Guitar Overdubbing Question |
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Sep 11 2009, 12:17 PM |
is it better to record the guitar many different times as tight as possible for the overdub or is it better to just use the same recording and duplicate it?
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Sep 11 2009, 01:00 PM |
You can't use the same recording since it'll sound weak out of phase.
Rerecord as tight as you can! ...several times and put a perfectly clean guitar in the middle while the others are panned. EDIT: A metal guitar could be like this Perfectly clean in the middle The sound you want to stick out panned ~60% left and right (two different takes) And over distorted sound panned far righ and far left (two different takes) That are five takes in all. Try it and see what you think. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Sep 11 2009, 01:07 PM |
cheers dude, ill try it with my next recording
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Sep 11 2009, 06:06 PM |
In the Sept 2009 issue of Sound on Sound there's a good bit in the Q&A section on this.
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Sep 11 2009, 09:12 PM |
Separate tracks is always better. And try not to use too much distortion as the two overdriven guitars will add up the compression. Those subtle differences in playing when recording 2nd take is what makes the riffin huge in the recording.
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Sep 11 2009, 11:26 PM |
What about solos?
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Sep 12 2009, 03:03 PM |
What about solos? Solos are ovedubbed as well, but in a different way and not that often. You can for example add a nice harmonizing sequence to the solo, playing thirds on the overdubbed track to spice it up a bit if you feel that the part is a bit "weak" in that particular area. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 12 2009, 04:56 PM |
-------------------- www.youtube.com/Wallimann
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Sep 12 2009, 06:20 PM |
Hehe!
Yeah, of course... :-) -------------------- www.youtube.com/Wallimann
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Sep 22 2009, 03:54 PM |
In Blind Guardian pretty much everything gets doubled At least doubled...
As the others already said, if you want to double a take you HAVE to record it a second time, just copying your first take will not have the effect that you want, it will alway sound mono, no matter how you pan it and it will also never sound fat and big. Of course you should play as exact as possible, the more takes you plan to layer the better you have to play, otherwise it will sound horrible in the end, using headphones is a good thing here. And I also recommend not to use too much distortion cause it adds up in the end and what sounds ok with only one track will sound overdistorted and muddy when you double it. Another good thing is to alter the sound a bit, or even use different amps, play around a bit with different setups until you find the sound that you like. -------------------- Guitars: various Gibson Les Pauls / Gibson J 45
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