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Posted by: Muris Feb 13 2008, 01:30 AM

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/Mesa_Boogie_Triaxis_Review

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 13 2008, 03:28 AM

It looks beautiful and the sound is awesome! I want one! smile.gif
Did you record the samples using a mic? or you used the direct out and recorded it by line?
great review!
thanks.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 13 2008, 08:20 AM

Oh my God GAS increasing !!! tongue.gif I love this preamp !!!! hehe, but it's too much expensive tongue.gif
well, first I may buy a Rocktron Prophesy... but I need lot of months to have it !!! laugh.gif

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 13 2008, 10:16 AM

Great preamp Muris. Thanks for sharing man smile.gif

Posted by: visi0n Feb 13 2008, 10:32 AM

Thanks for sharing and for reviewing smile.gif i will check the recording tonight .. but well .. mesa boogie is quality products..

Posted by: Toni Suominen Feb 13 2008, 10:36 AM

Great review Muris, awesome preamp! smile.gif sounds great!

Posted by: Muris Feb 13 2008, 05:37 PM

Thanks guys. smile.gif

Gabriel,I recorded it using recording outputs so it was line recording,no mics.
I've tried it on poweramp and cab as well,it's mind blowing combo indeed!

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 13 2008, 08:01 PM

Hey !!! one of my students (and friends) is an amateur-amp-builder (hehe, I don't know what't the correct word tongue.gif)... and it's possible that he mades me a TRIAXIS clone !!!! oh, and with a really low price, so maybe I will have this preamp (or a clone, of course)...

It's a great new for me !!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 14 2008, 12:42 AM

Muris, one question man. Is this preamp a modeling preamp for Mesa amps (like the most famous known or something)? I don't know much about Mesa gear and models..

Posted by: Muris Feb 14 2008, 03:37 AM

It actually has preamp sections of some famous Mesa amps like MKIII,MKIV etc.
So it's not modeling stuff but owner of all those preamps,sort of speech.
But to get identical tone as on those amps you have to use the same power section and same cab.
But as for preamp section,they putted all into Triaxis plus full MIDI support,quite cool.
What is more amazing that it's all in 1HE!?!?! blink.gif
You can check picture of "open" unit,it's a war down there. laugh.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 14 2008, 01:08 PM

QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 13 2008, 01:37 PM) *
Thanks guys. smile.gif

Gabriel,I recorded it using recording outputs so it was line recording,no mics.
I've tried it on poweramp and cab as well,it's mind blowing combo indeed!


Thanks Muris! The line out recording sounds so good! I can't imagine how it would sound throgh a power amp, a cab and a mic. It must be awesome. smile.gif

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 14 2008, 08:25 PM

So you can cover all the bases, and get a great tone.

Pretty impressive.

Now do those functions on your preamp do much, like deep or whatever that can be controlled by the triaxis, do they change the sound alot?

If you dont mind, could I ask what the price of your poweramp was?

Thanks,
tj

Posted by: Muris Feb 14 2008, 09:55 PM

It changes sound A LOT I must say!

I prefer Deep mode cause it's only EQ mode,
while Half Drive and Modern add some gain and I don't need it actually. wink.gif

Poweramp..hmm...I bought it few years ago,I think I payed around 1000 euros for it,can't tell sure...
On eBay of course. smile.gif

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 14 2008, 10:03 PM

So would you say its worth it?

Posted by: Muris Feb 15 2008, 01:59 AM

QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 14 2008, 10:03 PM) *
So would you say its worth it?


Triaxis or 2:90?

However,for both the answer is YES,well worth imho. smile.gif

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 15 2008, 02:54 PM

One more question.

Prophecy or Triaxis + G-force?

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 15 2008, 03:32 PM

hehe, I think it would be better Triaxis + G-force, isn't it, Muris ?

Posted by: Muris Feb 15 2008, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 15 2008, 02:54 PM) *
One more question.

Prophecy or Triaxis + G-force?


