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GMC Forum _ PRACTICE ROOM _ Announcement: Gmc Rec Program Is Live!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 18 2009, 10:04 PM

Dear all,

It gives me great pleasure to announce the rollout of the GMC REC program. For those of you that don't know what this is, we have been discussing it in the forums for a little while now. The basic idea is that you can gain a forum qualification by submitting a video of you playing a GMC lesson. It will be graded by the instructors, and as you grow in experience and level of playing you can get successively higher and higher titles, evolving from a "Learning Chord Basher" to an "Ultimate Guitar God". We hope that one day this will form the basis for a GMC diploma of some sort, but for now, it allows people to gauge and measure their progress objectively, and build up a validate record of their abilities.

We have a new forum for the REC program http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showforum=152, and there are full instructions on how to submit videos for grading http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?&showtopic=25745. If you are interested in the criteria the instructors will be using to grade you, they are described http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=25746.

The final part is that we will be maintaining a http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/REC_Score_Board of all GMC:ers in the program so you can see at a glance how you rate against other GMC members, and you will also have an individualized page that keeps a record of your achievements - a great thing to show to a new band who might want to audition you for instance smile.gif

So what are you all waiting for - lets get this show on the road!


Posted by: Ctodd Mar 18 2009, 10:08 PM

This is ridiculous!

at this rate GMC will take over the world in 10 years laugh.gif

just got a webcam not too long ago, now I just need to figure it out.

can't wait to really dive into these lessons.


Posted by: Frederik Mar 18 2009, 10:08 PM

This is cool wink.gif think i would like it
But couldnt someone get demoralized by others faster growth ?

Posted by: Tolek Mar 18 2009, 10:09 PM

Yeeha! Let´s see how it goes. smile.gif

Posted by: Fran Mar 18 2009, 10:09 PM

This is awesome news, REC is going to rock the house! cool.gif


Posted by: sted Mar 18 2009, 10:10 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Mar 18 2009, 09:08 PM) *
This is cool wink.gif think i would like it
But couldnt someone get demoralized by others faster growth ?


The support round here is so immense I cant see anyone getting demoralized, I think this is a top idea.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 18 2009, 10:10 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Mar 18 2009, 05:08 PM) *
This is cool wink.gif think i would like it
But couldnt someone get demoralized by others faster growth ?


It's completely optional, so you don't have to enter if that kind of competition doesn't suit you smile.gif

C'mon - who's going to be the first to get a video up for grading???

Posted by: Fran Mar 18 2009, 10:13 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 18 2009, 10:10 PM) *
It's completely optional, so you don't have to enter if that kind of competition doesn't suit you smile.gif

C'mon - who's going to be the first to get a video up for grading???


I'll upload a couple vids later for sure smile.gif

For all members out there, remember: if you have recorded any GMC lesson in the past and uploaded it to youtube, you can already submit your takes pasting the link at the REC forum!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 18 2009, 10:16 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 18 2009, 10:10 PM) *
C'mon - who's going to be the first to get a video up for grading???


Yes - we want to see a video for grading!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Frederik Mar 18 2009, 10:16 PM

Just a quick one.. Can u use a Web Cam only for recording, or is the sound quality too bad?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 18 2009, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (Frederik @ Mar 18 2009, 10:16 PM) *
Just a quick one.. Can u use a Web Cam only for recording, or is the sound quality too bad?


You certianly can! smile.gif Best is if you first experiment with the placement of your amp etc (usually it's best to have it very close to your web camera's microphone)

Posted by: Bondy Mar 18 2009, 10:19 PM

Nice to see this up and running I will submit some video's for sure!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 18 2009, 10:23 PM

First experiment with the REC Program: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=25790! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Bondy Mar 18 2009, 10:25 PM

Nice job there Tolek biggrin.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 18 2009, 10:26 PM

QUOTE (Bondy @ Mar 18 2009, 10:25 PM) *
Nice job there Tolek biggrin.gif

Thanks. biggrin.gif Let´s see what the instructors say. smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 18 2009, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 18 2009, 05:26 PM) *
Thanks. biggrin.gif Let´s see what the instructors say. smile.gif


Took you 19 minutes? What kept you ????

Posted by: superize Mar 18 2009, 10:32 PM

I have added a vid too

Posted by: Tolek Mar 18 2009, 10:32 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 18 2009, 10:30 PM) *
Took you 19 minutes? What kept you ????

