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Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 10:08 AM
Ok guys! Since today, we're going to talk about bending, I thought it would be a good thing to know what kind of stuff do you practice to improve your bending and what methods are useful for you?
I'm asking this, because these articulation techniques (bending and vibrato) are not the ones to be practiced like exercises that much 
Can't wait to talk on all of this tonight! 
Posted by: Dinaga Sep 22 2011, 11:01 AM
An interesting topic indeed 
I agree, there aren't that many bending exercises out there. As for me, I usually just take a solo with lots of good bends and learn it. For example I take a Pink Floyd solo and listen and watch Gilmour's playing. It can be another band, as long as the song is slow enough - Satriani's The Forgotten part 1 comes to mind, that one has some good vibrato, and of course, most of Vai's stuff... That's why I struggled so much to achieve good sustain, because I couldn't develop skills much without it
The other way I practice it is to download a slow blues backing track and try to work on different bending techniques (1/2 step, whole step, pre-bends) and so on...
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 11:06 AM
I agree, there aren't that many bending exercises out there. As for me, I usually just take a solo with lots of good bends and learn it.
For example I take a Pink Floyd solo and listen and watch Gilmour's playing. It can be another band, as long as the song is slow enough - Satriani's The Forgotten part 1 comes to mind, that one has some good vibrato, and of course, most of Vai's stuff... That's why I struggled so much to achieve good sustain, because I couldn't develop skills much without it The other way I practice it is to download a slow blues backing track and try to work on different bending techniques (1/2 step, whole step, pre-bends) and so on...
Alrighty! This sounds very good! I used to do a lot of this stuff through time, but I found out that a lot of challenging bends come from the sounds of other instruments
try this one for instance! It's a killer, but if you master it, it's gonna offer you a control beyond imagination:Try and emulate the lead lines of the clarinet
Posted by: Dinaga Sep 22 2011, 11:22 AM
try this one for instance! It's a killer, but if you master it, it's gonna offer you a control beyond imagination:Try and emulate the lead lines of the clarinet
Wow, what's this, a Turkish jazz?
It sounds awesome, and these leads are challenging indeed! 
Now you reminded me of one piece, but this one may be classified as shred on nay
However the intro lead would be really interesting to emulate on a guitar... Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 11:37 AM
It sounds awesome, and these leads are challenging indeed! Now you reminded me of one piece, but this one may be classified as shred on nay
However the intro lead would be really interesting to emulate on a guitar... THANK YOUU
wow this sounds so so so awesome I love this piece!
Posted by: JaxN4 Sep 22 2011, 12:13 PM
Great topic Cosmin, and something i feel passionate about. I love a great bending a vibrato technique, its something that i will be studying for a long time..... A great example of where i want to be with this techniques is Gary Moore, Marcus Lavendall, and this is a perfect exam ple for me.....
Thanks to Gabe for sending this to me a wjile ago....
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 12:35 PM
Thanks to Gabe for sending this to me a wjile ago....
OH YEAH!
Zakk has always been among my favorites! He has got a super fiery hand!!
Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 22 2011, 03:33 PM
Uhm...I have never really practiced bends on their own...until I got the feedback of you instructors that my bends are weak...so I am really looking forward to the chat tonight!
Posted by: Daniel Realpe Sep 22 2011, 03:40 PM
One of the best advices someone gave me is that THE BEND COMES FROM THE RIST NOT THE FINGERS! that's the key right there
Posted by: JaxN4 Sep 22 2011, 03:44 PM
Very good advice...and btw, you Wild Bends lesson is epic! I will be studying that very soon....
