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Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Nov 30 2011, 04:02 PM

Ok guys, my first video collab !
I would like to show me how you gonna play this one!

It's about Em, F chord progression. You have several options - you can play minor Phrygian mode or simply - C major scale! You can also play a dominant variant of Phrygian mode !







And one very interesting E byzantine scale smile.gif



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Conditions are :

Send me video of lead guitar. Listen to backing track with headphones !
For those who have already recorded video clips before = plus one audio take with a backing, and one solo take- just your guitar !!!

Deadline: 20.December.'11 !


thanks guys

 Heavy_phrygian.mp3 ( 845.44K ) : 382







Posted by: HungryForHeaven Nov 30 2011, 06:18 PM

This will be awesome! I'm gonna give this a try.

But wouldn't the G# sound weird over the Em? Or is the minor 3rd not present?

H4H

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Nov 30 2011, 06:37 PM

QUOTE (HungryForHeaven @ Nov 30 2011, 06:18 PM) *
This will be awesome! I'm gonna give this a try.

But wouldn't the G# sound weird over the Em? Or is the minor 3rd not present?

H4H



G# is a third of Phrygian Major mode. If you notice, the progression is played with the power chords, E5,F5.
As I said, you can to try both variants, Any of them gonna fit perfect smile.gif


Posted by: AK Rich Nov 30 2011, 06:50 PM

Sounds sinister Sinisa tongue.gif

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Nov 30 2011, 06:51 PM

Ok, that's what I thought. Just wanted to be sure, since you wrote Em.
It's gonna be really cool, nevertheless!

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Nov 30 2011, 08:53 PM

You and every else can maybe borrow some licks wink.gif http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Oriental-Phrases/

Posted by: AK Rich Dec 16 2011, 10:22 AM

Boogedy!! ph34r.gif My girl Stacie said this collab sounded psychotic. laugh.gif Here is my take, I tried a different approach on this collab and went in with no real plan so its pretty much straight improv. I kind of had a little brain fart at the end unsure.gif




[attachment=25614:Heavy_phrygian2.mp3]

[attachment=25615:Heavy_phrygianwob.mp3]

[attachment=25616:Heavy_Phrygian2.wmv]

Thanks Sinisa! Rich...

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Dec 17 2011, 10:37 PM

Where are you guys ? smile.gif

Posted by: AK Rich Dec 18 2011, 01:33 AM

hmm maybe Christmas shopping? I was going to redo my take since the day after I made it I listened to it and said to myself what the hell is that? laugh.gif

Posted by: AK Rich Dec 18 2011, 07:46 PM

QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Dec 17 2011, 12:37 PM) *
Where are you guys ? smile.gif


Maybe my smoking scared them away, my bad unsure.gif cough*

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Dec 18 2011, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (AK Rich @ Dec 18 2011, 07:46 PM) *
Maybe my smoking scared them away, my bad unsure.gif cough*


Hhahahaha, nice one !

Posted by: Nimrandir Dec 18 2011, 10:43 PM

I'm in! smile.gif Hope I won't miss the deadline smile.gif.

I'd like to do some diminished seventh arpeggio tapping, am I right in assuming that G#dim7 works here? smile.gif

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Dec 19 2011, 10:40 AM

QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 18 2011, 10:43 PM) *
I'm in! smile.gif Hope I won't miss the deadline smile.gif.

I'd like to do some diminished seventh arpeggio tapping, am I right in assuming that G#dim7 works here? smile.gif


Grab your axe smile.gif ! Yeah, G#dim fits fine !!!

Posted by: quadrium Dec 19 2011, 06:00 PM

Hey Sinisa,

Here is my take smile.gif



 Heavy_Phrygian_No_Backing.mp3 ( 1.38MB ) : 218
 

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Dec 19 2011, 08:54 PM


Posted by: AK Rich Dec 23 2011, 01:57 AM

Hey Sin!

Can I trade ya this take for my first take on this collab? Edit: If I am not too late that is.



[attachment=25694:Heavy_phrygianWB.mp3]

[attachment=25695:Heavy_phrygianWOB.mp3]

Posted by: Nimrandir Dec 23 2011, 05:56 PM

Oops, I thought the deadline is a bit later. Sorry!

I've got audio recorded and going to record video and post my take later today smile.gif.

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Dec 23 2011, 06:05 PM

Fantastic job guys smile.gif


QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 23 2011, 05:56 PM) *
Oops, I thought the deadline is a bit later. Sorry!

