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-Zion- View Member Profile	Jan 9 2010, 09:08 PM
Jan 9 2010, 09:08 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 713 Joined: 20-May 08 From: copenhagen	Hey everyone.. I hope some of you might be able to help me out, cause i have this really weird problem.. Okay, after having postponed a string change on my guitar for too long, i finally decided to get it done today.. The G-string had "squishy" marks at every fret, so this was long overdue.. Anyways, I do my usual routine when it's been a while, so i take off the strings and begin to clean and oil the fretboard.. while the fretboard is getting all the oil, i start to clean and polish the guitar.. after this is done, i wipe the fretboard, and begin to restring the guitar.. I am using Ernie Balls 10-46 with a custom EB 18gauge wound G-string, exactly the same as before.. I begin with the g-string and then the D-string.. But believe it or not, i had forgotten my regular string-around-post "routine", so when i get to the B-string i finally remembered how i usually do it and decide to do both the G and D string again.. this time the "right" way.. So now my guitar is restringed, and finally i wipe the guitar once again with some "love potion" which takes away the fingerprints and gives it a nice smell.. i tune it up, and i leave it for a couple of hours.. I come back tonight to my daily practice routine, and i decide to check the intonation on the guitar.. I try to do this every time i restring the guitar.. So here is the problem.. I cannot get the right intonation for the D-string.. I tune the open string until its perfect (or max 1 cent off), and then fret the 12th fret.. if the 12th fret is flat the string is too long.. The D-string was around 20 cents flat on the 12th fret.. well.. no problem then.. just move the saddle closer to the fretboard making the string shorter.. well, get this.. i moved it ALL the way, the closest it can get, and it's still flat by 10-12 cents.. EVERY other string is pitch perfect, it's just this D-string messing with me.. I know it has been in perfect intonation before, but why it cannot now makes absolutely no sense for me.. The guitar is a Gibson Les Paul with the ABR-1 bridge and the "loose" tailpiece, and yes, i did put bridge on the same way as before.. Anybody who have any ideas? could the string just be a "faulty-messed-up" string, or could be causing this issue? man, my mood just turned from very high, to extremely low.. Thanks in advance edit: spelling You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by -Zion-: Jan 9 2010, 09:08 PM

Staffy View Member Profile	Jan 9 2010, 09:16 PM
Jan 9 2010, 09:16 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 2.294 Joined: 18-June 09 From: Genarp, Sweden	Well, sometimes You just get a "bad" string that's not wound properly from the manufactorer.... I always check the intonation and makes small adjustment when changing strings, well not really EVERY time, but at least if I change brand for some reason.... //Staffay You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Jan 10 2010, 01:13 AM
Jan 10 2010, 01:13 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Try to get a new set, or at least only D string, bad strings happen from time to time, it's not unusual. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Daniel Realpe View Member Profile	Jan 10 2010, 02:46 AM
Jan 10 2010, 02:46 AM	Instructor Posts: 5.655 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Bogota	That might be due to the corrosion left on the fretboard! that can make strings go rusty in days, happens to me, I just left my guitar for mainteinance today, You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit my: INSTRUCTOR PROFILE "If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music." Gustav Mahler Subscribe to my Youtube Channel here

-Zion- View Member Profile	Jan 10 2010, 05:38 PM
Jan 10 2010, 05:38 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 713 Joined: 20-May 08 From: copenhagen	quick update.. I changed the D-string today, and the intonation was spot on.. Perfect pitch.. Hurray.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Sensible Jones View Member Profile	Jan 10 2010, 05:39 PM
Jan 10 2010, 05:39 PM	GMC:er Posts: 7.277 Joined: 2-January 09 From: London-ish. UK.	As already said, it could just be a rogue string! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- I'd rather have a full Bottle in front of me than a full Frontal Lobotomy!!

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