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Jan 29 2014, 01:02 PM
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in our rulers "state of the union" address " , he wants America to raise its minimum wage to 10.10 an hour. Sounds good and kind and bla, bla bla , but that is almost 3 dollars an hour more than what it is now. Obama (you noticed how I capitalized his name to show respect that I don't have) talks about minimum wage jobs as if they are supposed to be the jobs that people raise their family on, They are starter jobs, now sometimes thats all people can find(see the current economy for many examples, under our rulers implementation), but for the vast majority these are young kids, that if they have any brains, usually have a raise beyond that within 3 months. despite the proof for how this trick has always hurt the ones the democrats say they are trying to help
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-...se-unemployment it has always been in their bag of tricks that some fall for time and time again do they have minimum wages in your country ? |
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Jan 29 2014, 02:32 PM
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Our president is doing something similar nowadays and the results that are being predicted are the same that the stated here:
"If he gets his way, and the federal minimum wage is increased to $9 per hour from the current $7.25, it will raise the cost of labor in an economy that is hovering just above recession levels. Higher labor costs mean fewer people get hired. Employers have to find ways to do more with less and look for other ways to economize. Unskilled workers get laid off, replaced by machines and higher-skill workers who are more valuable. " In my country the things are difficult (as in many other countries). There is a lot of corruption, and politicians stealing money as it usually happens, and there are also very powerful rich people who can "stop" the country if there is something in the politician decisions that they don't like. I can notice some good intentions in their goal that is based in letting our industries grow, but they don't' implement good strategies and plans so in the end everything gets worse and people is unhappy. -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 29 2014, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (vonhotch @ Jan 29 2014, 09:29 AM)  I don't follow politics much, but stuff like this always reminds me of a quote by Thomas Jefferson. "A gov't powerful enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take it away." I think all this would do is cause problems with small business's that can't afford to pay that, and the bigger companies that can are just gonna jack their prices up to compensate anyway. Yup and as they typically want it, the poor and the rich. No middle ground what so ever. It upsets me because I started my job 9 years ago at the price they want minimum wage to be. So I went from having a fighting chance, to now I make enough to get by and get some guitars here and there. If it hits that price and the company doesn't compensate it, well I am now poor and may as well apply for some food stamps and government assistance. 
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Jan 29 2014, 06:35 PM
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The exec order of $10.10 an hour will be for contracted federal agency employees only. It's currently $9.00 an hour.
The proposed across the board federal min wage will have to get through two houses of congress. Pretty unlikely. 12 states already have a min wage higher than the fed level. The USA is ranked 23rd in the minimum v. median wage in the world. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 29 2014, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 29 2014, 09:35 AM) The exec order of $10.10 an hour will be for contracted federal agency employees only. It's currently $9.00 an hour. The proposed across the board federal min wage will have to get through two houses of congress. Pretty unlikely. 12 states already have a min wage higher than the fed level. The USA is ranked 23rd in the minimum v. median wage in the world. This is correct, but I don't believe he has the authority to raise anyones minimum wages on his own. Federal or Private, Does it need to be raised? Maybe so, but it is beyond his enumerated powers to do it by himself IMO. A couple stories out today on other executive over reach. You may agree with it now, but we will see what people think when executive over reach is done by the other party in the future if this allowed to continue.Where does it end? http://washingtonexaminer.com/attorney-gen...article/2543100 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...3559838308.html |
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Jan 29 2014, 11:49 PM
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Sadly, more and more Americans are raising their family on minimum wage jobs. Those folks with nice, higher paying, jobs usually think min wage jobs are only for teenagers. Again sadly this isn't true anymore.