I've got audio recorded and going to record video and post my take later today smile.gif.


Never to late Nim smile.gif, waiting for you !

Posted by: AK Rich Dec 23 2011, 07:26 PM

QUOTE (AK Rich @ Dec 22 2011, 03:57 PM) *
Hey Sin!

Can I trade ya this take for my first take on this collab? Edit: If I am not too late that is.



[attachment=25694:Heavy_phrygianWB.mp3]

[attachment=25695:Heavy_phrygianWOB.mp3]


Did you need the vid too? here it is.

[attachment=25701:Heavy_Ph...n_Collab.wmv]

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Dec 23 2011, 09:46 PM

This is praiseworthy Rich - No cigars, hahahahahah .. !!

Posted by: Nimrandir Dec 23 2011, 10:52 PM

Ok, here's my take. Had to use my brother's guitar for this one (mine has a bloken string and I don't have a replacement), which didn't help at all smile.gif. I tried to cover complete lack of creativity with some shredding, hope my plan worked biggrin.gif. The video quality is very bad and it's very dark, I probably can try to rerecord it if it's needed (also it's not perfectly in sync as I recorded video separately from audio rolleyes.gif ).

Anyway.. it's my first video collab! smile.gif



 Heavy_Phrygian.wmv ( 22.43MB ) : 141
 Heavy_Phrygian_WBT.mp3 ( 742.22K ) : 139
 Heavy_Phrygian_NBT.mp3 ( 742.22K ) : 134
 

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Dec 23 2011, 10:59 PM

QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 23 2011, 10:52 PM) *
Ok, here's my take. Had to use my brother's guitar for this one (mine has a bloken string and I don't have a replacement), which didn't help at all smile.gif. I tried to cover complete lack of creativity with some shredding, hope my plan worked biggrin.gif. The video quality is very bad and it's very dark, I probably can try to rerecord it if it's needed (also it's not perfectly in sync as I recorded video separately from audio rolleyes.gif ).

Anyway.. it's my first video collab! smile.gif

Good stuff!

H4H

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Dec 23 2011, 11:06 PM

UltraMegaSega biggrin.gif !

Posted by: SirJamsalot Dec 24 2011, 07:01 PM

QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 23 2011, 01:52 PM) *
Ok, here's my take. Had to use my brother's guitar for this one (mine has a bloken string and I don't have a replacement), which didn't help at all smile.gif. I tried to cover complete lack of creativity with some shredding, hope my plan worked biggrin.gif. The video quality is very bad and it's very dark, I probably can try to rerecord it if it's needed (also it's not perfectly in sync as I recorded video separately from audio rolleyes.gif ).

Anyway.. it's my first video collab! smile.gif



Dude! That was insanely good! You have great feel in your bends and your technical abilities leave me envious!How about a video lesson showing your licks!

Great job!
Chris

Posted by: AK Rich Dec 24 2011, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 23 2011, 12:52 PM) *
Ok, here's my take. Had to use my brother's guitar for this one (mine has a bloken string and I don't have a replacement), which didn't help at all smile.gif. I tried to cover complete lack of creativity with some shredding, hope my plan worked biggrin.gif. The video quality is very bad and it's very dark, I probably can try to rerecord it if it's needed (also it's not perfectly in sync as I recorded video separately from audio rolleyes.gif ).

Anyway.. it's my first video collab! smile.gif

WooHooo! when in doubt rip it out! cool.gif Congrats on the first Collab man! smokin take smile.gif

Peace! Rich...

QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Dec 23 2011, 11:46 AM) *
This is praiseworthy Rich - No cigars, hahahahahah .. !!


laugh.gif Thanks Sin, I gotta kick the habit man. dry.gif

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 2 2012, 01:10 PM

These days I will release the final mix guys, thanks for your patience !!! smile.gif

Posted by: Nimrandir Jan 3 2012, 05:53 AM

QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Dec 24 2011, 08:01 PM) *
How about a video lesson showing your licks!


Thank you smile.gif. I'd really like to do it, but first I'll need a lesson on how to make lessons biggrin.gif.

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 9 2012, 02:56 PM

Final Video Mix guys wink.gif

Video and audio sync gave me some problems, due to the different conversions of your shots, but somehow managed to sort it out!
Overall I am delighted with your playing, but let me give you my feedback tomorrow! wink.gif


Posted by: Nimrandir Jan 9 2012, 06:54 PM

Great playing everyone! smile.gif

QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Jan 9 2012, 03:56 PM) *
Video and audio sync gave me some problems, due to the different conversions of your shots, but somehow managed to sort it out!


