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Posted by: eddiecat Sep 21 2007, 08:22 PM

Hi Muris, my name is Eddie.
First of all I'd like to tell you that I find you an incredible guitarist,
not only technically (that's more than obvious), but also for your musical taste.
However fast or slow (unfortunately quite seldom) you play, you always hit incredibly beautiful notes.
And I think that that is where the pure talent is.
Now I would have a little request for you, hope you will agree:
I'm currently working hard on the 4 basic scales (theory and practice),
but I feel that a little more simpler and slower lesson on alternate picking
could help me and all GMC beginners-intermediate a lot.
Do you think you could do one? I mean something with not more than 2-3 boxes
and a little less notes than your usual standard,
so I could really concentrate on my right hand still having a little fun...
Sorry for the long request...
I hope you agree.
Thank you, Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 21 2007, 09:02 PM

No problem at all Eddie smile.gif

I'll try to make one as soon as possible.
And thanks for your kind words!!

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 21 2007, 09:55 PM

Thank you very, very much Muris.
Can't wait for it!
Cheers, Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 21 2007, 09:57 PM

You're welcome. wink.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 21 2007, 10:49 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 21 2007, 10:57 PM) *
You're welcome. wink.gif


Hello there again, Muris!
I do have another little question for you:
is there a particular pick size you would recommend?
As a pro, what would you say the best pick would be?
I would like to stick to one from now on.
Thank you for your helpfulness and patience.
Cheers, Eddie.

Posted by: muris Sep 21 2007, 10:55 PM

That's pretty individual matter Eddie.
But also fat pick doesn't need to be heavy,depends of material as well.
Anyhow,for acoustic(cause strings are from 010 and above) I prefer about 1mm.
But for electric I've used Dunlop 2mm.
It's really heavy one and good for having powerful attack on string without hitting it too much.
And now when I'm endorsed with Light Pick I use Heavy tip for it(which is more than just 2 mm I think).
This is still the way I like it...
Try many gauges and see what fits you the best. smile.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 21 2007, 11:08 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 21 2007, 11:55 PM) *
That's pretty individual matter Eddie.
But also fat pick doesn't need to be heavy,depends of material as well.
Anyhow,for acoustic(cause strings are from 010 and above) I prefer about 1mm.
But for electric I've used Dunlop 2mm.
It's really heavy one and good for having powerful attack on string without hitting it too much.
And now when I'm endorsed with Light Pick I use Heavy tip for it(which is more than just 2 mm I think).
This is still the way I like it...
Try many gauges and see what fits you the best. smile.gif


Ok, so I think I'll go for a 2mm pick!!!
I'll let you know how it goes!
I'm practicing really hard, just practising scales and reading theory all day long.
Started about a month and a half ago...
My motivation is like growing from day to day!
Don't wanna be a bugger, but I think I'll get back to you whenever I'll need to.
So, ok with 2mm?
Cheers and thanks a lot!

Posted by: muris Sep 22 2007, 12:34 AM

QUOTE (eddiecat @ Sep 22 2007, 12:08 AM) *
Ok, so I think I'll go for a 2mm pick!!!
I'll let you know how it goes!
I'm practicing really hard, just practising scales and reading theory all day long.
Started about a month and a half ago...
My motivation is like growing from day to day!
Don't wanna be a bugger, but I think I'll get back to you whenever I'll need to.
So, ok with 2mm?
Cheers and thanks a lot!


Yeah,you should try with 2mm and let me know is it working fine for you.
And don't hesitate to ask whatever you want,just use proper sub-board. smile.gif
You're welcome once more!!

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 22 2007, 12:59 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 22 2007, 01:34 AM) *
Yeah,you should try with 2mm and let me know is it working fine for you.
And don't hesitate to ask whatever you want,just use proper sub-board. smile.gif
You're welcome once more!!


Ooops! Sorry, this pick thing should be discussed in the gear forum, right?
Ok, last thing: I just got back from a Music Store, where I sat down for a while
trying out different picks. I ended up choosing a Dunlop 1, 35 mm.
I tried out different picks, but I immediately felt comfortable with that one!
Thanx again for the advice, and just to take it back to the proper forum
I would like to remind you the alternate picking beginners-intermediate lesson. smile.gif
Bye, Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 22 2007, 01:21 AM

Picking lesson is on its way,no worries wink.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 23 2007, 04:11 AM

