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Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 9 2009, 01:21 AM
When I first heard why the world was supposed to end I actually thought it was quite pathetic. History Channel and other channels have about 100 specials a day on this, So I looked it up and on december 21st, 2012, when the sun rises above the horizon the earth and sun will line up with the center of galaxy......And thats all they got. This happens roughly every 25,800 years. Given earth has been around for approximately 4.5 billion years, this event has happened about 1774186 times and there is no evidence of the world ending that many times, (I would think there would be some).
Just had to vent this, It frustrates me for some reason.
PS
Excuse me if my math is bad 
But its pretty close
PPS
I do however give the Mayans credit for having an impossibly accurate calendar
PPPS
I also know that alot of other things are supposed to happen in 2012, like the world be shown psychic connection and a "nossphere" will be created, Something my Physics teacher told me that sounded cool. A connection of all human thought or something.
Posted by: skennington Jan 9 2009, 01:28 AM
Thought this to be kind of crazy but at the same time a bit intriguing as well. The Mayan calender ends and were suppose to believe the world will too... We had a bit of discussion a while back and I think the general consensus was that it's not going to happen.. 
Still a nice read though..
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=22102&hl=2012
Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 9 2009, 01:32 AM
I searched 2012 on GMC and didnt get anything, I had to of mistyped it, Now I feel weird
Posted by: skennington Jan 9 2009, 01:34 AM
Done that quite a few times myself man..
I would still love to hear what some of the newer members think about this topic.
Posted by: Fsgdjv Jan 9 2009, 01:41 AM
Yes I believe that there will be a year 2012.
Edit: How can you get a cool reason for edit like that?
Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 9 2009, 02:11 AM
When you do edit, at the bottom it should say "Reason For Edit". It might be only Mods have it, Im not sure.
Posted by: Enucleation Jan 9 2009, 04:18 AM
Yeah I'm quite positive that the 2012 thing is false.
Mainly I believe this is false because of religion. But even still the whole idea of it seems dumb
Posted by: Dreamcatcher Jan 9 2009, 04:32 AM
At the rate this world is going...im thinking 2011 lol lets hope things get better in the world and maybe we may make it to 2012 to find out. Nah I think we will be around for a little longer than that actually but i can see why people get distressed over those types of programs. My fiance was the same way when i was watching it and she was listening from across the room.
Posted by: utak3r Jan 9 2009, 09:02 AM
Hey, since I live on this earth, I've passed over three dates of worlds end already 
So take it easy I'm still living...
Posted by: Crazyfret Jan 9 2009, 09:10 AM
Obviously Rush don't believe it ...thats how come they wrote 2112 cause they travelled forward in time and found out that the guitar was an instrument of evil according to the Priests at the Temple of Syrinx! 
Posted by: Canis Jan 9 2009, 10:29 AM
Well, they've been wrong so far. But when it comes to the end of the world, you only need to be right once, right?
The Mayans believed that the world "as we know is" will end. Something with Ether...
Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 9 2009, 10:42 AM
Not much of a believer myself either. As you said it yourself, these things have occured numorous times. Besides that, much of this has evolved through religion and faith in the aforementioned. I'm not much into believing in religion and such, but take the science approach.
Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 9 2009, 12:18 PM
I think the Rush idea is the most solid and believable, And that sentenced has no biased elements in it, I swear
I still have some friend who believe the 2012 thing, Even though they have no idea who the mayans or nostradamus or anyone else who predicted it are.
Posted by: Trond Vold Jan 9 2009, 12:48 PM
Personally i think it's a load of nonsense 
The event that occurs on 21-12 2012 has as mentioned before happened quite a number of times before, but the planet is still intact.
Posted by: jer Jan 9 2009, 01:08 PM
Yeah. Everyone thought there would be all kinds of problems on 01/01/01. All the machines would stop working. Total chaos.....
And that was all related to man's doing. No cosmic alignment or anything....
If anyone can destroy the world its man.
And he didnt do it then.
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 9 2009, 01:40 PM
Depends how you look at it actually. I don't think the world will end, we will simply go into another age. New Age.
Posted by: ztevie Jan 9 2009, 01:41 PM
Yeah, mankind hardly need any help exterminating themselves?
We're pretty much doomed already, just because of our own stupidity. And if we can't kill ourselfes soon enough, it's just a matter of time before incurable disease, nuclear war, asteroid to come crashing down or us destroying the environment making the earth impossible to live on?
If you think about it, how long have man existed rally? If I remember right, someone said that if the life of earth is 24 hours, mankind has been around 1 second... So why should we "live forever"?
So just play yer guitars, and wait for the day of doom, and remember to play only the minor scales, they fit better than those jolly, happy major ones some use...
