Between Neck And Bridge

ssss

Posting Guidelines

GMC Forum > Discussion Boards > GEAR & PRODUCTION

Between Neck And Bridge

badfingers93 View Member Profile	Mar 1 2011, 08:16 PM
Mar 1 2011, 08:16 PM	GMC:er Posts: 104 Joined: 27-April 10 From: singapore	Hey guys I just got my pickups changed...and i remembered from my old pickups that there is usually a noticeable difference when changing from neck to bridge. The tone should have more treble in the bridge compared to the neck right? But i can't seem to hear the difference with the new pickups except the middle single coil of course(which is not changed). Maybe there is a slight difference but not significant. Could it be that there must be something wrong with the wiring? Mine is a 5 way pickup selector... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Mudbone View Member Profile	Mar 1 2011, 08:54 PM
Mar 1 2011, 08:54 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.750 Joined: 6-May 10 From: Charlotte, NC (residence)/Boston, MA (home) USA	QUOTE (badfingers93 @ Mar 1 2011, 02:16 PM) Hey guys I just got my pickups changed...and i remembered from my old pickups that there is usually a noticeable difference when changing from neck to bridge. The tone should have more treble in the bridge compared to the neck right? But i can't seem to hear the difference with the new pickups except the middle single coil of course(which is not changed). Maybe there is a slight difference but not significant. Could it be that there must be something wrong with the wiring? Mine is a 5 way pickup selector... Could you post a sound sample? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- He who laughs last thinks slowest. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Gear: Guitars: Uncle Rufus' Twanger Classic Amps: Mississippi Boom Box Mojo: Hammer of Odin and a pair of Ox gonads Inspiration: Samuel Adams Boston Lager Zero to Hero: 1,387/10,000

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Mar 1 2011, 10:40 PM
Mar 1 2011, 10:40 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	Hey there, sorry I didn't get to answer you properly in the chat. Where did you get the pickups wired ? There is always a chance they got wired up wrong. Your ears don't really lie so there is a good chance there could be something not right with the wiring. Which is the pickup that doesn't seem right ? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Daniel Realpe View Member Profile	Mar 2 2011, 01:54 AM
Mar 2 2011, 01:54 AM	Instructor Posts: 5.655 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Bogota	it might be the wiring, you could compare with clips on youtube from the same pick ups You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit my: INSTRUCTOR PROFILE "If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music." Gustav Mahler Subscribe to my Youtube Channel here

badfingers93 View Member Profile	Mar 2 2011, 12:40 PM
Mar 2 2011, 12:40 PM	GMC:er Posts: 104 Joined: 27-April 10 From: singapore	QUOTE (Mudbone @ Mar 1 2011, 07:54 PM) Could you post a sound sample? Hello mudbone, thanks for replying. Yes i'll try to post a sound sample... QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Mar 1 2011, 09:40 PM) Hey there, sorry I didn't get to answer you properly in the chat. Where did you get the pickups wired ? There is always a chance they got wired up wrong. Your ears don't really lie so there is a good chance there could be something not right with the wiring. Which is the pickup that doesn't seem right ? Hello ben, it's alright, i did not wanna interrupt your awesome vibrato lessons anyways I got it wired in a guitar shop and got it back on the day itself like 3 hrs later. I suspect there just might be a wiring problem. It's weird that i can hear a significant difference with my infinity pickups and not with the new ones! Another thing is, on the underside of the pickup selector (if you actually open the cover at the back) has like metal plates where the wires are suppose to be connected to right? It's not all been used up (as in not all of them has been soldered to a wire). Is it normal for it to be that way? Hmm...the bridge pickup seems to be the problem as it should have a more trebly or a more crunchy tone compared to the neck. But to my surprise, it almost sound the same! QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Mar 2 2011, 12:54 AM) it might be the wiring, you could compare with clips on youtube from the same pick ups Unfortunately there is only one video Well i'll try to watch it again i guess... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by badfingers93: Mar 2 2011, 12:42 PM

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Mar 2 2011, 12:56 PM
Mar 2 2011, 12:56 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (badfingers93 @ Mar 2 2011, 11:40 AM) Another thing is, on the underside of the pickup selector (if you actually open the cover at the back) has like metal plates where the wires are suppose to be connected to right? It's not all been used up (as in not all of them has been soldered to a wire). Is it normal for it to be that way? Hmm...the bridge pickup seems to be the problem as it should have a more trebly or a more crunchy tone compared to the neck. But to my surprise, it almost sound the same! Hmm, I'm not actually sure but if somebody has not soldered the pickups correctly it would explain why it doesn't sound like it should. If it was me I would take it to another guitar shop or somewhere that could check it over for you and give a second opinion. Also, let somebody else play it too to hear what you hear. Yes, the bridge pickup should be much more trebly than the neck.. if it sounds just as dull and rounded then that's not right. Sometimes people can wire pickups in the wrong 'phase'. I don't know enough about it but that could be an issue. I would definitely get it looked at by somebody else. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Fran View Member Profile	Mar 2 2011, 04:17 PM
Mar 2 2011, 04:17 PM	Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator Posts: 8.451 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Spain	I agree, all guitars I ever played (even the ones with cheap pups) have a big difference in sound between the neck and bridge, being the bridge the trebly one, of course. I have no clue about wirings etc., but that doesn't sound right. Also: pickup height changes the tone of the pickups. But even if the height is not right, they should sound different from each other. Oh, and one last thing: since I don't know the model of your guitar, check that you are checking it with the tone at 100% on both pups. Some guitars like SGs for instance have sepparate tone/volume controls for each pup. I guess you already tried that, but just in case You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400 Amp: Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab Effects: Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70 Recording: Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia! Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI! Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC

