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Oct 28 2018, 10:02 AM
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Hello folks,
I know when you play a major scale and its relative minor they sound different, major sounds happy, minor sounds sad but I do think the happy/sad thing is more apparent with chords. What I don't understand is that when I'm improvising they can both sound happy or sad, to me anyway. Can someone explain please. Thanks -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 31 2018, 08:13 PM
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Short answer ... you can't.
If the notes are exactly the same (maj v. relative min) and in the same order - without some type of harmonic 'background' information - then no, there is no difference and one wouldn't be able to tell. The reason that we may want to 'relate' a set of notes to either maj or min is for understanding how that set of notes functions in relation to a backing that may, at some point, be there. Now, we can construct melodies in such a way as to imply major or minor. For example, using the C major (Ionian) and/or A natural (Aeolian) minor (the relative minor) scale, try these two melodies. C D E F E C A B G - for Major. A B C E D C B G A - for Minor. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 31 2018, 08:19 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Nov 1 2018, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Oct 31 2018, 08:13 PM)  Short answer ... you can't. If the notes are exactly the same (maj v. relative min) and in the same order - without some type of harmonic 'background' information - then no, there is no difference and one wouldn't be able to tell. The reason that we may want to 'relate' a set of notes to either maj or min is for understanding how that set of notes functions in relation to a backing that may, at some point, be there. Now, we can construct melodies in such a way as to imply major or minor. For example, using the C major (Ionian) and/or A natural (Aeolian) minor (the relative minor) scale, try these two melodies. C D E F E C A B G - for Major. A B C E D C B G A - for Minor. Thanks Ken, I thought I was really missing something, Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Phil66 Major Minor Question Oct 28 2018, 10:02 AM
MonkeyDAthos I can understand the happy and sad feeling, but I ... Oct 28 2018, 04:35 PM Phil66 It may have something to do with me. When I improv... Oct 28 2018, 05:31 PM
Todd Simpson Minor scales and chords in general do sound a bit ... Oct 28 2018, 07:04 PM
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Phil66 Thanks Todd, I have a lot of musical understanding... Oct 28 2018, 07:43 PM Todd Simpson It's a long road to be sure You have good ins... Oct 28 2018, 08:13 PM
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Phil66 I always wondered about it because let's say w... Oct 28 2018, 09:25 PM Todd Simpson Even played exactly the same, I'd say one coul... Oct 29 2018, 01:41 AM Phil66 I don't understand. How can you tell if it... Oct 29 2018, 08:26 AM Caelumamittendum QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 29 2018, 09:26 AM) I ... Oct 29 2018, 10:47 AM Todd Simpson Ahh!! I think i see what are saying now. ... Oct 30 2018, 01:13 AM
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Caelumamittendum QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 28 2018, 10:25 PM) I ... Oct 29 2018, 01:54 AM
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Phil66 Thanks, I kinda get that but I didn't understa... Oct 29 2018, 12:43 PM MonkeyDAthos QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 29 2018, 12:43 PM) Th... Oct 29 2018, 03:03 PM
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Phil66 Todd, is that what you meant buddy? Oct 29 2018, 07:23 PM Phil66 Thanks Todd,
I'll study this a bit more in de... Oct 31 2018, 08:11 AM Todd Simpson Happy to help Let me know if you have any questio... Oct 31 2018, 08:29 PM
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Todd Simpson My reply was so long winded I don't think it h... Nov 3 2018, 02:17 AM
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PosterBoy You'd need to emphasis one of the notes as the... Nov 1 2018, 03:51 PM Phil66 QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Nov 1 2018, 03:51 PM) ... Nov 1 2018, 05:36 PM klasaine QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 1 2018, 09:36 AM) I a... Nov 2 2018, 11:24 PM Phil66 QUOTE (klasaine @ Nov 2 2018, 11:24 PM) N... Nov 2 2018, 11:37 PM
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Phil66 Thanks Todd, no worries, I'm not always good a... Nov 3 2018, 03:50 PM Todd Simpson Sounds like a plan!! Your ear is spot on, ... Nov 3 2018, 07:22 PM
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Phil66 Maybe you misunderstood me buddy, I said "whe... Nov 3 2018, 10:48 PM Todd Simpson Yup. Misunderstood again. Thanks for the clarifica... Nov 4 2018, 05:13 AM
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Phil66 I'd did help a little thank you, as I said, re... Nov 4 2018, 10:52 AM Todd Simpson If you can memorize that chart I put up from the s... Nov 5 2018, 03:06 AM
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Phil66 Thanks Todd,
Yeah, I know the notes on the E, I k... Nov 5 2018, 08:22 AM Todd Simpson As long as you know where the notes are on the E, ... Nov 6 2018, 03:55 AM
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Phil66 Well I watched a you tube video (can't find it... Nov 6 2018, 08:12 AM Todd Simpson The "CAGED" System is basically a way to... Nov 8 2018, 03:31 AM
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Caelumamittendum Youtube threw this at me randomly, and I thought i... Nov 7 2018, 09:50 AM Phil66 Wow thanks Todd, I really appreciate you putting t... Nov 8 2018, 01:13 PM
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