Posted by: Wabba Jan 9 2009, 01:46 PM
I don't believe that.
Homever every human race that has ever existed on earth, has survived 200,000 years. And our race has existed almost 200,000 years...
Anyway, I still don't care. If we are doomed it's because of ourselves, not because some ancient calendar says so.
Posted by: Sensible Jones Jan 9 2009, 01:49 PM
If the World ends on 21/12/2012 I'll eat my hat the Day Afterwards!!!
Posted by: Fran Jan 9 2009, 01:51 PM
I don't believe it because there's no convincing scientific prove backing the whole theory, beisdes we've seen these doom stories in the past, and they weren't true (luckily ), as when people said that the world would end in 1999, then 2000, then 2001... now it's 2012...
I bet in 2014 they'll say the world will end in 2025
And for our own good, I hope they are wrong 
Posted by: Daniel Robinson Jan 9 2009, 02:02 PM
I just think the whole thing is hoo-haa.
My only 2 cents on the subject is to point out that the Mayans calender and the Mayan thinking in general is cyclic.
Yes their calender is undeniably accurate, but from a cosmic point of view i just think that when that date occurs it is just the "End of the cycle". Their whole philosphy and culture is based on themes that re-occur. This lining up with the center of the galaxy is just the summation of the cycle.
Now from a scientific standpoint, we know that humans are effected by magnetic fields, and more than probably more effected by them then we know at this point.
I have always thought that this lining up could have an effect on the human brain and as we approach this time of apex i have a theory that it is effecting humans in a certain way.
Course that just my tilt on it.
Daniel
Posted by: BTrian Dec 12 2012, 02:16 AM
so with all the Christmas posts flooding around what about reanimating this topic?
so what's your plan for 21-12-2012
in any case don't miss to play that song
and does anyone know in which timezone the end of the world is going to take place?
Posted by: thefireball Dec 12 2012, 03:08 AM
I know this is an old thread, but I have heard the Mayan calendar doesn't actually end, it just is ready to start over like we do on Dec 31. Nevertheless, I don't believe we shall end this year. God will destroy this earth some day with fire. He tells us so in the Bible. Whether you believe it or not. This earth has at least 1000 years more, because God has to come and set up His kingdom first in Jerusalem.
Not intending to start a war here, just compelled to speak the truth is all.
Posted by: Patrik Berg Dec 12 2012, 03:38 AM
time will tell i suppose, as for the bible, nice story.
Posted by: Gitarrero Dec 12 2012, 07:25 PM
I was foolish enough to make plans for december 22...and the days that are following. These include a bunch of concerts. So the world must not end.
As for the 21. I am going to see an icehockey game with a few friends.
So if it's the end of the world, I'll have a beer in my hand, watching a manly sport
Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Dec 12 2012, 07:32 PM
My Birthday's at the DOOmsday ... so i don't really care
Same as Chris above, i'll have a beer in one hand, and a few in my belly already
Posted by: SirJamsalot Dec 12 2012, 07:44 PM
It's a sign!
Posted by: Sensible Jones Dec 12 2012, 08:11 PM
Well, as far as the Mayan Prophecy is concerned... They didn't have Leap Years so according to their calculations the world should have ended about 3 months ago!!!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 12 2012, 08:49 PM
I only think the world will end when there's an epic battle between Odin and Zeus to prove who's the most 'manliest' of Gods ! (Although that's an oxymoron anyway)
Odin will declare he's stronger but Zeus will insist that he's got the best abs.... seriously, when that shiz goes down you'd better be ready..
Posted by: WeePee Dec 12 2012, 08:55 PM
Well if the world ends 21.12 and you don't have any money, now it's good time to get loads of bank loans. You'll have plenty of days to left party and see the world
But you'll have a hell of a payback time if it (world) wont end.
Posted by: SirJamsalot Dec 12 2012, 09:18 PM
The Mayans are wrong. The world already ended - the incorrect part of the prophecies was the "as we know it" portion. What happened was in 1999, the world was invaded by martians, who quickly stole our bodies to use as a food source, and plugged our disembodied brains into a vast network for research purposes. They erased the invasion from our memory and keep our experience and non-invasion memories in tact to study us. We are all disembodied brains living in a jar. Matrix had it kind of correct.
Posted by: jstcrsn Dec 13 2012, 02:22 AM
just in case the day before Ill have to talk my wife into,well you know
Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 13 2012, 04:56 AM
Well, looks like we are going to find out in about a week or so I"m guessing it will be like the y2k thing, mostly an excuse to scare folks and sell prepper goods.
Todd
My only 2 cents on the subject is to point out that the Mayans calender and the Mayan thinking in general is cyclic.