Triaxis&G-Force,no any doubt. smile.gif
Tone base from Triaxis is fully analog and tube stuff comparing to Prophesy
and effects from G-Force are beauty.
Of course,compare the price and voting might go in opposite direction. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tjchep Feb 15 2008, 08:08 PM

I'm thinking for when I get to a gigging stage I'm going to get a triaxis and a g-major. Plus Midi controller smile.gif.

Thats about $1500 I think.

Posted by: Muris Feb 16 2008, 01:46 AM

Well,if you can find Triaxis for good price,go for it.
I got mine for 1200$ or som,which is pretty low price.

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 16 2008, 03:26 PM

QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 14 2008, 03:37 AM) *
It actually has preamp sections of some famous Mesa amps like MKIII,MKIV etc.
So it's not modeling stuff but owner of all those preamps,sort of speech.
But to get identical tone as on those amps you have to use the same power section and same cab.
But as for preamp section,they putted all into Triaxis plus full MIDI support,quite cool.
What is more amazing that it's all in 1HE!?!?! blink.gif
You can check picture of "open" unit,it's a war down there. laugh.gif


Wow great stuff Muris, I thought it's some kind of modelling unit, but that is a real/deal Mesa all stars preamp collection. You chose wisely you gear man wink.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 16 2008, 04:25 PM

Thanks Ivan. smile.gif

It is great piece of gear indeed,price isn't that great to be honest sad.gif

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 18 2008, 12:34 AM

Well, considering what you've bought it's a great piece of machinery. Look it like this - what would you use today if you didn't bought?


Offtopic P.S. do you still considering buying that Roadking?

Posted by: Trond Vold Feb 18 2008, 03:53 AM

I have considered getting a triaxis preamp, but never had the chance to try one.

I'm using a JMP-1.. anyone tried both the triaxis and jmp-1 and can give a comparison?

Posted by: Muris Feb 18 2008, 06:22 AM

Hi Trond smile.gif

I tried both and all I can say is this,JMP-1 is Marshall sound,Triaxis is more like Mesa sound.
This won't help you much tho,I know,you really have to try it by yourself. smile.gif

But I do know something else,many heavy players who play mostly ultra high gain(digital units)
don't like Triaxis that much,it's analog unit and you can't hide yourself(mostly mistakes) behind tons of gain,
if you know what I mean. smile.gif

Posted by: Trond Vold Feb 18 2008, 07:16 AM

Hehe.. i know exactly what you mean smile.gif
I'm a metalhead, but i've never been much fan of the ultra-high gain sounds. I dont even set the JMP to full gain on the heavy sounds.

I have had a Marshall in some form or another since day 1, and i love the sound and feel of them.. but i also want to try something new for a change. I guess i have to take trips to the local shops and see if they have a triaxis in the stores smile.gif

Argh..choices, choices!

Posted by: Muris Feb 18 2008, 07:23 AM

Yeah,always something new to think of! smile.gif

Back on that high gain stuff again,Triaxis won't give you that "monster" gain like some digi units,
you're only moving your fingers and notes come out.
I'm sure that similar thing is with JMP-1 as well,you have to PLAY every note
and that's what we all like,good control. smile.gif

Posted by: Trond Vold Feb 18 2008, 07:51 AM

Yeapp, control is vital smile.gif

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 11 2008, 08:19 PM

I have one more information about the Triaxis that might be important for everybody who is thinking about getting this killer Preamp. There are 3 different versions of the Triaxis, versions 1.0 (the original), version 2.0 (the ONLY version that has the Rectifier mode included) and the up to date version 3.0, in which the Rectifier was removed again. So if you are interested in the Triaxis and you want the version that includes the Rectifier, you have to look for version 2.0 on eBay, the one that you can buy in the shops today doesn't offer this anymore. Besides this I 100% agree with Muris review.

Posted by: Muris Mar 11 2008, 09:00 PM

Thanks for input Marcus. smile.gif
I guess this version 3.0 is so called PHAT version,without Rectifier?

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Mar 11 2008, 10:55 PM

Why in the world would they exlude the rectifier form this new version??

