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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 20 2009, 03:19 PM

Hey guys, I've decided it's enough of the blues from me for now, since I did two blues collabs recently. Now it's time for something completely different - nice and heavy metal collab!

This collaboration's name is "Metal Arpeggiator", and I would like from participants to include at least one arpeggiated lick or sequence in this one. It shouldn't be hard, since arpeggio comes in many shapes and sizes, and it is a pretty wide topic, so one arpeggiated lick should be really easy to do + it will definitely sound metal! The more you do the better in fact!

Anyone can join in, as always, and this is audio collab primarily, but if you want you can put your video on youtube. Final mix will be audio mix.
I've purposely created a bassy thick backing track with mids left intact so you can solo and make your guitar audible on this one. Just try to use a preset that has some degree of mids/treble involved and your take will cut great!

There's a backing bellow this text for you to check it out. If you decide you want to participate, sign up here, and I'll open upload thread tomorrow.

key: E minor
tempo: 100bpm (1/4 time in the first part of the backing and 1/2 time in the second part)
maximum number of participants: 25
deadline: 15th of June


Singed up participants:

1. kaznie_NL
2. Marek Rojewski
3. berko
4. Tolek
5. arctic1234
6. Toroso
7. Sollesnes
8. Jakub Luptovec
9. superize
10. Gus
11. Matt23
12. Outlaw2112
13. enforcer
14. sted
15. DeepRoots
16. Velvet Roger
17. Rated Htr
18. audiopaal
19. Deadevil
20. Eat-Sleep-andJam
21. VictorUK
22. Paiva
23. Jesse
24. kjutte
25. gibsonmatte

FULL!

Posted by: kaznie_NL May 20 2009, 03:37 PM

Cool! Count me in! It might take some time to get this finished, because I need two others to be done first

Posted by: Marek Rojewski May 20 2009, 03:39 PM

Count me in Ivan, I will try to come up with something!

Posted by: berko May 20 2009, 03:57 PM

I'm up for this! Nice to see your dark side Ivan

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 20 2009, 03:58 PM

Great guys, you're in! Deadline is 15th of June, so it's 25 days from now, it should be long enough for all I guess, but we will stretch it in the case of emergency of course

Posted by: Tolek May 20 2009, 04:00 PM

Cool backing track! I´ll join of course.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 20 2009, 04:25 PM

Thanks man, you're in - of course!

Posted by: JVM May 20 2009, 04:26 PM

I'm in on two other collabs at the moment, but if you don't mind I'd love to join this one too

Posted by: Tolek May 20 2009, 04:39 PM

Thanks man, you´re cool - of course!

Posted by: arctic1234 May 20 2009, 04:43 PM

I would like to give it a try... my first collab

Posted by: Toroso May 20 2009, 04:44 PM

Put me down for a slot.

Posted by: Sollesnes May 20 2009, 04:54 PM

Sounds great, Id love to do this one!

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec May 20 2009, 04:57 PM

sign me in;)

Posted by: superize May 20 2009, 05:17 PM

Metal Collab...... Count me in

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 20 2009, 05:20 PM

Wow, great response! Thanks guys, all are in!

Posted by: Toroso May 20 2009, 06:55 PM

Ivan, I don't understand this, please explain.

tempo: 100bpm (1/4 time in the first part of the backing and 1/2 time in the second part)

Posted by: Gus May 20 2009, 07:03 PM

Time to rock.

Count me in

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 20 2009, 07:08 PM

Nothing special really, it means that the backing is splitted into two equal parts, first part has one groove that is in 1/4 feel, which makes it sound a bit faster, and the second part is in 1/2 feel which makes it sound a bit slower. The tempo is the same, so basically only the "feel" of the tempo speed changes when the groove changes somewhere in the middle.



you're in man! \m/

Posted by: Matt23 May 20 2009, 07:11 PM

I'd definitely like to give this a shot.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 20 2009, 09:29 PM

Sure mate, you're in!

Posted by: Outlaw2112 May 20 2009, 11:36 PM

Im in if there is still an opening...

Posted by: enforcer May 21 2009, 02:50 AM

please! add me too!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 21 2009, 10:03 AM

Of course! Thanks for joining in guys

Posted by: sted May 21 2009, 02:17 PM

go on then! I'll have a bash!!

Posted by: DeepRoots May 21 2009, 02:26 PM

I'm in too (if theres room!!) > think that makes me number 15 actually,

Thanks Ivan cool BT

Posted by: Velvet Roger May 21 2009, 06:29 PM

Wanna give this one a shot too if possible

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 21 2009, 07:49 PM

Of course guys!

PS If anyone else wants a shot at this, let me know, I will extend the participation limit. Cheers

Posted by: Rated Htr May 22 2009, 09:43 AM

I completly missed the last one, but I'm in this one for sure

Posted by: audiopaal May 22 2009, 12:01 PM

Can I join?

Posted by: sted May 23 2009, 01:06 PM

Just not a metal player so I cant seem to get the juices flowing for this, any tips or recommendations for ideas guys?