No. laugh.gif I recorded it a bit earlier. smile.gif For the MTP with Master Muris.

Posted by: Jakub Luptovec Mar 18 2009, 10:35 PM

Is there some sort of list of the titles availible?

Btw. how is the REC level being calculated? Arithmetic average of diff. level of all lessons?

With that, it would be kinda unfair towards begginers - they will have to outhweigth a much bigger number of low level lessons they will learn from start, or just ignore posting low level lessons, thus losing REC EXP.

Ohhh just noticed.... All hail our ultimate guitar god Muris ohmy.gif:O:O biggrin.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 18 2009, 10:39 PM

QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Mar 18 2009, 05:35 PM) *
Is there some sort of list of the titles availible?

Btw. how is the REC level being calculated? Arithmetic average of diff. level of all lessons?

With that, it would be kinda unfair towards begginers - they will have to outhweigth a much bigger number of low level lessons they will learn from start, or just ignore posting low level lessons, thus losing REC EXP.

Ohhh just noticed.... All hail our ultimate guitar god Muris ohmy.gif:O:O biggrin.gif



Read the original post - it has links to all of the rules! and answers all of your questions wink.gif

Posted by: berko Mar 18 2009, 10:45 PM

Woohoo, it's rollin' at last haha! Gotta warm up my camera... and my fingers... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Canis Mar 18 2009, 10:50 PM

Awesome! Time to record all the lessons I know ^^

Thanks a lot for taking the time and effort to do this biggrin.gif

Posted by: chast Mar 18 2009, 10:52 PM

Finally! smile.gif
I really like that program.
But I have a problem with one point in the rating system.

It's the rating of feel. I don't see any point how somebody could rate my impressions or what I feel when playing a piece of music.
And why is something like posture in the term of feeling ? I don't get that point.
I understand that confidence point.
But that's something different than feeling, at least imo.

In general, I don't like the term feeling in guitar playing.
There are so much people out there, who say that Petrucci doesn't have feeling.
He plays over 20 years and you can't say that somebody who plays for 20 years, doesn't have any passion (which is a feeling) for his instrument.
I really never understood that feeling thing in terms of playing guitar.
The only tunes in that I ever interpreted/hear feeling were Shawn Lanes Epilogue for Lisa and Lavendells Unborn.

Just my 2 cents wink.gif

Posted by: kasper Mar 18 2009, 10:55 PM

This is so awsome tongue.gif

now i guess i have to set up my webcam smile.gif


Posted by: Tolek Mar 18 2009, 10:58 PM

I just noticed that the placement of this REC-subforum in the Instructors Corner is a bit against the guidelines. biggrin.gif -> "See what the instructors do on their own turf (read only forum)." laugh.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 18 2009, 11:04 PM

Well you can post a thread but only instructors can reply to it, so it's fairly read only wink.gif

QUOTE (chast @ Mar 18 2009, 05:52 PM) *
It's the rating of feel. I don't see any point how somebody could rate my impressions or what I feel when playing a piece of music. ...


Don't get hung up on the exact word used to describe this, look at the description instead - its about how comfortable you are playing it, not whether or not you are portraying a particular feeling - in your example, Petrucci gets 5/5 for feel when he plays because he looks in control and comfortable playing, he gives you the feeling that he is born to do this.

Maybe we can find a better word for this but that is the intention. Its about your feel for the piece.

EDIT : 9500'th post!

Posted by: chast Mar 18 2009, 11:12 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 18 2009, 11:04 PM) *
Well you can post a thread but only instructors can reply to it, so it's fairly read only wink.gif



Don't get hung up on the exact word used to describe this, look at the description instead - its about how comfortable you are playing it, not whether or not you are portraying a particular feeling - in your example, Petrucci gets 5/5 for feel when he plays because he looks in control and comfortable playing, he gives you the feeling that he is born to do this.

Maybe we can find a better word for this but that is the intention. Its about your feel for the piece.

EDIT : 9500'th post!


This may sound stupid.
But why don't just call it control then ?
I will think a bit more, maybe I come up with a better word wink.gif

Posted by: berko Mar 18 2009, 11:14 PM

Great takes so far everyone! I've uploaded an older vid too smile.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 18 2009, 11:16 PM

QUOTE (chast @ Mar 18 2009, 06:12 PM) *
This may sound stupid.
But why don't just call it control then ?