badfingers93 View Member Profile	Mar 2 2011, 05:58 PM
Mar 2 2011, 05:58 PM	GMC:er Posts: 104 Joined: 27-April 10 From: singapore	QUOTE (Fran @ Mar 2 2011, 03:17 PM) I agree, all guitars I ever played (even the ones with cheap pups) have a big difference in sound between the neck and bridge, being the bridge the trebly one, of course. I have no clue about wirings etc., but that doesn't sound right. Also: pickup height changes the tone of the pickups. But even if the height is not right, they should sound different from each other. Oh, and one last thing: since I don't know the model of your guitar, check that you are checking it with the tone at 100% on both pups. Some guitars like SGs for instance have sepparate tone/volume controls for each pup. I guess you already tried that, but just in case Yes i already tried it with tone and volume at 100 percent...my guitar is an RG 370DX and only has 1 vol and 1 tone knob. I'll post a sample sound by today and let you guys listen... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

badfingers93 View Member Profile	Mar 2 2011, 07:18 PM
Mar 2 2011, 07:18 PM	GMC:er Posts: 104 Joined: 27-April 10 From: singapore	Ok mudbone...here it is. And for you guys who wanna hear it. below is three samples. Neck pickup: Neck_pickup.wav ( 3.77MB ) Number of downloads: 152 Bridge pickup: Bridge_pickup.wav ( 4MB ) Number of downloads: 157 Neck followed by bridge: Neck_and_Bridge.wav ( 7.99MB ) Number of downloads: 144 For the last track, you'll hear the neck pickup then followed by bridge. It's just for convenience sake. So it'll be easier to compare both sounds Will be waiting for your responses... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by badfingers93: Mar 2 2011, 07:21 PM

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Mar 3 2011, 10:31 AM
Mar 3 2011, 10:31 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	I can't really hear much of a difference, if any. When the opening chord rang out on the bridge pickup sample I thought it sounded brighter but when it went into the rhythm it was too similar to the neck sample. I would definitely get it looked at by somebody else who knows what they are doing. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

badfingers93 View Member Profile	Mar 3 2011, 12:34 PM
Mar 3 2011, 12:34 PM	GMC:er Posts: 104 Joined: 27-April 10 From: singapore	QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Mar 3 2011, 09:31 AM) I can't really hear much of a difference, if any. When the opening chord rang out on the bridge pickup sample I thought it sounded brighter but when it went into the rhythm it was too similar to the neck sample. I would definitely get it looked at by somebody else who knows what they are doing. Hey guess what, i just got my guitar fixed in another guitar shop It seems that there is something wrong with the wiring of the cables. He checked my guitar like as if he's been dong it for a long time (the repair guy was actually quite old) And yes, he told me that they wired my pickups using the "stratocaster" way (not exactly sure what that means). He rewired the pickups and even checked the pickup height. I tried it at the store itself and it was all good. So i guess moral of the story is, "Don't trust any guitar tech under 40 yrs old" You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Mar 3 2011, 12:36 PM
Mar 3 2011, 12:36 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (badfingers93 @ Mar 3 2011, 11:34 AM) Hey guess what, i just got my guitar fixed in another guitar shop It seems that there is something wrong with the wiring of the cables. He checked my guitar like as if he's been dong it for a long time (the repair guy was actually quite old) And yes, he told me that they wired my pickups using the "stratocaster" way (not exactly sure what that means). He rewired the pickups and even checked the pickup height. I tried it at the store itself and it was all good. So i guess moral of the story is, "Don't trust any guitar tech under 40 yrs old" Excellent news !! Well done for going and getting it checked out And yes, there is no substitute for experience ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Mar 4 2011, 12:19 PM
Mar 4 2011, 12:19 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Glad you sorted it out yeah, wiring is tricky in general. Lots of people can solder, but not many know exactly what wire goes where. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

« Next Oldest · GEAR & PRODUCTION · Next Newest »

Reply to this topic

Start new topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)

0 Members:

Blues Lick Of The Day!

Display Mode: Standard · Switch to: Linear+ · Switch to: Outline

Track this topic · Email this topic · Print this topic · Subscribe to this forum

Lo-Fi Version

Time is now: 24th April 2024 - 07:47 AM