Posted by: Outlaw2112 May 23 2009, 01:10 PM

yeah...

Bang your head against the stage
Like you never did before
Make it ring make it bleed
Make it really sore
In a frenzied madness
With your leather and your spikes
Heads are bobbing all around
It is hot as hell tonight

Adrenalin starts to flow
Youre thrashing all around
Acting like a maniac
Whiplash

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 23 2009, 01:44 PM

You're in mate!


Of course paal!


Start off with E minor pentatonic, or E minor scale mate. Then use the existing licks that you know, and possibly insert some runs as well. Doesn't have to be fast, just some sequences on top of the E minor scale notes, can be a simple one as well. Doing a fast solo is cool in metal but not all solos in metal have to be ultra technical. Some great metal solos use blues licks up to speed, couple of runs, arpeggios lines etc. Connect them together in a natural way and you will get a cool sounding solo. In the end, whatever you come up with, we will discuss it and it will definitely be a valuable experience mate.


\m/

Posted by: Deadevil May 23 2009, 02:28 PM

I'd like to join in on this one don't know if there's place for me tho.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 23 2009, 06:06 PM

Sure there is. You're in



You have plenty of time man, and it's not that big of a deal to play in one key. Are you familiar with minor pentatonic boxes or major scale boxes or anything similar?

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam May 23 2009, 06:27 PM

Is this one full? I would maybe like to join, for my first collab.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 23 2009, 10:06 PM

You're in mate!


Of course! You can do whatever you like man, it's not necessary to use anything specific. IF you can pull out a small arpeggio, do it, if not doesn't matter, there will be other material as well, so it's perfectly alright !

I'll sign you up!

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam May 23 2009, 11:54 PM

Cool thanks Ivan, And so do you want a take with the backing and without ?

Posted by: Paiva May 24 2009, 01:38 PM

I'm in if I still can =?

Posted by: Jesse May 24 2009, 02:11 PM

i'm in. E harmonic minor is doable?

Posted by: sted May 24 2009, 06:04 PM

Listen mate, Ive heard you play, and if I can give this a bash then you certainly can too! If you want to toss a few ideas backwards and forwards on scales and that mate let me know coz I dont know the first thing about metal and am open to any ideas!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 24 2009, 08:57 PM

Sure mate, with and without the backing please!


Of course


Maybe


Great point of view mate

Posted by: kjutte May 25 2009, 12:21 PM

I'm in

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 25 2009, 01:53 PM

Thanks mate, singing you up!

Posted by: gibsonmatte May 25 2009, 02:23 PM

Hey hey Ivan!
Excellent collab and I would really like to join if there are any slots left?

Posted by: kjutte May 25 2009, 04:00 PM

I am a bit lost in the first part here.
I could shred through it, but that would be very dull.

Does anyone have some ideas for this part? I am guessing some metal riffing, but I don't know any xD

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic May 25 2009, 11:14 PM

Thanks mate, you're in of course!



Check out some of the uploads already done guys, I think any idea can be good. Just try to be creative and perhaps do a more simpler but functional approach. Often a good simple melody with a meaning/structure can have a lot more impact on the listener than bunch of notes with no or little structure. Try to look at it that way, and perhaps derive a small melody out of the Eminor scale notes/chords.

The part has powerchords going in this sequence: A5 C5 B5 A5 F#5 G5. Perhaps following them with arpeggiated eight notes could sound nice, just a thought.

Posted by: kaznie_NL Jun 10 2009, 07:05 PM

Hey Ivan!
I already have a really cool lick to use in the second part, it goes like:
E|---3--------------------------------------------------
B|------5-----5/-7--8--7--5~-------------------------
G|---------4--------------------------------------------

But, the problem is the intro It's hard to come up with something.... BTW, you said I'll extend the limit a bit, but wasn't the limit 15th june? It's the 10th now, so I'll make it

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 10 2009, 09:06 PM

That looks cool!

For the intro just simplify things and do some repetative licks or something, just a thought.

I was referring to participant number limit, since I started with 15 participants max, and now the number is 25 (with you 26)

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Jun 10 2009, 11:30 PM

Yeah im having a little problem coming up with something for the intro also... Im gonna finish it up tonight or tomorrow night though

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 11 2009, 12:10 AM

No probs, take your time As I said, if you have problems - simplify licks.

Posted by: Velvet Roger Jun 11 2009, 06:22 AM

Hey Ivan,

Sorry, but I can't find the proper time to complete this collab due to some time contraints at work and private as well.

Thanks for the understanding

Roger

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 11 2009, 11:36 AM

That's OK man, no problem!

Posted by: kaznie_NL Jun 11 2009, 04:07 PM

Wow Ivan, sure you want to do 26 4 hour videos?? I mean, thats 104 hours in total, you'll have no sleep for 5 days!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 11 2009, 04:12 PM

I'm sure I'm doing them as we speak, two today, 19 more to go