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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 14 2021, 09:00 AM

Hi guys,

Tflava suggested we try jamming over a latin kind of setting - so I did some deep digging and found a cool backing in Guido's https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Carlos-Santana-Style/ style lesson.

I split it up into two sections which I think will work nicely for a call & response kind of thing:


 PART_A.mp3 ( 567.88K ) : 1361


Either of these scales will work well:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


 PART_B.mp3 ( 567.88K ) : 1260

Try the harmonic minor scale here:

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


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* Bpm:100

* Key: C minor

* Record your take over part A and/or Part B

* export your take from the beginning of the backing track (aka "Point 0")

* For best results, send me your "guitar only" audio file without any reverb or delay. This way I will be able to make it sound like we are all jamming together.

I will record a response to your take asap and also mix everything so that you guys will be responding to each other.

Students and instructors can join!

There is no deadline, we can keep going for as long as the thread is active.

I hope you will like this idea & backing, I personally found jamming over it really inspiring! 😎

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FINAL RESULT:
Check it in our https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/k_pl_v3.html or http:///promo/radio/latin-jam-v2.mp3.

Posted by: tflava Sep 14 2021, 07:58 PM

Very nice man!
I will definitelyh join
i think my first take would be next week because im little buissy at the moment

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 14 2021, 08:07 PM

In

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 14 2021, 08:07 PM

Sounds very cool!! Count me in

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 14 2021, 08:47 PM

Here is my first take, it's a tricky backing for me but hey ho have a go

I'll have a go at part B later on, I need to get used to the harmonic minor

If you want me to reamp with a different tone I can, or I can send the raw guitar file





Guitar only file if you prefer it this way  Latin_Jam_Part_A_take_1_guitar.mp3 ( 939.79K ) : 988


Here is the TH-U Patch. I used it with a PRS SE Custom 24, neck pickup and tone rolled right off.  Magic_Woman.zip ( 1.43K ) : 956

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 15 2021, 02:13 AM

Cool stuff! What are you using for tone here? is it a THU patch?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 15 2021, 08:09 AM

Awesome Phil - great lines!! Please send me the guitar only file so I can record a response (best is if you send me a file with the amp of your choice - but without reverb/delay).



Excellent, and thanks so much for suggesting this theme 👌



Awesome Todd, can't wait to hear what you will play over this one!

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 15 2021, 09:11 AM

Thanks Kris, glad you like it. The second Soundcloud is guitar only and download enabled, I didn't record with any reverb or delay anyway.

UPDATE: Ooops I forgot to mute the backing when rendering the guitar only. I'll sort it. Sorry

Please excuse the dodgy vibrato, I have a neck /shoulder injury that makes it difficult at the moment

If that's no use to you I can put the file here later on

Cheers



Thanks Todd, yes it is a TH-U patch but I accidentally rolled the tone all the way down on my guitar before I started looking for a patch, it's my PRS SE Custom 24 and the tone is also the coil tap knob and for some reason they always turn real easy.

I'll share the patch if you think it's worthy.

Cheers

Posted by: Sensible Jones Sep 15 2021, 10:40 AM

I'm definitely in on this!!!!


Nice job Phil and accident or not that tone really fits!!!

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 15 2021, 12:38 PM

Thanks buddy, probably worked out okay because I knocked the tone knob down before sorting the patch

Cheers

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 15 2021, 08:01 PM

Okay, the Soundcloud guitar only is now in the original post here https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=62371&view=findpost&p=792323 also a guitar only file if you prefer that and I've put a zip of the TH-U patch in.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 16 2021, 03:48 AM

Very cool patch!! Thanks for sharing in the THU patch vault!!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 16 2021, 09:04 AM

Yup Me getting my latin vibe on.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 16 2021, 09:48 AM

Thanks so much Phil, here is a first mix with my response. This track is so much fun to play over 😁

 latin_jam_Sep16.mp3 ( 1.43MB ) : 966


I also included an empty Part A in this mix, in case anyone wants to record a direct response.

Very cool Todd, please send me your guitar-only file 🤗

Posted by: tflava Sep 16 2021, 11:53 AM

Very nice takes allready. Love the call and response take from phill and kris.
Also cool Fx on your take Todd.

Here is my take. i doubled the length because 20 seconds was a little short. hope its not a problem




Greetz Tim

Posted by: tflava Sep 16 2021, 03:22 PM

I will try to play it some groovier and use another tone so you Dont have to use this one.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 16 2021, 06:30 PM

Sounding great mate. I especially loved the intro melody!

I will record more responses tomorrow!

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 16 2021, 08:26 PM

Great response Kris again, showing me where I could have gone by adding the little ornaments

Todd, I am impressed buddy, I was expecting shred but you restrained yourself, tasty

Very sweet Tim, nice intro and great take

Posted by: tflava Sep 17 2021, 01:34 PM

Hello guys,

I recorded it again with another tone and some more groovie.



 latin_collab_take_2_guitar_only_no_delay.wav ( 11.84MB ) : 925


Greetz Tim

Posted by: klasaine Sep 17 2021, 03:20 PM

Very nice Tim!
Great tone and you played beautifully over the changes.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 17 2021, 05:44 PM

Very nice, it just gets better! 😁 I love the sophisticated melodies and how you build towards climax.