Hi Muris, how are things?
I can't resist, I've got to tell you this.
Waiting for your lesson on alternate picking for beginners
I'm practicing it on my own doing scales (the 4 basic) all day long.
I followed your advice yesterday and took a quite thick pick, and guess what?
Without noticing my right hand closed itself in a fist!!! tongue.gif
It feels so natural, and my control, accuracy and timing is much better,
not to mention my wrist movement!
I'd like to share this improvement with you and give an advice
to all beginners out there: take some time (don't be ashamed)
to choose the pick you feel suits you the best,
it will help your right hand! I'm not kidding!
Thank you very much, Maestro.
Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 23 2007, 04:13 AM

Wow,those are great news Eddie!!! smile.gif

I'm glad you managed it quite well,now just incorporate it into everything you play!
Bravo! cool.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 23 2007, 10:56 AM

QUOTE (eddiecat @ Sep 21 2007, 09:22 PM) *
Hi Muris, my name is Eddie.
First of all I'd like to tell you that I find you an incredible guitarist,
not only technically (that's more than obvious), but also for your musical taste.
However fast or slow (unfortunately quite seldom) you play, you always hit incredibly beautiful notes.
And I think that that is where the pure talent is.
Now I would have a little request for you, hope you will agree:
I'm currently working hard on the 4 basic scales (theory and practice),
but I feel that a little more simpler and slower lesson on alternate picking
could help me and all GMC beginners-intermediate a lot.
Do you think you could do one? I mean something with not more than 2-3 boxes
and a little less notes than your usual standard,
so I could really concentrate on my right hand still having a little fun...
Sorry for the long request...
I hope you agree.
Thank you, Eddie



Short update,it's up and ready to be published. wink.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 23 2007, 03:30 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 23 2007, 11:56 AM) *
Short update,it's up and ready to be published. wink.gif


blink.gif That fast?!
Thank you, thank you, thank you,
on behalf of all beginners, I'm sure.
I've read different threads
and I understand there are quite
a lot of them out there!
If you plan on doing more "easier" lessons in the future
you're more than welcome.
And if not, don't worry,
I'll pop up to haunt you with new requests! wink.gif
Thanx again, Maestro.
Cheers, Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 23 2007, 07:26 PM

As the matter of fact,I think I'll do much more beginner stuff in the future. smile.gif
There are advanced players at GMC for sure,but also the newbies.
All I need to do is to think what I needed the most when I was in early stages of playing.
And I needed many things. wink.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 23 2007, 08:32 PM

Sometimes the so called 'easy stuff' can be a whole lot harder to play with conviction making it sound 'good' and explain clearly. If anyone can I'm sure Muris will.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 23 2007, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 23 2007, 09:32 PM) *
Sometimes the so called 'easy stuff' can be a whole lot harder to play with conviction making it sound 'good' and explain clearly. If anyone can I'm sure Muris will.

Cheers,
Tony



Hi Tony!
I'm still wondering why you're not among the instructors...
I'm very well aware of what you said
and that is why I asked HIM (and Wallimann, btw)
for "easier" lessons, putting easier in inverted commas.
Cheers,
Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 23 2007, 08:59 PM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 23 2007, 09:32 PM) *
Sometimes the so called 'easy stuff' can be a whole lot harder to play with conviction making it sound 'good' and explain clearly. If anyone can I'm sure Muris will.

Cheers,
Tony


Thanks Tony smile.gif

Well said,simple if often harder.

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 28 2007, 02:52 AM

Hey Muris!
I can't even begin to tell you how fantastic your lesson is!
Been practicing it since yesterday, and can't get enough of it...
My AP starts to come pretty natural. Oh man, I love it!
It intergrates perfectly with Andrew's lessons on scales/boxes
and this is the kind of lesson we beginners really need.
Keep those beginner lessons coming!
Thank you!
Cheers, Eddie

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 02:57 AM

QUOTE (eddiecat @ Sep 23 2007, 01:54 PM) *
Hi Tony!
I'm still wondering why you're not among the instructors...
I'm very well aware of what you said
and that is why I asked HIM (and Wallimann, btw)
for "easier" lessons, putting easier in inverted commas.
Cheers,
Eddie


laugh.gif No video camera and not enough ability rule me out straight away Eddie but thanks for thinking I'm good enough to be an instructor biggrin.gif .