Maybe that would work, but its a bit more than that - its control, fluidity, confidence, comfort - its hard to describe but you know it when you see it. Its the feeling you get when you see Muris playing any lesson of level 7 or below - absolute calm, comfort, even when playing fast stuff - he would get a 5. When Muris plays something like Extreme Neoclassic though, you can tell that he is playing closer to his limit and looks just a tiny bit less comfortable so would get a 4.9 wink.gif

It's about being in the moment and being one with your guitar to get a little metaphysical.

QUOTE (chast @ Mar 18 2009, 06:12 PM) *
I will think a bit more, maybe I come up with a better word wink.gif


All suggestions welcome!

Posted by: Fran Mar 18 2009, 11:24 PM

I always thought of "feel" regarding the way you make others feel when listening to you play rather than what one feels, although they might share many aspects if you are really good.

Posted by: skennington Mar 19 2009, 01:48 AM

WooHoooooo!!! Glad to see it launched. Keep in mind guys, as Andrew stated, we are looking to build on this program so it is work in progress. Don't worry too much atm about the way it is graded. Through a lesson up and see what the Instructors think. It's not a competition but rather another tool for improvement. smile.gif

A lot of you have already had feeback on lessons in the "uploads" section of GMC. Now go get some pay dirt for the time spent!

Posted by: ZakkWylde Mar 19 2009, 01:52 AM

Is it possible to post another version of the same lesson if you have improved, to get a better rating?

Posted by: Fran Mar 19 2009, 02:08 AM

QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Mar 19 2009, 01:52 AM) *
Is it possible to post another version of the same lesson if you have improved, to get a better rating?


Sure thing smile.gif

Posted by: jer Mar 19 2009, 02:20 AM

after watching the voting in Toleks thread it makes me think of Dancing With The Stars. My wife is obsessed with that show....

smile.gif



Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Mar 19 2009, 02:54 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 18 2009, 11:16 PM) *
Maybe that would work, but its a bit more than that - its control, fluidity, confidence, comfort - its hard to describe but you know it when you see it. Its the feeling you get when you see Muris playing any lesson of level 7 or below - absolute calm, comfort, even when playing fast stuff - he would get a 5. When Muris plays something like Extreme Neoclassic though, you can tell that he is playing closer to his limit and looks just a tiny bit less comfortable so would get a 4.9 wink.gif

It's about being in the moment and being one with your guitar to get a little metaphysical.



All suggestions welcome!

Perfect explanation Andrew cool.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Velvet Roger Mar 19 2009, 01:42 PM

Great that this is live now smile.gif

Posted by: Artemus Mar 19 2009, 01:48 PM

This is all pretty exciting stuff smile.gif
Chris Evans: I've enjoyed your takes very much!

Don't think I'm ready to join in yet but rest assured I will do in the future. Maybe a new webcam will get me in the mood? Maplins is just down the road.. do I, don't I? Hmm

Posted by: Chris Evans Mar 19 2009, 01:54 PM

QUOTE (Artemus @ Mar 19 2009, 12:48 PM) *
This is all pretty exciting stuff smile.gif
Chris Evans: I've enjoyed your takes very much!


thanks very much smile.gif

Its great to get some feedback for many hours of hard work we all put into playing, and this program is as you say "pretty exciting stuff" I`m loving the buzz we are getting on the forum, and getting to see the great amount of effort everyone puts in to learning to play guitar, its great! smile.gif

Posted by: David Wallimann Mar 19 2009, 02:07 PM

Very nice take Chris, I rated it as well.

I would like to suggest that all participants also post the link to the lesson they are covering.
It will probably save some time while rating.
Would that be possible?

Posted by: Tolek Mar 19 2009, 02:12 PM

QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Mar 19 2009, 02:07 PM) *
Very nice take Chris, I rated it as well.

I would like to suggest that all participants also post the link to the lesson they are covering.
It will probably save some time while rating.
Would that be possible?

Actually, this is already in the guidance. smile.gif Members are supposed a link to lessons they cover.

Posted by: djohnneay Mar 19 2009, 02:17 PM

This is so awesome !