Oops, sorry, it must be me, forgot to post the youtube link smile.gif.

By the way, are my ears deceiving me or am I sounding even more infront of the beat than I normally do? tongue.gif

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 9 2012, 11:24 PM

QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Jan 9 2012, 06:54 PM) *
Great playing everyone! smile.gif



Oops, sorry, it must be me, forgot to post the youtube link smile.gif.

By the way, are my ears deceiving me or am I sounding even more infront of the beat than I normally do? tongue.gif


Don't worry, everything is under control, you rock wink.gif !

Posted by: AK Rich Jan 10 2012, 07:03 PM

Very cool Sin and good job man thanks!
Also great takes everyone you guys rock!! cool.gif

Posted by: HungryForHeaven Jan 10 2012, 07:13 PM

I can only agree with the other guys. Thanks co-players (great job everyone), and thanks Sinisa for putting this together! smile.gif

H4H

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 11 2012, 01:25 AM

Finally free to write my comment,Wohooo laugh.gif !

Well guys, as you know and as I indicated - Your takes are the right refreshment for my ears, bravo! Also I would like to give
some criticism, just in case that if you fly too high !!! So let's start ..

HungryForHeaven-

Why just so little? You run out of ideas? I expected the second round with development and an epilogue,on this way you remained incomplete - as a good movie with the cut ending,or something like that!

Technique: excellent - picking, bending, vibrato - everything is in place, the timing also, all for 10!

Criticism: You kept only one scale- Phrygian Dominant, where's the others?!? You threw a few short phrases trough three positions- on the same trace! You tried to be technically clean (and you did!) but you forgot on the power of poetry! Think about that, always!

Keep rocking ! wink.gif

Nimradir -

My God, this was a fantastic playing from the technical point of view. I was afraid that you will not take a break a bit!! But you did it...for a sec .! tongue.gif

Techique: superb - picking,tapping,bending, vibrato,tempo..did i miss something ?! 11!

Objections : You bought us with the technique, no doubt, but with the story .. hmm.. can we negotiate!?!
Would be much more pleasant maybe that you are played that diminished arpeggios in eights-as a kind of dynamic transition,on this way we have the impression of an excellent technical demonstrations,if you know what i mean! But then again, maybe it's just my subjective opinion,never mind! Great job !

Ak Rich -

Really good playing, maybe not as technically perfect as deliberately nice !

Technique: Tapping the single string is sometimes interesting If you know to make intervals of the certain scale, and you packaged it very well! : Good timing, also a good vibrato and bending!

Objections: The wrong order! In my humble opinion, the second part of the improvisation is supposed to be in the first place, and vice versa - the tension should grow slowly, and you give us a maximum at the very beginning!What do you think about?

Great work !

Quadrium-

You tried to give us an original trip, and partly you did it!

Techniques: You need to work in some elements to force the guitar to sounds as it should! Alternative picking and vibrato-focus on it! Your hands are not yet in a sync, and exercise make wonders wink.gif !

Objections: This was a big bite for you, but you managed to cope with the task in your own way, and therefore I congratulate ! Pentatonic scale is grateful for the many styles, but still attempt to expand your horizons to something a bit exotic -a combination of two or three such scales + a pentatonic = endless fun!

Keep practicing,good job wink.gif !

Well, I hope that you don't get mad at me if someone is injured with a criticism, but I like to be maximally realistic,heheeh!
Once again, I am grateful to you for participating and would like to go these days to a new music adventure!!!!!

Thanks guys,

Sinisa

ps:
Yooooour comments maybeee ?! biggrin.gif

Posted by: AK Rich Jan 11 2012, 06:58 PM

Hey Sinisa!

Thanks alot for the critique , I completely understand what you mean when you say I got the order of the ideas I had backwards, instead of building slow and climaxing at the end I pretty much did the opposite of that, I will keep that in mind and work on that in the next collab smile.gif
I will never be upset with the critique I get from you on these collab or REC's .Your comments are important and helpfull and thats how I will take them so dont hold back boss, I'm a big boy wink.gif
I had fun with this collab and thank you for it and I am looking forward to the next one.

Peace! Rich...

Posted by: Sinisa Cekic Jan 11 2012, 09:57 PM

Well I know that you are great musicians, and count on it that you aren't conceited (a lot) tongue.gif biggrin.gif !!!

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