makes use of this sound, to the sound itself, or to the scene that revolves around it. Who are these DJENTlemen everybody's talking about? Meshuggah are being thought of as the fathers of djent, and, here are the bands and musicians considered to have instigated the birth of the modern djent scene: Periphery, TesseracT, Vildhjarta, Benea Reach, Chimp Spanner, and the now defunct band Fellsilent. Some progressive metal bands have some similar characteristics and are also sometimes referred to as djent - these include Textures, Veil of Maya, Animals as Leaders, Monuments, After the Burial, The Contortionist, Mnemic, Threat Signal, The Acacia Strain and Meshuggah themselves. more to come soon You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Cosmin Lupu: Sep 6 2011, 07:05 AM -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 03:44 AM
Sep 6 2011, 03:44 AM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	Well said It started as a way to describe palm muting heavy chunky syncopated rythms and has somehow morphed in to being a full on description and even used as a Genre term now. Despite many of the originators of the term,( including the guys from periphery who first started saying it way back when to describe pickup tone "do those pickups djent?") insisting it is not a genre. Language evolves around us and takes on it's own meaning over time and despite their best wishes, Djent is in fact widely considered to be it's own Sub Genre of Metal right along with many others like Death, Melodic Death, Symphonic Death, Metal Core, Grind Core, Blast, and now Djent You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

El Fortinero View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 04:55 AM
Sep 6 2011, 04:55 AM	GMC:er Posts: 359 Joined: 4-June 11 From: Argentina	mmm what about Fear Factory? i thought they were the ones that iniciates this style (not as we know it today), i mean of course it has mutated a lot since the 80' (?) what about haunted shores?, i saw the guitarist playing amazing guitar chords, very very weird still waiting the Periphecy or djent style lesson You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- WWW.GROOVERMETAL.COM.AR

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 07:08 AM
Sep 6 2011, 07:08 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 6 2011, 02:44 AM) Well said It started as a way to describe palm muting heavy chunky syncopated rythms and has somehow morphed in to being a full on description and even used as a Genre term now. Despite many of the originators of the term,( including the guys from periphery who first started saying it way back when to describe pickup tone "do those pickups djent?") insisting it is not a genre. Language evolves around us and takes on it's own meaning over time and despite their best wishes, Djent is in fact widely considered to be it's own Sub Genre of Metal right along with many others like Death, Melodic Death, Symphonic Death, Metal Core, Grind Core, Blast, and now Djent Hey Todd! you are very right indeed - I modified the post it is indeed a sub-genre of metal, the youngest one I believe QUOTE (El Fortinero @ Sep 6 2011, 03:55 AM) mmm what about Fear Factory? i thought they were the ones that iniciates this style (not as we know it today), i mean of course it has mutated a lot since the 80' (?) what about haunted shores?, i saw the guitarist playing amazing guitar chords, very very weird still waiting the Periphecy or djent style lesson It'll come mate don't worry as for Fear Factory, I think they too had a great influence on the style, but somehow people tend to neglect that....I never understood why either You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 07:41 AM
Sep 6 2011, 07:41 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	To prove Nahuel's words, here's Fear Factory (note that this was happening back in 1995): You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Cosmin Lupu: Sep 6 2011, 07:41 AM -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 03:22 PM
Sep 6 2011, 03:22 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Wou, I haven't heard FF in a long time, awesome Cosmin, how bout some cool djent lesson? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Daniel Realpe View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 03:53 PM
Sep 6 2011, 03:53 PM	Instructor Posts: 5.655 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Bogota	I think death metal is a big influence on this style too. This song has some djent on it! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Daniel Realpe: Sep 6 2011, 03:59 PM -------------------- Visit my: INSTRUCTOR PROFILE "If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music." Gustav Mahler Subscribe to my Youtube Channel here

Narzsa View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 03:54 PM
Sep 6 2011, 03:54 PM	GMC:er Posts: 84 Joined: 9-May 11	QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 6 2011, 03:22 PM) Wou, I haven't heard FF in a long time, awesome Cosmin, how bout some cool djent lesson? And some fear factory lessons cant go wrong there You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Current Setup: Dean VMNT1 Boss GT10 ENGL Screamer 50 watt Combo \m/

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 06:27 PM
Sep 6 2011, 06:27 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	Great posts Cosmin! I knew all this bands... I also note that they are a natural evolution of previous styles like Death, Trash, Industrial. However I have discovered the word "Djent" some days ago here at the forum. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Sinisa Cekic View Member Profile	Sep 6 2011, 09:24 PM
Sep 6 2011, 09:24 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.649 Joined: 15-October 08 From: Belgrade,Serbia	What a ?! Lad(ies) genre is skipped !?! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons My FaceBook My Band FaceBook