Now there is nothing stopping me from trying as hard as ever possible !
I really like the idea and hope I'm in the comfort of submitting a video soon.

Posted by: Daniel Robinson Mar 19 2009, 02:29 PM

This is really shaping up to be a big part of GMC, i really am enjoying the takes everyone has put up so far.


I think i speak for most of the instructors that this is something that has been needed, sometimes we wish we could go the extra mile to get you guys over a difficult part in your learning, when we can see you, and hear you, we are better equipped to answer questions about something you are having problems with.



Daniel


Posted by: Marek Rojewski Mar 19 2009, 03:07 PM

I think it is a great initiative already. The grades I got show me what I need to focus on ( well everything biggrin.gif ). Getting good grades will surely be very rewarding, and getting not so great ones will force us to practice more. As always more elaborate comments are more helpful than the shorter ones, but even these few numbers show much, especially considering that most of the time they will be more less relevant to the numbers provided by other judges.

Even more, now when recording I will demand even more from myself, in order to get grades good enough to pass with the video:) All in all - win win situation.

Posted by: kaznie_NL Mar 19 2009, 03:29 PM

Hey Andrew, just quicky question. Is it fine if I just record with camera, no real deal with downloading BT's, recording syncing etc? Just in a way you can hear what I play just fine, but it's just not high quality.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 19 2009, 04:39 PM

QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Mar 18 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Is it possible to post another version of the same lesson if you have improved, to get a better rating?


Kind of - this is a pass/fail assessment. If you fail it has no effect on your grade, if you pass it counts regardless of your score. If you fail you can resubmit whenever you need to.

Regards,

Andrew

QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Mar 19 2009, 10:29 AM) *
Hey Andrew, just quicky question. Is it fine if I just record with camera, no real deal with downloading BT's, recording syncing etc? Just in a way you can hear what I play just fine, but it's just not high quality.


You need to play along with the backing track or we can't rate it - but if you want to record both on the webcam at the same time, that is ok as long as the quality is decent!



Also, everyone note - the guidelines state that you need to include a link to the original lesson in your grading post - please make it easy for the instructors to grade you!

Posted by: wrk Mar 19 2009, 04:44 PM

Wao, not following the forum for a few days and there are REC topics all over the place, awesome !!
You guys have put some thinking into this, great job. I'm excited to see the REC program live now.



Posted by: lcsdds Mar 19 2009, 05:17 PM

I love seeing everybody's takes on these lessons. I had no idea that all these takes were hiding out in cyberspace. laugh.gif tongue.gif

Posted by: Matt23 Mar 19 2009, 05:22 PM

This sounds great. I'm going to try and get something up tonight. smile.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Mar 19 2009, 05:46 PM

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 19 2009, 05:17 PM) *
I love seeing everybody's takes on these lessons. I had no idea that all these takes were hiding out in cyberspace. laugh.gif tongue.gif


Indeed - it's like an explosion of youtube videos! laugh.gif

Posted by: Sensible Jones Mar 19 2009, 05:49 PM

This is awesome news!! Now, my new PC is here late next week, then I have to wait until the end of the month to get a Vid Cam!! Then it'll take me about 3 years to learn how to use all my new Toys properly so I reckon I can submit something by 2012?????
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: purple hayes Mar 19 2009, 06:24 PM

There should be a rating for how clean your room is, too.

Room Cleanliness:

1. Pig Sty - How can you live there? Don't the flies bother you when you practice?
2. Pretty Bad - Your room is pretty messy. Would it kill you to pick up those empty Mountain Dew bottles?
3. Getting there - Your bed still isn't made, dirty socks on the floor.
4. Pretty nice - The bed is made, but there are still clean clothes that need to be folded and put away.
5. Excellent - Your mom must be very proud.

Posted by: Crazyfret Mar 19 2009, 06:26 PM

QUOTE (purple hayes @ Mar 19 2009, 05:24 PM) *
There should be a rating for how clean your room is, too.

Room Cleanliness:

1. Pig Sty - How can you live there? Don't the flies bother you when you practice?
2. Pretty Bad - Your room is pretty messy. Would it kill you to pick up those empty Mountain Dew bottles?
3. Getting there - Your bed still isn't made, dirty socks on the floor.
4. Pretty nice - The bed is made, but there are still clean clothes that need to be folded and put away.
5. Excellent - Your mom must be very proud.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Matt23 Mar 19 2009, 06:29 PM

I have a quick question. A while ago I recorded a take on Joe's Strink Skipping Workout. I just recorded over a drum beat though, not the original backing. Can I post this or should I record it again with the backing?