It's put a big smile on my face biggrin.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

Maybe if I offer to be Kris' gopher for a year he might consider it wink.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 06:43 AM

QUOTE (eddiecat @ Sep 28 2007, 03:52 AM) *
Hey Muris!
I can't even begin to tell you how fantastic your lesson is!
Been practicing it since yesterday, and can't get enough of it...
My AP starts to come pretty natural. Oh man, I love it!
It intergrates perfectly with Andrew's lessons on scales/boxes
and this is the kind of lesson we beginners really need.
Keep those beginner lessons coming!
Thank you!
Cheers, Eddie



That's great,glad I helped with that lesson!!
I'll make more of that kind,no worries at all. smile.gif
And Tony is going to make video lesson. wink.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 28 2007, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 28 2007, 07:43 AM) *
That's great,glad I helped with that lesson!!
I'll make more of that kind,no worries at all. smile.gif
And Tony is going to make video lesson. wink.gif


I'm really glad you're going to make others of that kind! Thanks!
I've been practicing your lesson ever since it was published,
but from today I added something to it:
after practicing your exercise very accurately, I take an hour to play the 5 boxes one after the other
as described in Andrew's diagams (major and minor) over your backing,
and then I just "search" for melodies in c major and c major pentatonic on the first half
of the backing track, and then I do the same in minor over the second half.
Do you think it is a good idea?
Hope you understood what I mean...
P.S. Can't wait for Tony's video lesson. I hope that smile is still on his face smile.gif
Cheers, Eddie

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 11:20 PM

Don't be afraid to do anything Eddie,exploring is the right way to go.
As long as it sounds ok(tho tastes are different), you are going on the right track.
I mentioned this before on forum but will say here again.
Would love to see you playing lesson in video,mine or from any other instructor,doesn't matter.
If you could post it sometime,that'd be awesome. smile.gif

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 28 2007, 11:25 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 29 2007, 12:20 AM) *
Don't be afraid to do anything Eddie,exploring is the right way to go.
As long as it sounds ok(tho tastes are different), you are going on the right track.
I mentioned this before on forum but will say here again.
Would love to see you playing lesson in video,mine or from any other instructor,doesn't matter.
If you could post it sometime,that'd be awesome. smile.gif


Well, remember I just started a few months ago!!!
Besides, your lesson is the only one I'm actually practicing!
I'm spending so much time on theory and basics...
But as soon as I don't feel too ashamed I will for sure!
Hope it won't take me ages!!!
Feels so good knowing you're out there somewhere smile.gif
Back to basics!!!
Eddie

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 11:37 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 27 2007, 11:43 PM) *
And Tony is going to make video lesson. wink.gif



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Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 11:42 PM

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I'm not kidding tho Tony,you Must do it once!! cool.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 28 2007, 11:48 PM

OK Muris,
How about if I record a video lesson at my daughter's 21st birthday party - not too long to wait wink.gif tongue.gif

Cheers,
Tony


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Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 11:53 PM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 29 2007, 12:48 AM) *
OK Muris,
How about if I record a video lesson at my daughter's 21st birthday party - not too long to wait wink.gif tongue.gif

Cheers,
Tony
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Ahhh,you're avoiding stuff again!!! laugh.gif
Ok,what about small jam instead of full lesson then? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 29 2007, 12:10 AM

With the latency I get it might be quicker to wait 'til my little one's 21 st wink.gif . Interesting idea though Muris smile.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

ps I'm allergic to strawberry jam (and strawberries in all forms unsure.gif )

Posted by: eddiecat Sep 29 2007, 01:57 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 29 2007, 01:10 AM) *
With the latency I get it might be quicker to wait 'til my little one's 21 st wink.gif . Interesting idea though Muris smile.gif .

Cheers,
Tony

ps I'm allergic to strawberry jam (and strawberries in all forms unsure.gif )



Hope that smile is still on your face! smile.gif
What about "strawberry fields"?
I kind of like those! wink.gif

Posted by: leedbreak Nov 3 2007, 01:47 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 23 2007, 01:26 PM) *
As the matter of fact,I think I'll do much more beginner stuff in the future.


All I need to do is to think what I needed the most when I was in early stages of playing.


Well let see, in your early stages maybe a few Bach with one hand, or some Metallica with your toes would be a nice to start, since you have past all that. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


No, but seriously you know how much we love the melody stuff. Just make a few with less speed and less movement but keep the AP and the melody there.

I just don't dig the plain scale stuff. I know we all need it but it does not drive the desire that keeps one playing for hours on end.

We all would love them no matter where we are at in our playing. But at the same time you are making these fast enough so don't feel anyone is any way displeased, cause I know I am not. Thanks

Posted by: muris Nov 3 2007, 01:59 AM

That's good to know,thanks smile.gif

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