Question About Sustain, And About Tone.
Davidian
Jan 8 2008, 09:29 PM
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Hi GMC!

I noticed lately my sustain isn't what it was when I bought my guitar (august). I seem to have less sustain, the notes don't hold as long as they used to...
Could it be that my guitar isn't set up properly?
Oh, I have to move my guitar every monday (parents are divorced), so maybe this is why my guitar's set up became worse?

And the second question I have is the next one...
I don't really like the paint job on my first guitar... It's just grey, nothing else.
So I'd like to paint some things on it, but what kind of paint can I use to paint on such kind of finish?
(Don't know if it's clear enough what I mean, I hope so)
Or maybe there are some alternatives instead of paint, like stickers... (You know, like they have for cars, but maybe a little smaller, suited for guitar)


Thanks!
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fatb0t
Jan 8 2008, 10:19 PM
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This might be a shot in the dark, but what type of guitar do you have?
Does it have active pickups?
---If so, the 9volt might be dead
also,
---When did you change your strings last?
---If all else fails crank the gain!

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Jan 8 2008, 11:01 PM
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I would guess that you need to get it set up. It might need a turn of the truss rod or a combo of several small things. It's hard to tell without looking at it but I would think that that would return your axe to its former glory.

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Jan 9 2008, 12:21 AM
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Take it to guitar repair shop, let them put new strings, and do a setup. Tell them about the problem and what you want to be fixed. If they don't get it fixed, then don't give them the money.

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Jan 9 2008, 02:57 AM
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Old strings have MUCH less sustain than newer strings. This is because metals become stiffer and more brittle the more times they elongate then return to normal (for example every single time you pluck the string). This is also why bridges are under-designed more often than not because most engineers forget that cyclical loading lowers steels yield strength over time even if the loading is only a fraction of what the steel can handle. If you haven't changed the strings yet do that and don't take it to the shop until you do (why waste money?).

Also, as far as paint and stickers are concerned just put whatever you want on the guitar man. It's yours so have fun with it! Personally, I like my guitars clean from stuff but otherwise who cares? If you don't care about the longevity of your guitar finish then it doesn't really matter. biggrin.gif

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Jan 9 2008, 11:01 AM
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In addition to the guitar, I wonder if you have changed your amp settings at all ? As I have found in the past the "wrong" settings can also have effect on how long the notes ring out smile.gif

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Davidian
Jan 9 2008, 02:32 PM
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Thanks guys!
It might be the strings... Haven't thought about that. Sorry!
I'll change 'em this weekend.

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Jan 9 2008, 11:01 AM) *
In addition to the guitar, I wonder if you have changed your amp settings at all ? As I have found in the past the "wrong" settings can also have effect on how long the notes ring out smile.gif

Yes, I have several saved settings on my amp, and I browsed almost all of the ones I frequently use, and I have this problem with every setting.
But thanks for mentioning! Maybe I'll need it later ^^

QUOTE (Hardtail @ Jan 9 2008, 02:57 AM) *
Also, as far as paint and stickers are concerned just put whatever you want on the guitar man. It's yours so have fun with it! Personally, I like my guitars clean from stuff but otherwise who cares? If you don't care about the longevity of your guitar finish then it doesn't really matter.

But if I paint on the body, won't the paint go off? I'm afraid the paint won't stick to the finish enough...

@ fatb0t: Ibanez VBT700... It has no active pick-ups.

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Jan 10 2008, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE (Davidian @ Jan 9 2008, 08:32 AM) *
But if I paint on the body, won't the paint go off? I'm afraid the paint won't stick to the finish enough...

@ fatb0t: Ibanez VBT700... It has no active pick-ups.

Thanks again for all the answers!
This proves again that GMC is a wonderful place! biggrin.gif


Thanks for the love man! smile.gif

If you use an Enamel paint it should stick no problem. If you are looking to paint the entire guitar I suggest fine sanding it first, then spraying a high quality automotive grade paint to the entire body followed by 1 or more clear coats. The more clear coats the glossier the look.

If you just wanna make it ugly like Van Halen's Frenkenstein then don't worry about what paint you use. And be sure to involve ducktape and markers as well wink.gif


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QUOTE (Davidian @ Jan 9 2008, 02:32 PM) *
Thanks guys!
It might be the strings... Haven't thought about that. Sorry!
I'll change 'em this weekend.


Yep,first strings than everything else biggrin.gif

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should change your strings atleast every month.. there is a sale on ernie ball strings 12 packs for (usd) $40.. cant beat that, ernie balls for me break by more then what i normally use, but they sound great... i always like GHS string for my tremolo guitars cause they harldy ever break with lots of abuse

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Davidian
Jan 11 2008, 09:29 PM
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Hmm, changed strings... Sustain has improved a little smile.gif
I think I'll check out all of the other solutions you gave. I have to days to do it now (weekend) biggrin.gif

And about the paint: never heard about it. I'll ask my dad ^^

@KloCkWorXx: I'll check out the sale biggrin.gif

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Jan 11 2008, 10:21 PM
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My recommendations for "painting" your guitar are 3 fold:

Sharpie (black is preferable, but you can use the blue/red/green if you like)
Silver paint pen
Gold paint pen

Keep in mind any finish you put on it isn't going to look like a professional finish unless you sand then coat and let dry for weeks/month, so if you can't be bothered to go through the trouble, why go through the trouble?

give some spray paint a try, that could be interesting.

Depending on the clearcoat, not much will stick.

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