Posted by: Praetorian Mar 19 2009, 06:43 PM

Andrew - how many instructor ratings do we need for a score to "count"? I see some uploads only have one instructor rating...and some have no ratings at all. I am afraid that these people's videos are going to get lost in the mix and never get rated. Videos with one rating...is that the final score for the video?

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 19 2009, 06:52 PM

QUOTE (Praetorian @ Mar 19 2009, 01:43 PM) *
Andrew - how many instructor ratings do we need for a score to "count"? I see some uploads only have one instructor rating...and some have no ratings at all. I am afraid that these people's videos are going to get lost in the mix and never get rated. Videos with one rating...is that the final score for the video?



We need mimimum 5 ratings, but don't worry, Skennington is looking after that angle - no-one will get forgotten!

QUOTE (Matt23 @ Mar 19 2009, 01:29 PM) *
I have a quick question. A while ago I recorded a take on Joe's Strink Skipping Workout. I just recorded over a drum beat though, not the original backing. Can I post this or should I record it again with the backing?


We'd like it recorded to the backing track so we can judge the overall performance and feel - just a drumbeat won;t give us as clear a picture, sorry!

Posted by: fkalich Mar 19 2009, 07:14 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 19 2009, 12:52 PM) *
We need mimimum 5 ratings, but don't worry, Skennington is looking after that angle - no-one will get forgotten!



We'd like it recorded to the backing track so we can judge the overall performance and feel - just a drumbeat won;t give us as clear a picture, sorry!


Would I get extra point playing with my my big fat cat Scampy draped over my neck while I play?

I don't understand your logic in thinking playing with a backing gives a better indication. To me it is the opposite, a person's ability, the acid test, is their ability to play alone. I cannot understand how it is possible, that what i am say, is not correct. I am pretty certain that most traditional classical musicians would agree. Generally what has stood the test of time, in the long run, has more legs, that current popular perspectives.

edit: spelling

Posted by: Matt23 Mar 19 2009, 07:22 PM

QUOTE (fkalich @ Mar 19 2009, 06:14 PM) *
Would I get extra point playing with my my big fat cat Scampy draped over my neck while I play?

I don't understand your logic in thinking playing with a backing gives a better indication. To me it is the opposite, a person's ability, the acid test, is their ability to play alone. I cannot understand how it is possible, that what i am say, is not correct. I am pretty certain that most traditional classical musicians would agree. Generally what has stood the test of time, in the long run, has more legs, that current popular perspectives.

edit: spelling


I do think that some sort of beat or metronome is required to judge person's timing and rhythm placement, but I can't see the reason either for the original backing to be needed. I would like to hear the reason's for the backing though. smile.gif

Posted by: Fran Mar 19 2009, 07:23 PM

I see your point Fkalich, but I guess playing along with the backing makes it easier to evaluate the correct timing & overall feel and cohesion of the piece, given the fact that GMC lessons are meant to be played along with the backing, with a "band" feel to them.

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Mar 19 2009, 07:28 PM

If you can play extreme neoclassic with a cat across your shoulders that should earn you an extra point for feeling as long as you look comfortable and relaxed about it!

Regarding backing, I would agree if we were just looking at technique, but we are also judging context - the sound of the guitar, the interplay with the backing, the timing etc. Without the backing track there is no context which makes the comparison less meaningful, and harder to judge.

Posted by: skennington Mar 19 2009, 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 19 2009, 01:52 PM) *
We need mimimum 5 ratings, but don't worry, Skennington is looking after that angle - no-one will get forgotten!


Yes, no worries guys, some of you already have enough grades from Instructor's to get a final grade average for the given lesson. I will be working on these soon so stay tuned. Btw, nice to see how all of you have kicked this program off, some great material being posted. Now I have some work to do... laugh.gif

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Mar 19 2009, 07:51 PM

I am very excited about GMC Rec program, and hope a lot of members will participate wink.gif

Posted by: Fran Mar 21 2009, 03:44 PM

Ok guys this is rolling for real now!
We are generating the personal Rec History pages and updating the REC Scoreboard based on your results, take a look at the general scoreboard here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/REC_Score_Board

There are some rated entries that haven't been updated into the wiki yet, but all of them will be there real soon. The scoreboard will be updated frequently based on the input we get on the REC forum.