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Sep 22 2011, 04:18 PM
i use the boring way for practice bends 
i trow random notes on Roland Cube Looper, and then try to bend and hit the right pitch from one half/step, Whole step etc.
also been bending like hell on 0'11/0'12 strings, and change back to 0'9 last night and i was like wow : o! i am a beast
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 05:47 PM
i trow random notes on Roland Cube Looper, and then try to bend and hit the right pitch from one half/step, Whole step etc.
also been bending like hell on 0'11/0'12 strings, and change back to 0'9 last night and i was like wow : o! i am a beast
I can say that 0.11's are hurting like hell
I just came back from the rehearsals right now and had a little lick to throw in which involved some bending, on the drop C PRS, brrrr... that kinda hurts 
Yes Daniel! I agree, although, I've seen some folks doing it from the fingers and it didn't sound bad
it feels queer for me, so I'll stick to the wrist Dude! Articulation is the most important tool a guitarist has
your level of expression is gauged by the articulation you use in your playing. So get to bending mate!
Posted by: MonkeyDAthos Sep 22 2011, 05:49 PM
I just came back from the rehearsals right now and had a little lick to throw in which involved some bending, on the drop C PRS, brrrr... that kinda hurts Well my friend, Son Goku also trained with weights, even on king kai planet!! where the gravity was away tougher than earth
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 05:51 PM
Ok, yesterday I pushed 100 kilos (3 reps) at the chest workout on the horizontal press
does that count?
Posted by: Gitarrero Sep 22 2011, 06:01 PM
you are a bragger, Cosmin! I am still working hard to finally get abs like you...just have to lose like 15 kilos of fat before 
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 22 2011, 06:21 PM
OK!
next Wednesday! I'll film it! and post it
Posted by: ZX6 Sep 22 2011, 11:13 PM
next Wednesday! I'll film it! and post it we must see to believe
Posted by: Bossie Sep 23 2011, 12:24 AM
Don't talk to me about bending..a very long time ago i was playing that legendary ' still got the blues lick'....
I was pretty glad to nail it then..untill my wife told me my bends ware horribly wrong ( she has perfect pitch ears !!)
She probably heared me play it 15 times in a day and couldn't stand it anymore...now she has a lil whip she uses
whenever i bend wrong....that whip did it for me !!
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 23 2011, 05:15 AM
Thanks to Gabe for sending this to me a wjile ago....
hahah I love this solo!! Zakk wylde's vibrato and bends on this one are so inspiring.
Posted by: JaxN4 Sep 23 2011, 06:02 AM
Yea mate I have watched this alot since u sent it to me.....i am working on this technique and will attempt to incorporate it into my playing...thanks again!
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 23 2011, 06:12 AM
haha yeah, it's addictive. It's in my list on solos to learn. I love it.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 23 2011, 07:33 AM
How about this one? I always recommend it to anyone who wants to see the real deal regarding articulation skills
Posted by: Ben Higgins Sep 23 2011, 08:33 AM
Damn right ! It's the same with vibrato too. Remember, the fingers are just the point of contact but the motion itself uses the wrist and the forearm.
Fingers on their own do not have enough strength and control so to get the really juicy bends and vibrato you need to learn to make your fingers, wrist and forearm work together in harmony
Posted by: JaxN4 Sep 23 2011, 09:44 AM
Now that would be an awesome lesson...hint hint
Posted by: zoom Sep 24 2011, 10:29 AM
Flip a dipper
"He Sucks" WOW!
I love it!!
I find bending hard. What's the Secret?
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Sep 24 2011, 12:13 PM
When I look at it more carefully, as much as the wrist is moving forward/backward (and that is not a big movement), the forearm plays a major role too, with the rotating movement.
Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Sep 24 2011, 12:20 PM
As I probably stated before in some previous threads and posts, I never studied vibrato as a technique but I always used my ears and tried to imitate my favorite lines be it guitar, vocals, sax or any other instrument that could be mimicked by using bending and vibrato.
As Daniel said, the movement is clearly done from the wrist, but it's a matter of personal taste regarding how wide or fast the vibrato is executed or when the vibrato occurs when bending and wanting to articulate a certain note by using vibrato immediately afterwards.
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