 Half of Min Wage earners are younger, but HALF ARE NOT. The "other half" are between 25-65 and earning minimum wage to feed their families. Here are the Dept of labor Statistics. We have not hat this many people close to or at poverty in 50 years. It's around 5 million people. And that's not including folks not on the books. http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2013/ted_20130325.htm Wages have been stagnant in the U.S. for median income workers for nearly 50 YEARS accounting for inflation. On top of that, in the "great recession" many of the jobs eliminated never came back are not going to come back so now you will find people serving coffee at starbucks with graduate degrees and the people that used to have those jobs are among the "long term unemployed". But I digress  In point of fact, Obama is only changing min wage for federal works on federal contracts. He simply "asked" the rest of the nations biz owners to follow suit. Not a demand, not a federal action, not a law, just a simple request to pay workers a bit more. That seems like a overdue request to be honest. But I have noticed a huge negative response on fox news and from right leaning media in general. As if he banished congress or something. Sad.QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 29 2014, 07:02 AM) in our rulers "state of the union" address " , he wants America to raise its minimum wage to 10.10 an hour. Sounds good and kind and bla, bla bla , but that is almost 3 dollars an hour more than what it is now. Obama (you noticed how I capitalized his name to show respect that I don't have) talks about minimum wage jobs as if they are supposed to be the jobs that people raise their family on, They are starter jobs, now sometimes thats all people can find(see the current economy for many examples, under our rulers implementation), but for the vast majority these are young kids, that if they have any brains, usually have a raise beyond that within 3 months. despite the proof for how this trick has always hurt the ones the democrats say they are trying to help http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-...se-unemployment it has always been in their bag of tricks that some fall for time and time again do they have minimum wages in your country ? Well said But "facts" seem to rarely penetrate the bubble as it were QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 29 2014, 12:35 PM) The exec order of $10.10 an hour will be for contracted federal agency employees only. It's currently $9.00 an hour.
The proposed across the board federal min wage will have to get through two houses of congress. Pretty unlikely. 12 states already have a min wage higher than the fed level. The USA is ranked 23rd in the minimum v. median wage in the world. |
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Jan 30 2014, 12:17 AM
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We Americans have never been real good with 'facts'.
As for fed min wage - and I didn't know this either but yes, the prez can by exec order raise the min wage of federally contracted employees - he, technically, is their (the fed contractors') boss. Also, that raise of 1 dollar and 10 cents will only apply to new contracts. So, in actuality, a minuscule amount of actual workers. *Minimum wage in the States should be $15.00 an hour. Min wage jobs haven't been entry level for kids work since the mid 70s. Which exactly coincides with the time CEO pay in this country went from being about 20 X's the average employee wages to 354 X's the average employee wages. RIP Pete Seeger. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 30 2014, 12:33 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Jan 30 2014, 05:30 PM
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Yes, albeit very small. Sometimes I have to hire guys and sometimes I don't. Sometimes it's one guy and other times it's 20. I have a business license, I pay city business tax and I do a full sched C for profit and loss. I know what a hassle being the boss can be. I make my living as a guitar player but I also contract gigs (and recording sessions) with and for other musicians. I have to deal with other subcontractors - food, sound, transpo, occasionally insurance, tax IDs, W9s, W2s, union contract forms, release forms etc., make sure everybody who I hire gets paid and replace those (quickly) who either don't show up, get sick or screw up badly enough. I'm not dealing with un-skilled workers so It all pays above minimum wage.
I've also worked since I was 15 years old starting in 1978. Fed unemployment was 10% at that time (very difficult to get any type of job), min wage was $2.65 an hour. In Jan of '79 it rose to $2.90 (about 12%) ... I didn't lose my job at the gift shop. I have a family and a mortgage. My wife works too. She teaches part-time at the community college. We don't make a ton of money but I love my job (and she likes her's). For me that equalizes it. The hassle it may be for me or for you to deal with the BS associated with being in charge is really not related to someone else's right to earn a living wage. Also, what I personally think min wage should be has nothing to do with what it will be. That's for two houses of congress to decide. My bet is that it won't be raised at all. Or, possibly only by $1.10 and/or scheduled to rise every one or two years with inflation percentage wise. This post has been edited by klasaine: Jan 30 2014, 06:09 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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