Notice you can sort the scoreboard based on member name, titles, levels, etc. And if you guys click on your names you'll be taken to your personal history page where you can see the list of your passed lessons, embedded vids and the calculations regarding your REC title, etc.

Feel free to PM your picture if you want it featured at your personal history page smile.gif
Hope you like it cool.gif

Posted by: Frank Mar 21 2009, 04:41 PM

Do we have to to use metronom or Backing Track fore the lessons?

Posted by: skennington Mar 21 2009, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (Frank @ Mar 21 2009, 11:41 AM) *
Do we have to to use metronom or Backing Track fore the lessons?


We need you to use the backing track to get a more accurate grade. If you ask the Instructor for it, they will gladly send it to you. smile.gif

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Mar 21 2009, 05:06 PM

Can you play songs from bands or is it only lessons from Gmc?

Posted by: skennington Mar 21 2009, 05:15 PM

QUOTE (Martin la guitarra @ Mar 21 2009, 12:06 PM) *
Can you play songs from bands or is it only lessons from Gmc?



Only GMC Lessons Martin, sorry. Here you will find the information regarding the program...

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=25745&view=findpost&p=355493

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Mar 21 2009, 05:19 PM

QUOTE (skennington @ Mar 21 2009, 05:15 PM) *
Only GMC Lessons Martin, sorry. Here you will find the information regarding the program...

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=25745&view=findpost&p=355493


kk thanks

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Mar 21 2009, 06:10 PM

QUOTE (Fran @ Mar 21 2009, 03:44 PM) *
Ok guys this is rolling for real now!
We are generating the personal Rec History pages and updating the REC Scoreboard based on your results, take a look at the general scoreboard here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/REC_Score_Board

There are some rated entries that haven't been updated into the wiki yet, but all of them will be there real soon. The scoreboard will be updated frequently based on the input we get on the REC forum.

Notice you can sort the scoreboard based on member name, titles, levels, etc. And if you guys click on your names you'll be taken to your personal history page where you can see the list of your passed lessons, embedded vids and the calculations regarding your REC title, etc.

Feel free to PM your picture if you want it featured at your personal history page smile.gif
Hope you like it cool.gif



Looks great Fran, really well done job !

Posted by: Matt23 Mar 21 2009, 08:46 PM

I want to ask a quick question about the scoring. Does posting 5 level 6 lessons get you the same title as posting two level 7s, two level 5s, and a level 6, since both sets of five add up to 30?


Posted by: Ctodd Mar 22 2009, 04:29 PM

I hesitate to ask this, because I think it may have already been asked wacko.gif

If I am going to submit an acoustic lesson for the REC program, what happens to the sound category?

does it just get omitted?

thanks!

-Chris

Posted by: jer Mar 23 2009, 01:54 AM

QUOTE
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/inde...REC_Score_Board


This still says BETA with fake data....

QUOTE
I want to ask a quick question about the scoring. Does posting 5 level 6 lessons get you the same title as posting two level 7s, two level 5s, and a level 6, since both sets of five add up to 30?


It seems posting 3 lessons where you score an average of 6.66 equals the same level as posting 1 lesson where you score the same.

Is that intentional?

Posted by: Sensible Jones Mar 23 2009, 04:43 PM

QUOTE (jer @ Mar 23 2009, 12:54 AM) *
you score an average of 6.66

That puts you in league with the Devil, surely?????
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: jer Mar 23 2009, 05:19 PM

We better keep an eye on Chris Evans then..... smile.gif

Posted by: Tolek Mar 23 2009, 05:22 PM

QUOTE (skennington @ Mar 21 2009, 05:00 PM) *
We need you to use the backing track to get a more accurate grade. If you ask the Instructor for it, they will gladly send it to you. smile.gif

The problem is that some instructors aren´t active anymore, so they can´t send us a BT. =/

Posted by: Fran Mar 23 2009, 05:40 PM

QUOTE (jer @ Mar 23 2009, 01:54 AM) *
This still says BETA with fake data....


