Marshall Vintage Modern?, needin a slash sound |
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Sep 27 2007, 08:25 PM
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there's a 50W Vintage modern aswell, just so you know. I'm pretty sure that 99,9% of your playingtime you'd find 50W more useful than 100W.
Then there's a TSL 60W and DSL50W. I'm pretty sure any of the above will get you close to Slash. After all, a Marshall is a Marshall  Here's a demo of the DSL100 I like the DSL50! I used to have a JCM800 50W and brother... I almost never played it crancked, too loud. And when I did it was only for a shorter time. Kidneys started to bleed  I suggest you get a attenuator (even with the 50W) to get the Marshall tone at low volumes. -------------------- My bands homepage
All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello |
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Sep 28 2007, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Sep 28 2007, 05:25 AM)  there's a 50W Vintage modern aswell, just so you know. I'm pretty sure that 99,9% of your playingtime you'd find 50W more useful than 100W. Then there's a TSL 60W and DSL50W. I'm pretty sure any of the above will get you close to Slash. After all, a Marshall is a Marshall Here's a demo of the DSL100 I like the DSL50! I used to have a JCM800 50W and brother... I almost never played it crancked, too loud. And when I did it was only for a shorter time. Kidneys started to bleed I suggest you get a attenuator (even with the 50W) to get the Marshall tone at low volumes. cheers for the input mate much appreciated, i checked out that demo and mate id have to say u have swayed me......i love the dsl100 that was the tone im after but im wondering do ya think that the dsl 50 watt would be suitable for gigs? say in a pub/bar or club or somethin coz if i get the amp i wont be gettin another one for a very long time thats why i thought id get the 100 watt but what do ya reckon mate?
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Sep 28 2007, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (slash85 @ Sep 28 2007, 07:43 PM) cheers for the input mate much appreciated, i checked out that demo and mate id have to say u have swayed me......i love the dsl100 that was the tone im after but im wondering do ya think that the dsl 50 watt would be suitable for gigs? say in a pub/bar or club or somethin coz if i get the amp i wont be gettin another one for a very long time thats why i thought id get the 100 watt but what do ya reckon mate? Slash proably has both a Vintage Modern and a DSL so I don't think you can go wrong with any of them  The 50W is still 80% the loudness of 100W. The advantages of a 50W are that you could play it more towards full than a 100W in the pub. Crank a 100W and people will leave, same with a 50W may be too loud too but you're use more of the total available effect. Say you're playing in the pub putting out 40W of your 50W amp, that's at 80% of it's capacity. menaing the tubes are set to work hard, you'll get a real nice sound. Same with the 100W, at 40W you're putting out 40%, it will still sound good but you'll lack the singing from the tubes. If 100W is what you want then you should get that. I think 50W will be enough. But I'd hate to recommend you a 50W and you'll later find out you'll be playing outdoors with heavy wind in your face blowing the sound away and you'd need the extra wattage. It's likely a gig like that would go through a PA anyway but... You WOULD get good sound from a 100W too, you can play at home at low volumes, pub gigs etc etc etc. No problem. -------------------- My bands homepage
All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello |
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Sep 28 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Sep 28 2007, 08:31 PM) Slash plays jcm800's ONLY. I had a hard time beliving that and will check facts that are stated with a bit too much confidence so I looked it up and found he's using or has been using the following ampsVintage 1960's Marshall 1959 modified by Tim Caswell at SIR studios; used for the recording of Appetite for Destruction (Attempted to be stolen, but returned accidentally by a roadie) 2555SL Signature Head with EL-34 tubes JCM-800 2203 Head with 6550 tubes JCM 2555 Silver Jubilee (the grey/silver 25th Anniversary head from 1987 and the black edition from 1988) 50W Plexi model 1987 (from 1973) Vintage Modern 2466 with KT-66 tubes 1960BV 4x12 Cabinet 60 Watt Celestion "Vintage 30" Speakers 1960BX 4x12 Cabinet 25 Watt Celestion "Greenback" Speakers For the recording of Velvet Revolver's debut, he told Guitar Player magazine that he used a Vox AC30 and small Fender tube amps (for "oddball" sounds). Live, he only uses Marshalls. For the recording of Velvet Revolver's second CD / Libertad, he told Total Guitar magazine that he used the new Marshall Vintage Modern 2466 amp. I.e one JCM800 but not with EL34's but 6550 instead. I also read that the 2555SL (Slash signature head) is built to sound like a JCM800 with some extra push, but completely handwired. So lately for the Velvet Revolver record he used the Vintage Modern, that's in 2007. About the cabinet, it's a matter of taste but I like the sound from Vintage 30's. Can't go wrong with those. 
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All time favourites: B. Streisand - Woman in Love, M. Hopkin - Those were the days, L. Richie - Hello |
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Sep 28 2007, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (slash85 @ Sep 28 2007, 10:16 PM) oi mate i was checkin out the dsl head 50 watt on the site that im gettin me amp from and the dsl 50 watt head is actually 300 bucks more expensive than the 100 watt which i think is either a fair dinkum sale or they a bloody mistake coz if its the 100watt is 300 bucks cheaper i may aswell get that just for the money savings im not sure though...................got another question mate.....im havin dramas trying to find a 50 watt speaker cabinet for the 50 watt (if i decide to buy it) but it shouldnt matter what wattage the speaker is as long as the wattage is above 50 watt eg a dsl 50 watt head with a 100watt speaker cab or 150 watt or whatever is this correct? if the 100W is 300 bucks cheaper there's nothing to even concider, get the 100W! About cabinets. I've got one 4x12 Marshall called 1960A (JCM900 cab) which has speakers in it that will scoop the mids a bit (G12T75), it's a cheap cabinet in the Marshall range and good for the buck. Personaly I like the mid frequencies in my guitar playing but whatever... it's an alright cab. Then I have a 4x12 with Vintage 30's in it, it lets the mids through and I think the sound is clear and well defined. I like it a lot! Don' know which cabinet Marshall would have with Vintage 30's. Anyway, I belive a DSL100 and the Marshall 1960A cab would make a good pair. You'll have a Marshall stack without spending a fortune. There are in fact others that make cheaper cabs with other speakers... but they don't say Marshall which I guess is important to you aswell? EDIT: then if you have the extra buck there's the JVM that ZakkWylde mentioned. It's supposed to be able to sound like any Marshall model you like. And be aware that you can pickup a DSL100 in the used market quite cheap. This post has been edited by MickeM: Sep 28 2007, 09:42 PM -------------------- My bands homepage
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Oct 13 2007, 04:58 AM
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QUOTE (Sagolik @ Oct 13 2007, 03:53 AM) hey! i also looking for a slash tone=) im thinking of getting a jcm 900 4500, or are they to much of a metal amp? I used to have a JCM800 and it was sleepy until you had lots of gain and volume but oh boy was it smashing then. Good for Slash tone but has to be LOUD, when it's not it's pretty lame. A more modern amp should have a better tone even on low volumes. Or you could get an attenuator with the amp to be able to crank it and still play scilently. Downside is that the attenuator probably cost as much as the amp itself... -------------------- My bands homepage
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