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 12 2008, 10:15 AM

The Phat version was already introduced with version 2.0, I know this because this is exactly what I have, Version 2.0 incl. Rectifier and phat mod smile.gif I don't know if version 3.0 still has the phat mod, but at least I didn't hear anything about this one being removed too, so I guess the up to date version is still phat wink.gif The Rectifier was removed by Boogie on purpose for one single reason... people bought too many Triaxis and not enough Rectifier heads anymore tongue.gif (no, I am not kidding) As far as I know it was replaced by a new lead mod based on a Mark IV head, but I am not absolutely sure about this.

Posted by: Dave Rock Mar 12 2008, 10:56 AM

QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Mar 12 2008, 10:15 AM) *
The Rectifier was removed by Boogie on purpose for one single reason... people bought too many Triaxis and not enough Rectifier heads anymore tongue.gif

Almost right ... people didn't buy the rectifier recording pre-amp wink.gif
And there is logic in there. Why buy a pre-amp that only nails the recto sound, if you can buy (second hand) a pre-amp that almost nails the recto sound and then 7 other modes for the same cash smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Mar 12 2008, 01:41 PM

Ahh,I mixed PHAT mode and version 3.0,thanks for explaining guys! smile.gif

Posted by: Nemanja Mar 12 2008, 08:02 PM

little leight,but great review Muris...

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Mar 12 2008, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (Dave Rock @ Mar 12 2008, 10:56 AM) *
Almost right ... people didn't buy the rectifier recording pre-amp wink.gif
And there is logic in there. Why buy a pre-amp that only nails the recto sound, if you can buy (second hand) a pre-amp that almost nails the recto sound and then 7 other modes for the same cash smile.gif


WHat do you mean "almost", I thought Triaxis nails them perfectly like the original preamps?

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 12 2008, 10:54 PM

QUOTE (Dave Rock @ Mar 12 2008, 10:56 AM) *
Almost right ... people didn't buy the rectifier recording pre-amp wink.gif
And there is logic in there. Why buy a pre-amp that only nails the recto sound, if you can buy (second hand) a pre-amp that almost nails the recto sound and then 7 other modes for the same cash smile.gif



I have both, but the Triaxis is way better than the Recording Pre wink.gif

Posted by: Pavel Mar 13 2008, 12:25 AM

Hey Marcus! i'm watching the "Imaginations..." DVD right now and i can't believe how good the distortion sound is - it's both powerful and so clean and crunchy! Can you tell us a bit more about your setup? Amps - effects - preamps? Thanks a lot smile.gif

EDIT: oh, ignore that - i found your blog and found your rack and gear! smile.gif Great stuff and awesome sound smile.gif

Posted by: Dave Rock Mar 13 2008, 08:47 AM

QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Mar 12 2008, 09:19 PM) *
WHat do you mean "almost", I thought Triaxis nails them perfectly like the original preamps?


Yes, but a big part of a sound is also the poweramp. A triaxis on recto mode + a 2:90 sounds almost as a full blown recto, but there are subtle differences. A triaxis on IIC+ mode with a 2:90 sounds almost as a real IIC+, but still there are subtle differences. You want recto sound, buy a recto head smile.gif Want real mark sound, buy a mark. Want flexibility, lots of sounds that are very close but not perfect the same, buy a triaxis

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 13 2008, 09:58 AM

QUOTE (Dave Rock @ Mar 13 2008, 08:47 AM) *
Yes, but a big part of a sound is also the poweramp. A triaxis on recto mode + a 2:90 sounds almost as a full blown recto, but there are subtle differences. A triaxis on IIC+ mode with a 2:90 sounds almost as a real IIC+, but still there are subtle differences. You want recto sound, buy a recto head smile.gif Want real mark sound, buy a mark. Want flexibility, lots of sounds that are very close but not perfect the same, buy a triaxis


+1 wink.gif

@ Pavel: I was just about to give you the address to my blog so you could check out my gear wink.gif As you can see it is a rather simple but very effectlive setup, I don't really need anything else besides those things to get "my" sound. I just don't like those huge racks with billions of effects, they are way too sensitive to be taken on tour, one small cable defect somewhere in the setup and you are in big problems.

