Satch, Vai, Paul, Nita, Polyphia.
Gabriel Leopardi
Jan 21 2020, 02:09 PM
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I don't like to be that "old" man saying this.. but honestly this video is so clear.

The difference between the older guys (Satch, Vai, Paul) and the others when improvising is huge... don't you think so?



One of my favorite parts of the video is how Paul enjoys Satch's jam. biggrin.gif

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Listen to how many times they "don't " play

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 27 2020, 05:29 AM) *


Listen to how many times they "don't " play


And the amazing build up to the end!
Acutely demonstrating the very wide chasm between the 'real' thing ... and not the real thing.

There is a bar in the arts. You can choose to ignore it but you'll never be taken seriously if you don't at least try to get close to it.

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Very true. Some very good points! The instagram guys are all much more in their element when they are doing the instagram thing over a light backing track. The track is just scenery though. They are not doing much with it as ken says. Very much just waiting to play. The isolation of having technology rather than other musicians to jam with seems to be creating more and more of these types of players.

I can appreciate the skill of execution, but I do have to agree that it's a very one sided musical conversation. Just not that interesting.

It's way better than they did on stage with Vai and Satch though. They were just so outclassed that it was almost hard to watch. At least letting them sorta play with each other over a very light backing, they sorta show of what they actually do. E.G. .Instagram shredding smile.gif


QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 27 2020, 05:26 PM) *
And the amazing build up to the end!
Acutely demonstrating the very wide chasm between the 'real' thing ... and not the real thing.

There is a bar in the arts. You can choose to ignore it but you'll never be taken seriously if you don't at least try to get close to it.


That's why I suggested the "instagram jam" next year at namm smile.gif Only instagram players, little or no backing track, etc.
I didn't realize til you mentioned it but yeah, bit light on chords!!!! smile.gif

QUOTE (klasaine @ Jan 26 2020, 04:49 PM) *
Old guy rant alert!

Maybe they're more comfortable but it just sounds like mindless, out of time wanking to me ... and a lot of questionable note choices. Nobody's playing rhythm. Not one friggin' chord. They're just waiting to play. No real interaction with the drums and bass either. That's not a 'jam'. May as well just have had a backing track. Yuck! Sorry but I draw the line at this amateur BS playing. *The dude with the ball cap is the only one that sort of knows where the time is and actually tells a little story.

Ever have a conversation with someone who's just waiting to talk? That's what this is.

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- Gabriel Leopardi   Satch, Vai, Paul, Nita, Polyphia.   Jan 21 2020, 02:09 PM
- - klasaine   Yeah, but the level and caliber of 'real world...   Jan 21 2020, 06:37 PM
- - Phil66   Joe, Steve, Nina and Paul all have more stage pres...   Jan 21 2020, 09:18 PM
- - Mertay   Good observation, Polyphia guys may be much younge...   Jan 22 2020, 09:54 AM
|- - Gabriel Leopardi   QUOTE (Mertay @ Jan 22 2020, 05:54 AM) Go...   Jan 22 2020, 02:00 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 22 2020, 01...   Jan 22 2020, 02:24 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 22 2020, 01...   Jan 22 2020, 03:07 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Being good at improv is a really tough thing these...   Jan 22 2020, 10:49 PM
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- - Todd Simpson   The "young guys" are the dudes from POLY...   Jan 22 2020, 07:14 PM
|- - Phil66   I'd get up on stage and and go toe to toe with...   Jan 22 2020, 07:21 PM
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- - klasaine   Eric Johnson and Scott Henderson can match them. P...   Jan 22 2020, 10:37 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Well said Those players are also from the old sch...   Jan 23 2020, 09:38 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 23 2020, 09:38 ...   Jan 23 2020, 09:50 PM
|- - jstcrsn   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 23 2020, 09:5...   Jan 26 2020, 09:14 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jan 26 2020, 09:14 PM) T...   Jan 27 2020, 12:58 AM
|- - klasaine   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jan 26 2020, 04:5...   Jan 27 2020, 06:15 AM
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- - jstcrsn   I love NAMM stuff , her is some wisdom   Jan 23 2020, 01:27 AM
- - Kristofer Dahl   Very nice jam! Maybe it was easy for the old ...   Jan 23 2020, 08:04 PM
- - Gabriel Leopardi   I can see how young guys are much comfortable here...   Jan 26 2020, 07:20 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   they do seem a lot more comfortable doing a bit mo...   Jan 26 2020, 09:31 PM
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- - klasaine   Old guy rant alert! Maybe they're more co...   Jan 26 2020, 09:49 PM
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