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Computer Upgrade Help, new video card / power supply?
Owen
Oct 25 2007, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 22 2007, 08:05 PM) *
If it boots in safe mode it is unlikely to be any sort of hardware issue - far more likely to be drivers. The MB is obviously ok, as is the graphics card. In your previous posts you just said you got a blank screen - if that is the case, how do you boot it into safe mode? Do you get regular bootup messages then a blank screen after that?


Not always true, I had a pc a while back that would boot into safe mode but not into windows, I formatted it three times over in the hope that it would recover but to no avail, I never did find out what the problem was because I figured the pc was getting redundant anyway and it was time to replace it.

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QUOTE (Asphyxia Feeling @ Oct 25 2007, 01:03 PM) *
Semi-bump. i did not have enough money for both a power supply + video card, so i ordered the power supply by itself instead (my current power supply did not meet the requirements for the new card anyway). HOPEFULLY this will fix the problem, so i won't really have to buy a new card for a while.



Hopefully you took the door off the computer and checked the dimensions of the power supply and compared them to the new one(to make sure the new one would fit). power supplies have no standard size and they do make them differently, the holes are also different on a lot of power supplies so the one you bought may not line up with the holes on your emachine.

one thing you have to remember when you buy an emachine, compaq, gateway etc.. is that they have a lot of proprietary parts in them. they do this for one reason only "GREED" so that you have to buy the parts from them when you upgrade or replace old ones. of course if you know what you are doing you can make almost anything fit. Mostly of course this has to do with motherboards, power supplies and the like but I've seen compaq's that would not work with anything other than memory bought directly from compaq.

Myself in this issue I would have done the following in order:

1: Clean out the inside of the case, make sure all dirt, dust and crap is out
2: reseat memory, graphics card check all cables for a loose one
3: reload the operating system
4: reloaded all drivers; including, bios, graphic drivers for the card and the mothboard, monitor

if not working then try
5: memtest
6: 3d mark
7: pcmark
usually if there is something wrong with your system it will fail to run one or more of the above.
I think buying the power supply was the wrong way to go at first, if anything it sounds to me like it was software related usually brought on by one significant thing like an update, virus or some other software that did not load or was not removed properly.

these things can also be brought on by heat related issues, do you clean out the fan and case vents regularly?

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Oct 26 2007, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE (RobM @ Oct 25 2007, 04:48 PM) *
Hopefully you took the door off the computer and checked the dimensions of the power supply and compared them to the new one(to make sure the new one would fit). power supplies have no standard size and they do make them differently, the holes are also different on a lot of power supplies so the one you bought may not line up with the holes on your emachine.

one thing you have to remember when you buy an emachine, compaq, gateway etc.. is that they have a lot of proprietary parts in them. they do this for one reason only "GREED" so that you have to buy the parts from them when you upgrade or replace old ones. of course if you know what you are doing you can make almost anything fit. Mostly of course this has to do with motherboards, power supplies and the like but I've seen compaq's that would not work with anything other than memory bought directly from compaq.

Myself in this issue I would have done the following in order:

1: Clean out the inside of the case, make sure all dirt, dust and crap is out
2: reseat memory, graphics card check all cables for a loose one
3: reload the operating system
4: reloaded all drivers; including, bios, graphic drivers for the card and the mothboard, monitor

if not working then try
5: memtest
6: 3d mark
7: pcmark
usually if there is something wrong with your system it will fail to run one or more of the above.
I think buying the power supply was the wrong way to go at first, if anything it sounds to me like it was software related usually brought on by one significant thing like an update, virus or some other software that did not load or was not removed properly.

these things can also be brought on by heat related issues, do you clean out the fan and case vents regularly?


ohhh.

...

sad.gif

looks like i still have a lot to learn, hahaha.

luckily, i'm pretty sure the PSU can fit, i actually found the power supply by searching "replacement PSU for T6534"(my pc model number)

i've done steps 1, 2, 4, and 5 on your list already to no avail. i only decided to jump the gun and purchase the PSU because somebody on NVIDIA's forums had problems exactly like mine and forum mods suggested that their stock PSU was giving out.

on the bright side, if this doesn't work, atleast i'll have a better power supply.

if this doesn't work, i think i will take Muris's advice and just buy a new PC. something cheap and basic, i can buy all of the extra things i need serperately.

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RobM
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QUOTE (Asphyxia Feeling @ Oct 26 2007, 02:09 AM) *
ohhh.

...

sad.gif

looks like i still have a lot to learn, hahaha.

luckily, i'm pretty sure the PSU can fit, i actually found the power supply by searching "replacement PSU for T6534"(my pc model number)

i've done steps 1, 2, 4, and 5 on your list already to no avail. i only decided to jump the gun and purchase the PSU because somebody on NVIDIA's forums had problems exactly like mine and forum mods suggested that their stock PSU was giving out.

on the bright side, if this doesn't work, atleast i'll have a better power supply.

if this doesn't work, i think i will take Muris's advice and just buy a new PC. something cheap and basic, i can buy all of the extra things i need serperately.


If you get to the point that you need to buy a new PC, build one instead. It's not that hard and I guarantee you that you can build a better PC for the same $$ as you can buy one. Why go to the expense of buying a lower end PC and then end up spending more cash on buying replacement hardware for this or that? If you buy everything together at the same time, you then save on shipping charges to.

As it's already been mentioned here shop at newegg, they will give you the best price but better yet they will also give you the best support should anything go wrong with something you bought there like it coming in DOA etc.. When I built my PC last year my power supply came in DOA and I had to get a new one, I sent it back to newegg and they shipped me out a brand new one without any hassles at all.

Good Luck and if you have any more questions feel free to send me a PM or just ask in here.

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