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Sep 1 2016, 08:49 PM
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Hello folks,
I hope you can help. I'm studying THIS lesson with Gab, the GP 5 file says it's 60bpm. I imported the downloadable backing from the lesson into Reaper and I also converted the video to MP3 and imported it. I set Reaper to 60bpm BEFORE I imported them. The backing plays faster than the actual lesson. You can see the beat mismatch in the image below. I've done this loads of times and never had this issue. Any ideas? Thanks for taking time to look at this  
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Sep 1 2016, 09:15 PM
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Till the experienced chime in, as far as I know this speed thing is a conversion issue. If possible try a different program to get the sound of the video to see if that works.
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Sep 1 2016, 09:41 PM
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Thanks Mertay but the converted file is playing correct even though the beats don't match the timebar. Unless my mind is playing tricks, the backing is much quicker than the lesson. I don't know what the actual bpm is now, so I'm confused.
https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/lesson https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/backing-1 -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 1 2016, 10:04 PM
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These lessons are only here to help you, so I'd say find a speed that is comfy and adjust the track/tracks til they fit in to the speed that feels ok to play at
You can always speed up the tracks later as you go. As it's a Gabe lesson, I'd say message him directly as well Todd QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 1 2016, 03:49 PM)  Hello folks, I hope you can help. I'm studying THIS lesson with Gab, the GP 5 file says it's 60bpm. I imported the downloadable backing from the lesson into Reaper and I also converted the video to MP3 and imported it. I set Reaper to 60bpm BEFORE I imported them. The backing plays faster than the actual lesson. You can see the beat mismatch in the image below. I've done this loads of times and never had this issue. Any ideas? Thanks for taking time to look at this |
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Sep 1 2016, 10:29 PM
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Thanks Todd,
I've messaged Gab but it's a Laszo Boross lesson. Todd, you don't understand OCD do you?  The imported files HAVE TO PLAY HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO !!!!!!!! If they don't I will not sleep for a year Seriously though, I use GP5 to get the notes under my fingers slowly and then i stopped it up. When I'm up to speed I then use the backing and the converted lesson. I record myself against the backing and play back against the lesson so I can compare my playing with the teacher. It works well for me  Cheers buddy -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 1 2016, 11:29 PM
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Yeah Scott, it does say 35, but I don't think it's 35bpm. I'm really confused
 Cheers bud -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 2 2016, 03:23 PM
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It doesn't sound like 4/4 to me more like 6/8 ( I know the lead in beats are 4/4)
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Sep 2 2016, 04:06 PM
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Thanks folks, I'll try the detection thinking later this evening but I'm puzzled as to why the downloaded backing isn't the same speed as the lesson.
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Sep 2 2016, 04:59 PM
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Try 6/8 or 3/4 70 bpm the lead in with 4 beats confuses the whole thing and causes the thing not to line up but if you shuffle the track along the grid in reaper the music does line up
This post has been edited by PosterBoy: Sep 2 2016, 05:07 PM -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Sep 2 2016, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Sep 1 2016, 10:53 PM) the downloadable backing on that lesson is slower than the instructors take. Does it not say 35 next to the downloadable backing? dunno if its actually 35 but its a different speed from the lesson for sure. I just listened again but I think the downloadable backing is quicker than the lesson or am I going insane?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvWWR34fsM QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 2 2016, 04:59 PM) Try 6/8 or 3/4 70 bpm the lead in with 4 beats confuses the whole thing and causes the thing not to line up but if you shuffle the track along the grid in reaper the music does line up Thanks but in the GP5 file it says 60bpm, 4/4. I think I'll just work with the main lesson and GP5, it's going to eat into my practise time else  Thanks though, I will look into it when I get time. Funny how both tracks have different timing. The thing is when you are at my level it's ok playing along slowly with GP5 but working with just a backing track at a different speed is tricky as you have nothing to keep you on track. Cheers folks. This post has been edited by Phil66: Sep 2 2016, 08:32 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 2 2016, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Sep 1 2016, 10:53 PM) the downloadable backing on that lesson is slower than the instructors take. Does it not say 35 next to the downloadable backing? dunno if its actually 35 but its a different speed from the lesson for sure. I just listened again but I think the downloadable backing is quicker than the lesson or am I going insane?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvWWR34fsM QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Sep 2 2016, 04:59 PM) Try 6/8 or 3/4 70 bpm the lead in with 4 beats confuses the whole thing and causes the thing not to line up but if you shuffle the track along the grid in reaper the music does line up Thanks but in the GP5 file it says 60bpm, 4/4. I think I'll just work with the main lesson and GP5, it's going to eat into my practise time else Thanks though, I will look into it when I get time. Funny how both tracks have different timing. The thing is when you are at my level it's ok playing along slowly with GP5 but working with just a backing track at a different speed is tricky as you have nothing to keep you on track. Cheers folks. This post has been edited by Phil66: Sep 2 2016, 08:32 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 3 2016, 09:00 AM
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Thanks Todd,
How do you slow the track down? Sorry if I'm being a numpty and it's kids stuff but maybe I can't see the woods for the trees  Cheers buddy -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Sep 3 2016, 03:48 PM
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Hi Phil, I'm sorry to read this. I recommend you this software to slow down tracks: https://www.ronimusic.com/amsldowin.htm
That's a killer tool for practising. Besides it, you can also use any multitrack software as Cubase, and Nuendo to do it. I think that Reaper also includes the option to slow down a track. Use google to find how to slow down a track with the daw that you are using. -------------------- My lessons
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Sep 3 2016, 09:09 PM
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Thanks Scott, nice one, now my OCD needs to know how that worked? What happened? Why did we have to change the tempo after adding the first track? Why did we not have to change tempo after adding the second track? What is the actual BPM of the thing now?
 Cheers buddy
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