Yes their calender is undeniably accurate, but from a cosmic point of view i just think that when that date occurs it is just the "End of the cycle". Their whole philosphy and culture is based on themes that re-occur. This lining up with the center of the galaxy is just the summation of the cycle.
Now from a scientific standpoint, we know that humans are effected by magnetic fields, and more than probably more effected by them then we know at this point.
I have always thought that this lining up could have an effect on the human brain and as we approach this time of apex i have a theory that it is effecting humans in a certain way.
Course that just my tilt on it.
Daniel
Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 13 2012, 05:58 AM
I don't believe in it at all!
In Russia people are going crazy and expecting it to happen which is very funny! Here in America I barely hear about it unless I will turn on Discovery channel
Everything will be ok
Posted by: Dieterle Dec 13 2012, 09:36 AM
2012 is the Beginning of a New World !
The World of GREAT GUITAR PLAYERS is on the Rise and we GMC Freaks are all part of it !
Thanks to all our Mentor Gurus who will lead as on the way
Dieter
Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Dec 13 2012, 10:00 AM
In Russia people are going crazy and expecting it to happen which is very funny! Here in America I barely hear about it unless I will turn on Discovery channel
Everything will be ok
Don't be so sure...
Ancient Mayans can't be wrong...
Posted by: Timmy b Dec 13 2012, 02:37 PM
I dont belive any of these end of the world tales. But I did have a missed call yesterday.
Had to look twice at that one!
Posted by: WeePee Dec 13 2012, 03:53 PM
Had to look twice at that one!
Hah very funny indeed.
I read yesterday a story about this 12 year old girl who was born on 12.12.2000 at 12:12 !!
Posted by: SirJamsalot Dec 13 2012, 06:23 PM
I read yesterday a story about this 12 year old girl who was born on 12.12.2000 at 12:12 !!
might wanna edit out that phone number. This forum is browsed by the public. Who knows who that is
edit! oops, replied to the wrong person! haha. Meant to reply to Timmy b!
Posted by: Christophe Dec 14 2012, 04:15 PM
Humans are not physically able to know when and why there might be a world's end. The only thing they found is faith.
I'm not willing to be disrespectful in any kind of manner, so don't take it personnaly
Posted by: waynedcoville Dec 14 2012, 04:44 PM
Just had to vent this, It frustrates me for some reason.
PS
Excuse me if my math is bad
But its pretty closePPS
I do however give the Mayans credit for having an impossibly accurate calendar
PPPS
I also know that alot of other things are supposed to happen in 2012, like the world be shown psychic connection and a "nossphere" will be created, Something my Physics teacher told me that sounded cool. A connection of all human thought or something.
may not necessarily be an apocalypse but a change. its true the earth has been here for 4.5 billion years but in that time there has been a tremendous amount of geological upheaval, climactic calamities and mass extinctions. the earth will survive until the sun expands but life on the earth may change
http://documentaries-plus.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-earth-was-made.html
Posted by: Azzaboi Dec 14 2012, 06:50 PM
Mayans calendar doesn't predict the end of the world, it's the end of the world's life cycle.
Same with Nostradamus predictions, which have been very accurrate (a few hundred or so coming true).
The end of the world's life cycle could lead it the following:
1) Increase in Earthquakes and Volcano - land activities (check)
2) Increase in Tornados and Hurrances - wind activities (check)
3) Potential devastation from the sky
If you believe in Evolution:
1) Inhabitants may undergo a positive physical or spiritual transformation
2) Mankind might be wiped out like the dinosaurs
If you believe in the Bible (which actually has an extremely high prediction rate of coming true, with thousands of predictions in the past)- the prediction goes (translated):
1) Warning signs such as increase in natural disasters (check)
2) Potential devastation from the sky
3) Eclipses or block out of the sun (day will turn to darkness)
4) Moon turns blood red (this can be caused by an eclipse, pollution or dust from nuclear fallout in the earth's atmosphere)
5) Natural Eclipses (have already pasted for 2012)
6) Increased dividing between countries / increase in wars (check)
7) God will intervene before it is too late (mankind will almost wipe itself out on it's own freewill)
8) Worldwide will know about it
9) Increae in false prophets and coming of more anti-christs (check)
10) Increase in famines / dividing rich from poor (check)
11) Tribulation
12) The date of Judgement Day will be unknown, but penty of warning will be given (your a fool to attempt to predict it's date and fear it, however your also fool not to be ready for it)
13) There will be a new heaven and a new earth someday. The old earth will go through purification by fire (yet we don't need to fear). The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.
14) The increasing nuclear threat (check)
Posted by: snackajacks Dec 14 2012, 07:13 PM
I did some research on this and I can assure you nothing will happen , why ?
