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Storm Linnebjerg
Mar 8 2009, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Mar 8 2009, 07:21 PM) *
Pff, those groovy funky backings giving me each time again troubles. The harmony changes are there, but i have problems to hear them properly ... i'm the only one having difficulties with this type of backings?


Not at all... so I can't give you any advice smile.gif

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sted
Mar 8 2009, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Mar 8 2009, 07:24 PM) *
Not at all... so I can't give you any advice smile.gif



Yeah, I suck even worse than usual at this type of thing blink.gif Oh well nothing ventured nothing gained!

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Storm Linnebjerg
Mar 9 2009, 04:37 AM
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It's in the middle of the night, and I'm just fooling around... this is just for fun and not a final take! tongue.gif Played on guitar, by the way...

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Mar 9 2009, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Mar 8 2009, 10:37 PM) *
It's in the middle of the night, and I'm just fooling around... this is just for fun and not a final take! tongue.gif Played on guitar, by the way...


Very interesting! cool.gif
Sounds like a synth. Would you mind sharing with use how you created this kind of tone? smile.gif

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Storm Linnebjerg
Mar 9 2009, 04:52 AM
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Arh, it's just from the Pandora PX4D. I played around with it a bit, and it probably could get better, but as I wasn't really gonna use it for anything, I decided to quit fooling around with it.

It's just a synth from the Pandora, then turning a few knobs up and down to get the wanted result. smile.gif

Unfortunately the synth on PX4D is not very good and for some reason stops after like 1½ seconds... so you can't really hold a note very long.

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Mar 9 2009, 01:41 PM
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Guys, for that backing track I don't want to make things too complicated.
Just stick to a straight forward C minor pentatonic all the way and you'll be OK.
If you want to add some extra notes, you can venture in a C Harmonic scale.
Sometimes C Aeolian and C Dorian will work too, but not throughout the whole chord progression, if unsure, use the pentatonic and your ears of course!


QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Mar 8 2009, 11:37 PM) *
It's in the middle of the night, and I'm just fooling around... this is just for fun and not a final take! tongue.gif Played on guitar, by the way...


I really liked this Cael!
Your licks work well and very cool tone as well!

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Mar 9 2009, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Mar 9 2009, 03:37 AM) *
It's in the middle of the night, and I'm just fooling around... this is just for fun and not a final take! tongue.gif Played on guitar, by the way...


That was a cool 70's vibe! Just add a couple of lava lamps and ron jeremy and you could be transported back 30 years!! laugh.gif

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Mar 14 2009, 11:14 PM
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I just wanted to say that I used standard Aeolian mode, (so no Harmonic Minor) and it works fine too... Maybe you need to watch out but I had no problems using it wink.gif

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kaznie_NL
Mar 30 2009, 07:23 PM
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Hey David, I couldn't watch my video, it was a private video.

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Thanks a lot for the video feedback David.

Your comments are spot on and at least one of the reasons for it was the quick and dirty recording I did for this collab smile.gif

Looking forward to your next collab!

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As I already said in the PM: thanks a lot for the comments! They´re helpful. I´m really looking forward to your next collaboration! smile.gif

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Mar 30 2009, 07:30 PM
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Sorry guys but where are the videos? am I missing something? smile.gif

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kaznie_NL
Mar 30 2009, 07:35 PM
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Ey David, I'm not sure, but could you check whether my take is put in correct? It sounds Like it's just one chord behind or something... I think my take sounds a lot better in my mix, so please take a look, could just be me tongue.gif

Cruciating tongue.gif I can watch all youtube movies except for mine.

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Update: Just found them, I am sorry biggrin.gif

in case someone does the same here is the link

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...40&start=40

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Thank you David! Your comments are very constructive, and will help me a lot for sure biggrin.gif

I don't know why, is it because where I am from or what I just love the harmonic minor that is why I tend to keep it longer biggrin.gif

Vibrato is one of my basic problems, I had a very fast vibrato and I decided to change it for a wide and slower one and events started to happen... I think I am closer to the happy ending but sometimes I litterally forget the existence of the vibrato notion all together biggrin.gif Meditate on this I will biggrin.gif

Thank you for this great collab and I am looking forward to your next one for sure biggrin.gif

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Just watched my reply, thanks for taking the time to do this David, I did struggle with this backing but i will incorporate your suggestions into my practice.

Thanks again!

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So sorry Kaznie!
Your video is now available for everyone to watch!
I will check out the mix later when I get back home...

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Thank you David for the nice comments smile.gif
You are right about your critics on the last part. I thought as well, that i could have played something a bit more interesting at the end ... a less obvious last note and just before it sounds a bit "unstable".

As i said earlier, i have problems to hear the harmonies on this kind of backings. Which often ends a bit unsatisfied as i don't know if this what i play makes sense .. laugh.gif I needed quite a while to get ideas for this one, so i'm glad to hear that it pays off to spend a bit more time as usual and that you liked the result.

Thank you for taking the extra time to give video comments !! I enjoyed and learn a lot in this collab.


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Glad you did!
You guys all did a great job, really!

Kaznie, did you see that I fixed your video?
Also, you are right, I messed your track in the final mix. I'm posting the new one today.
However I did have the right one when I was commenting on your take. :-)

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kaznie_NL
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Thanks a bunch David! You're quite right about the high notes... solo sounds much more developing if you start low and go up a bit. I think I'm going to re-record, starting out lower, then scraping one of the licks and use that space to build up to the higher ending.

To the rest: Wow wink.gif This is, I think, the collaboration with the most potential I've played in tongue.gif I thought I did ok, but the your takes were just twice as good wink.gif Great work!

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