Posted by: Pavel Mar 13 2008, 11:12 AM

QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Mar 13 2008, 09:58 AM) *
@ Pavel: I was just about to give you the address to my blog so you could check out my gear wink.gif As you can see it is a rather simple but very effectlive setup, I don't really need anything else besides those things to get "my" sound. I just don't like those huge racks with billions of effects, they are way too sensitive to be taken on tour, one small cable defect somewhere in the setup and you are in big problems.


Yeah it's really great to keep things simple! I only use distortion and delay so i like your simple approach smile.gif But damn - Mesa Rectifiers are expensive sad.gif I heard a lot of people playing Rectifier but i never heard so nice and clean distortion coming out from it smile.gif

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 13 2008, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Pavel @ Mar 13 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Yeah it's really great to keep things simple! I only use distortion and delay so i like your simple approach smile.gif But damn - Mesa Rectifiers are expensive sad.gif I heard a lot of people playing Rectifier but i never heard so nice and clean distortion coming out from it smile.gif


A Rectifier is for sure not a cheap amp, but it is worth the price in my opinion, I don't know any other amp that delivers this sound. A friend of mine once told me about it, he had just bought one, and he offered me to check out his Rectifier, and of course I accepted his offer. So I went to his place, picked up the amp, went to our rehearsal room and played the amp... for about 5 minutes, then I bought one myself wink.gif I immediately knew I had found "my" amp finally.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Mar 13 2008, 08:34 PM

just say it's great to have your opinion, Marcus, 'cos I hope you have tried lot of gear !! thanks friend wink.gif
One question, do you think the triaxis 2.0 is the best of the triaxis ?? One friend is gonna bought me a clone of this amp so I want to now what diagram he would need. (BTW he bought a Double Rectifier and sounds is as good as the original !! smile.gif)

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 14 2008, 09:49 AM

Well, this depends if you want the triaxis to have the Rectifier included, if you want this then version 2.0 is the ONLY option for you. Since I definitely wanted the Rectifier to be included I bought that version and I am more than happy with it.

Posted by: audiopaal Mar 14 2008, 09:56 AM

Nice review Muris smile.gif

I want one!!! laugh.gif

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Mar 14 2008, 02:40 PM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Mar 13 2008, 04:34 PM) *
just say it's great to have your opinion, Marcus, 'cos I hope you have tried lot of gear !! thanks friend wink.gif
One question, do you think the triaxis 2.0 is the best of the triaxis ?? One friend is gonna bought me a clone of this amp so I want to now what diagram he would need. (BTW he bought a Double Rectifier and sounds is as good as the original !! smile.gif )



How much does those clone amps cost?

Posted by: Muris Mar 14 2008, 02:49 PM

Ahhmm...and clone would be? unsure.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Mar 14 2008, 02:58 PM

well, I don't lnow exactly what would be the final price but for the Triaxis it will be very cheap, I supose around 400-500€, maybe less smile.gif For the double rectifier it will be more expensive... maybe 800-900 €

Posted by: Muris Mar 14 2008, 03:12 PM

And who makes those clones,which brand?

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Mar 14 2008, 06:35 PM

hehe, one of my friends makes this clones !! When I get mine I will do the review with some mp3 biggrin.gif (but now he is so busy and I don't know if it would be possible soon).

Posted by: Muris Mar 14 2008, 09:16 PM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Mar 14 2008, 06:35 PM) *
hehe, one of my friends makes this clones !! When I get mine I will do the review with some mp3 biggrin.gif (but now he is so busy and I don't know if it would be possible soon).



Ahh,I see. smile.gif

Sounds cool,tell us more about it when you get chance! wink.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Mar 14 2008, 09:27 PM

That's for sure !!! I wish I had my preamp now, but I must be patiente tongue.gif

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Mar 16 2008, 07:42 AM

I am very curious to hear about this clone.

Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto Mar 16 2008, 11:59 AM

A triaxis clone? Damn you...I have bought one and it cost so much...
If your friend can made a clone, why you don't ask him to create your personal sound?
Juan M. Valeriaxis! laugh.gif

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