- Mayan calendar doesn't end, it just continues with 13.0.0.0.0, It just starts a new cycle.
- There are several allignments of planets , however this has happened before.
- Solarflames could be the cause but this but its a low chance. There are solarflames as of now. The only thing
that happens with large solar flames is that our wireless systems can malfunction.
- Some say the polars will turn around, guess what, no problem , we people can handle polar changes and our
body can handle this.
I am 100% sure that the world doesn't end in 2012, There are just people that will always say that the world is coming to and end,
They also said it in 2000. There are just people who need their attention.
Trust me
I am a designer
Posted by: Gitarrero Dec 15 2012, 11:53 AM
The world is not gonna end until Ben, Cosmin, Marc and I get together for a jam session.
That's a fact.
Mr. Guitartube told me.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 15 2012, 02:12 PM
That's a fact.
Mr. Guitartube told me.
True.. we've gotta make sure it doesn't happen
Posted by: Gitarrero Dec 15 2012, 04:59 PM
Yeah. But just think of the power we have now
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 15 2012, 05:58 PM
Well I think we could do a jam session with 3/4 of the mentioned people, but we can never allow the full 4 in the same room. If we do 3, then I think we can harness the right amount of power to rule the world....
We haven't hijacked this thread at all, no, no..
Posted by: Gitarrero Dec 15 2012, 06:08 PM
This isn't hijacking. It's just letting the people know to fear and probably worship us
So, a british dude, a dutch dude, a romanian dude and a german dude can never ever jam together (I didn't mean to make this Taylor Swift reference )
England, Holland, Romania and England...that's 3 great Football nations. And England!
Seriously, what was this thread all about?
Posted by: Sensible Jones Dec 15 2012, 06:17 PM
It was about the Mayans predicting the end of the World.................
Which will most likely happen if you 4 ever jam together, so not off topic at all!!!!
Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Dec 15 2012, 06:36 PM
Because of internet LAG
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 15 2012, 07:30 PM
Sounds like the beginning of a joke !
Posted by: Gitarrero Dec 15 2012, 07:49 PM
You're right!
Weren't you the one who was so great at inventing jokes? So go ahead!
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 15 2012, 08:24 PM
Weren't you the one who was so great at inventing jokes? So go ahead!
So, a british dude, a dutch dude, a romanian dude and a german dude walk into a bar.
Sausage Rolls.
No, doesn't quite work with this, does it ??
Posted by: waynedcoville Dec 17 2012, 12:46 PM
- Mayan calendar doesn't end, it just continues with 13.0.0.0.0, It just starts a new cycle.
- There are several allignments of planets , however this has happened before.
- Solarflames could be the cause but this but its a low chance. There are solarflames as of now. The only thing
that happens with large solar flames is that our wireless systems can malfunction.
- Some say the polars will turn around, guess what, no problem , we people can handle polar changes and our
body can handle this.
I am 100% sure that the world doesn't end in 2012, There are just people that will always say that the world is coming to and end,
They also said it in 2000. There are just people who need their attention.
Trust me
I am a designer
''- Some say the polars will turn around, guess what, no problem , we people can handle polar changes and our
body can handle this.''
on that date the Earth will pass through the galactic equator/plane. homo sapiens didnt exist last time that happened so we dont really know what will happen. but if it does cause a polar shift, think about the mechanics behind that. what causes our magnetosphere? its our iron core (a huge magnet). if that does an about face, it will cause huge geological upheavals. within the last decade or so the north pole actually has migrated 40 miles. there also has been increased geological and meteorological activity in the last decade.
Posted by: WeePee Dec 17 2012, 07:03 PM
Just found a new forecast 
Posted by: Socky42 Dec 19 2012, 07:54 PM
It's finally coming true...
Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 20 2012, 02:42 AM
In case you haven't seen it, here is my FAV 2012 "End of Days" vid Interesting and Scary at the same time. Makes for some great TV.
Posted by: Slavenko Erazer Dec 20 2012, 09:19 AM
ONLY 24 hours Left!!!! 
Would recommend this movie to watch before tomorrow
Posted by: HungryForHeaven Dec 20 2012, 11:04 AM
That's a fact.
Mr. Guitartube told me.
I guess we're one step closer to defining Armageddon.
Posted by: Ben Higgins Dec 20 2012, 11:26 AM
Nice pull !!
Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 20 2012, 10:28 PM
Well said!!!
Posted by: Sensible Jones Dec 21 2012, 12:56 PM
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/maya
Posted by: WeePee Dec 21 2012, 08:53 PM
Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 21 2012, 11:31 PM
That is just perfect!!!
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