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ElHombre
Dec 6 2012, 10:19 AM
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I know exactly how i want it to sound now but.cant get a good progression to fit

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 6 2012, 09:19 AM) *
I know exactly how i want it to sound now but.cant get a good progression to fit

Maybe you can show me an example of something similar?

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ElHombre
Dec 7 2012, 08:28 AM
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I will give you a few both rythm and lead examples Alex!
The thing is I went away from the idea to create a sudden jazz piece, It could be cool but I wanted to to like a hybrid jazz and rock rythm, it was a little hard so I will try a few other things.

I am going to have 3 parts tough, 1 intro/main riff 1 verse, 1 chorus rythm (which will be an emotional part).

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Alex Feather
Dec 8 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 7 2012, 07:28 AM) *
I will give you a few both rythm and lead examples Alex!
The thing is I went away from the idea to create a sudden jazz piece, It could be cool but I wanted to to like a hybrid jazz and rock rythm, it was a little hard so I will try a few other things.

I am going to have 3 parts tough, 1 intro/main riff 1 verse, 1 chorus rythm (which will be an emotional part).

Sounds good man! I will be more than happy to help you out! If you can post parts ideas and also give examples of sounds you are looking for would be great!

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ElHombre
Dec 8 2012, 12:44 PM
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Actually the first idea jazz part was cool to jam to now, that I went clean, I dont know why I used such a bad tone.
here is the backing track, the chords for the jazz part are:

The "G" is that little starting lick which is E E G A

G F#dim A7 B7
G F#dim B7 Bm7
G F#dim A7 B7
G F#dim A13 A7


Now have little jam yourself, on all parts.
And then comment on the jazz part, if its not so good to your ears, what you be altered in the progression?

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ElHombre
Dec 9 2012, 12:03 AM
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Here is my playing!
Some things are improv, but the ideas you can hear in the track smile.gif

The idea on the more jazzy part is exactly what I heard in my head and transfered to the fretboard smile.gif

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Alex Feather
Dec 9 2012, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 8 2012, 11:03 PM) *
Here is my playing!
Some things are improv, but the ideas you can hear in the track smile.gif

The idea on the more jazzy part is exactly what I heard in my head and transfered to the fretboard smile.gif

This is very cool! I like the melody and your solo is very cool and creative! The only suggestion I will have is to make it tighter because you are rushing a little bit on the solo and the main riff! Other than that it is very good! Like the jazz part a lot! smile.gif

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ElHombre
Dec 9 2012, 12:30 PM
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thanks alex smile.gif
Yes I will make it a little more structured and with better timing and also get a better tone smile.gif
I used too much distortion

Now a little song structure, first I have the intro/main riff, then the verse which is jazz, then a little pre chorus which is main riff again, and then I will do the slower part, which will be the chorus.

Then after that, should I do a verse again, going for the jazz? and then make a outro with the intro riff?
what do you think?

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Alex Feather
Dec 9 2012, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 9 2012, 11:30 AM) *
thanks alex smile.gif
Yes I will make it a little more structured and with better timing and also get a better tone smile.gif
I used too much distortion

Now a little song structure, first I have the intro/main riff, then the verse which is jazz, then a little pre chorus which is main riff again, and then I will do the slower part, which will be the chorus.

Then after that, should I do a verse again, going for the jazz? and then make a outro with the intro riff?
what do you think?

I think it sounds like a good idea it's hard to tell unless we will hear it you can always move parts around and get the structure that you are looking for
Try it out an lets hear what it sounds like

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ElHombre
Dec 18 2012, 09:10 PM
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Jazz part updated, and I have a new idea for the song, a piano lydian part in the middle, and ending it all with some jazz again smile.gif
Cant come up with a good progression.

The song is in G. It contains the C lydian mode.. so the question is go for G lydian or C lydian to get the same key?

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Alex Feather
Dec 19 2012, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 18 2012, 08:10 PM) *
Jazz part updated, and I have a new idea for the song, a piano lydian part in the middle, and ending it all with some jazz again smile.gif
Cant come up with a good progression.

The song is in G. It contains the C lydian mode.. so the question is go for G lydian or C lydian to get the same key?

Sounds much better! Great timing and the whole performance is very interesting! smile.gif
To stay in G you have to play C lydian
Looking forward to hear the finished version! smile.gif

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Dec 19 2012, 02:53 PM
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Do you know a good proggression suitable for lydian mode alex?

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 19 2012, 01:53 PM) *
Do you know a good proggression suitable for lydian mode alex?

Of course
try this one:
C - Emi - Bmi - G

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ElHombre
Dec 25 2012, 01:50 PM
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Hi Alex hope you had a nice christmas smile.gif
Well lets go back to some fusion training again.

Well I listen to a lot of music and try to pick up things from there and come up with my own, but I need to learn more licks down the fretboard too, so I was thinking of learning greg howes improvistation of sunny, where can I learn some more cool licks?

Also can we pratice playing in changes? We can start from the beginning if you would like
We have done some pratice over this but we can go back and start from there

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Alex Feather
Dec 26 2012, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (ElHombre @ Dec 25 2012, 12:50 PM) *
Hi Alex hope you had a nice christmas smile.gif
Well lets go back to some fusion training again.

Well I listen to a lot of music and try to pick up things from there and come up with my own, but I need to learn more licks down the fretboard too, so I was thinking of learning greg howes improvistation of sunny, where can I learn some more cool licks?

Also can we pratice playing in changes? We can start from the beginning if you would like
We have done some pratice over this but we can go back and start from there

Hi! unfortunately I am not gonna be able to continue mentoring you the reason is that my program will be closing in a few days...

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ElHombre
Dec 27 2012, 04:55 PM
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I just noticed, good luck Alex smile.gif
thanks for all help

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