It's fixed now smile.gif

QUOTE (jer @ Mar 23 2009, 01:54 AM) *
It seems posting 3 lessons where you score an average of 6.66 equals the same level as posting 1 lesson where you score the same.

Is that intentional?


There's no way you can score with decimals passing just one lesson, as lessons have a round number difficulty, either 6 or 7 etc.
When you pass several lessons the final score is the average of 5 highest passed lessons.
You don't get next title until you reach the next round number. That means being 5, 5.2 or 5.9 won't change your title until you reach 6.

It's all very well explained here wink.gif
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/GMC_REC_Program


Posted by: jer Mar 23 2009, 05:43 PM

forget the decimal part. Thats not the question.

1 lesson with a 6 score = same title as 3 lessons with a 6 score.


Posted by: Fran Mar 23 2009, 05:54 PM

QUOTE (jer @ Mar 23 2009, 05:43 PM) *
forget the decimal part. Thats not the question.

1 lesson with a 6 score = same title as 3 lessons with a 6 score.


Yes. But not the same as 21 lessons with a score of 6.
Check the link above to understand the ratings smile.gif

Posted by: skennington Mar 23 2009, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Tolek @ Mar 23 2009, 12:22 PM) *
The problem is that some instructors aren´t active anymore, so they can´t send us a BT. =/


In this case, Let me know what track you need with a link to the lesson and I will get authorization from Kris and send it to you. smile.gif

Posted by: jer Mar 23 2009, 05:58 PM

I see.

I can do 1 lesson, score a 6, quit, and forever be a "Tone Master".

But I'll be a "Learning Tone Master"

Vs those who keep going, scoring 6's and become "Experienced or Accomplished" Tone Masters.

Gotcha.


Posted by: Fran Mar 23 2009, 06:13 PM

QUOTE (jer @ Mar 23 2009, 05:58 PM) *
I see.

I can do 1 lesson, score a 6, quit, and forever be a "Tone Master".

But I'll be a "Learning Tone Master"

Vs those who keep going, scoring 6's and become "Experienced or Accomplished" Tone Masters.

Gotcha.


Right! cool.gif

Besides REC program is most of all a motivation tool for everyone involved to grow as a guitarist, so adding just one high level lesson and quitting the program would be of no use for the student... and as you say, you'd be stuck with the "learning" XP title forever laugh.gif

This is just starting, but as time passes and people keep adding their takes we will see these "learning" roadies turning into "experienced guitar heros", at least that's the point. REC shall measure your expertice over time, the more lessons you guys upload the more accurate your title will resemble your actual playing level smile.gif


Posted by: jer Mar 23 2009, 06:19 PM

Right.

I'm with ya.

Will the first half of the title be added to the scoreboard?

As it is now, there will be a bunch of Tone Masters. It looks like they are all the similar level.

Neverrmind.

I see its in a different column.

I was looking for "Learning Tone Master" in the last column.


Posted by: Fran Mar 23 2009, 06:20 PM

It is added Jer!

Check the scoreboard, you'll see different columns:
Name - REC Title - REC XP Points - REC XP Title - REC Level Points - REC Level Title

REC Title is the whole title, which comes from putting together both REC XP & REC Level titles.

Edit: Oh, you already saw it smile.gif Cool cool.gif. By the way, notice you can also sort the table based on level, member name, etc.

Posted by: jer Mar 23 2009, 06:24 PM

gotcha.

Thanks!

Posted by: Alexiaden93 Jul 5 2009, 08:23 AM

I had no idea the REC programme is such a recent feature ! It certainly is a motivating part of learning to play guitar ! smile.gif Well done GMC ! biggrin.gif

Posted by: NoSkill Jul 5 2009, 02:55 PM

My brother came back from a meeting with his boss. He went to ask him for a raise in his salary. When he came back, he was smiling from ear to ear. I asked, "Did you get a raise?" He said, "Better! I'm now the Vice President of the Technical Support Department!" I said to him, "Wow! Does that pay well?" He said, "No, it pays the same as before, but WHAT A TITLE!" I just tilted my head at him.

Sorry, the most recent part of this thread reminded me of this story from a decade or so ago.

Call me a janitor, just give me the raise. Call me a roadie, just help me become more proficient at guitar.

No offense intended, nor implied.

Cheers!

Tom

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