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 09:05 AM
Sep 8 2011, 09:05 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	I will most definitely make up a Djent lesson! time to put the ol' brainer to work As I was saying, Devin Townsend had a huge influence over djent bands, in respect to the fact that he brought the melodic feel and the spaciness of the style - when I say spaciness, I mean that djent sounds 'very big' usually and this is given in a big part by the fact that djent bands use layering as a song orchestrating technique. Layering - technique used in orchestration which adds vertical layers of different instrument tracks, in order to create a huge wall of sound. This is a song dating from 1998, found on Devin Townsend's album called 'Infinity' - you may hear the djent roots sprouting in here You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 09:30 AM
Sep 8 2011, 09:30 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Sounds very interesting, although the guitar tones need to be more djenty on this one. But very nice point on layering You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 09:33 AM
Sep 8 2011, 09:33 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 8 2011, 08:30 AM) Sounds very interesting, although the guitar tones need to be more djenty on this one. But very nice point on layering well, Devin was responsible with the melodic part from the final mix which evolved over the years You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 03:48 PM
Sep 8 2011, 03:48 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	That's a great concept! It sounds great in studio albums but it must be difficult to create it live. How do the do Cosmin? Do they play over some tracks? Do the use many musicians live? or they use loop pedals? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 04:15 PM
Sep 8 2011, 04:15 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	It's difficult to create that sound on stage yeah, I think they use some processing power, in combination with good hi gain amps. The sound cannot be that rigid live tho, as the space lets the sound "breathe" and dissipates a bit. My guess is that they try to keep it as tight as it can be You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 8 2011, 04:31 PM
Sep 8 2011, 04:31 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 8 2011, 03:15 PM) It's difficult to create that sound on stage yeah, I think they use some processing power, in combination with good hi gain amps. The sound cannot be that rigid live tho, as the space lets the sound "breathe" and dissipates a bit. My guess is that they try to keep it as tight as it can be I know for certain that a lot of these folks use tracks on stage creating that wall of sound over which the and itself plays the instruments. I used to do that with my first band - Evo. Not at that level of course, but we used tracks over which we played that's the recipe usually, or a very elaborate crew that can recreate a lot of sounds live that can also be an option You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 03:58 AM
Sep 9 2011, 03:58 AM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 8 2011, 12:31 PM) I know for certain that a lot of these folks use tracks on stage creating that wall of sound over which the and itself plays the instruments. I used to do that with my first band - Evo. Not at that level of course, but we used tracks over which we played that's the recipe usually, or a very elaborate crew that can recreate a lot of sounds live that can also be an option yeah, that's a good trick. I use tracks with Cirse live for the electronic arrangements. We use an ipod for it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

Nihilist1 View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 05:23 AM
Sep 9 2011, 05:23 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 977 Joined: 1-September 11 From: Chino Hills, California	I know that this is metal, and I love metal more than the next guy; but I think that a melodic band that really helped people understand how to layer their tracks(in modern times) is Circa Survive. I can't think of a track that doesn't have a lot of layers. The track that I think stands out the most is 'House of Leaves'. However, they layer the hell out of every single song. They recreate every effect live, though. It seems that delay really can create a wall of luscious noises to get lost in. They do it all without losing a single ounce of guitar tone too! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... Grandfather elk Turned to me And spoke: Light the fire deep inside. Light the fires!

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 07:39 AM
Sep 9 2011, 07:39 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	QUOTE (Nihilist1 @ Sep 9 2011, 04:23 AM) I know that this is metal, and I love metal more than the next guy; but I think that a melodic band that really helped people understand how to layer their tracks(in modern times) is Circa Survive. I can't think of a track that doesn't have a lot of layers. The track that I think stands out the most is 'House of Leaves'. However, they layer the hell out of every single song. They recreate every effect live, though. It seems that delay really can create a wall of luscious noises to get lost in. They do it all without losing a single ounce of guitar tone too! WOW! Dude! You know Circa Survive!!:D I thought I was the only person listening to those guys! They are so great! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

Nihilist1 View Member Profile	Sep 9 2011, 08:06 AM
Sep 9 2011, 08:06 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 977 Joined: 1-September 11 From: Chino Hills, California	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Sep 9 2011, 06:39 AM) WOW! Dude! You know Circa Survive!!:D I thought I was the only person listening to those guys! They are so great! I am an hour away from Los Angeles XD. I make it a point to see most of the bands that come through here. I remember when Anthony Green was singing for Saosin. Believe it or not, Beau Burchell(singer and rhythm guitarist) lives down the street from my dad! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Nihilist1: Sep 9 2011, 08:06 AM -------------------- All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... All the elders have fallen down... Heal her now... Grandfather elk Turned to me And spoke: Light the fire deep inside. Light the fires!

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