Posted by: klasaine Sep 17 2021, 05:50 PM

Latin grooves are really fun to play over. You can be jazzy and/or do a full-on Santana.

Parts:
A ...  Salsa_Collab___Guitar_A.mp3 ( 966.33K ) : 468

B ...  Salsa_Collab___Guitar_B.mp3 ( 966.33K ) : 459


With backing:
A ...  Salsa_Collab_A___MAIN_.mp3 ( 966.33K ) : 484

B ...  Salsa_Collab_B___MAIN_.mp3 ( 966.33K ) : 473

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 17 2021, 07:39 PM

Awesome Ken, absolutely love that outside note choice! I cannot wait to get recording responses 😁😁

Posted by: jstcrsn Sep 18 2021, 01:26 AM

it is catchy

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 18 2021, 02:46 AM

Wow. Very cool stuff indeed!

Posted by: tflava Sep 18 2021, 07:56 AM

Thanks a lot Ken.
I really like your playing on these tracks.
Melodic as hell but i really like the tension jazz stuff you put over it 😎



Thanks a lot. It isnt fully improvise but also not ful composed a mix



Nice tone man

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 18 2021, 08:25 AM

Groovy mate, awesome to have you in 👊

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 18 2021, 05:24 PM

I worked on this solo live on Facebook. Check it out here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/7378864628/posts/10159693108139629/

No backing, no effects:  Latin_Collab_A_Take__No_Backing_.mp3 ( 963.26K ) : 465

With backing:  Latin_Collab_A_Take__With_Backing_.mp3 ( 963.26K ) : 480

With backing and effects:  Latin_Collab_A_Take__With_Backing_and_effects_.mp3 ( 963.26K ) : 493


I don't mind polishing it a bit more, but if you think it's fine then I suppose I'm okay with it. I do kinda want to add a pick up note for the last motif (that two bar thing), but my brain was getting a bit troublesome!

Can I do one for Part B as well or is it only one part?

Posted by: klasaine Sep 18 2021, 06:30 PM

That sounds great!
I say do one for part B as well.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 18 2021, 10:32 PM

Sounds absolutely beautiful Cael, def go for part B as well!

Posted by: jstcrsn Sep 18 2021, 11:44 PM

thanks, it's actually a metal amp in bias with the gain all the way down with a drive in front of it with low gain and level on 10

your take really progressed too

everyone , Ken , Ben , Phil whoever else I might have missed , the takes are great and it looks like we are giving Kris something to keep him busy

Posted by: tflava Sep 19 2021, 07:17 AM

Beautifull tone Ben.
How do you mic up your amp?
I use my boss waza expander but i will also try to expiriment with my SM57 and maybe record 2 signal at once.
Did you use 1 mic?

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 19 2021, 09:29 AM

It's got a great Santana type vibe! I almost went for something like this, but instead went the exact opposite way and did what I never try to do and just played rythm

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 19 2021, 11:20 AM

It's just Neural DSP Plini. I forget the name of the preset. Something like "electric sunrise lead" maybe

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 19 2021, 10:55 PM

I have to say that this backing track is addictive!!

This is my take over part A.

MIX:  Gab_Latin_Jam_Mix.mp3 ( 594.21K ) : 484


GUITAR (without effects):  Gab_Latin_Jam_Solo_Guitar.mp3 ( 594.21K ) : 467

Posted by: jstcrsn Sep 19 2021, 11:08 PM

I started taping in harmonic minor for part B and I can't stop.. I need help

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 20 2021, 03:46 AM

Very cool licks and dig the tone! nice

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 20 2021, 09:55 AM

Hehe you just need to get it out 😁



Awesome lines Gab, can't wait to put my teeth into a response!

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Here is a new mix where I have added another response and some more harmony.
 latin_jam_Sep20.mp3 ( 2.04MB ) : 465


More are coming!!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 20 2021, 04:05 PM

Cool! Share it!



Thanks friend! I'm really enjoying the Quad Cortex. The UI is so inspiring to create tones.






Thanks Kris!! Can't wait!!

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 20 2021, 08:23 PM

That's brilliant Ben, nice one.





Awesome Ken, you can tell you're a seasoned pro, inspiring



Nice, some great licks in there



Superb, great use of grace notes in there, very slick



This is sound awesome Kris. Loving the little harmony parts over the student takes

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 21 2021, 06:02 AM

Dig the harmony/octave work! This has a great vibe to it and very unique. Coming together quite well!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 21 2021, 09:42 AM

Awesome you like where this is going! 😁

I have added another response:
 latin_jam_Sep21.mp3 ( 2.94MB ) : 461

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 24 2021, 11:00 AM

Here is a new work-in-progress mix of all the takes we have had so far (I have not received Todd guitar-only file yet).

I think this sounds very coherent and evolving so far, whatyathink? 😎

Posted by: tflava Sep 24 2021, 11:10 AM

Very nice it evolved in a very cool way 😎 nice answers to the takes

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 24 2021, 01:34 PM

Wou! This is getting really cool!!

I think that my take is not starting on the right measure so it's not going with the chords.
By the way, your response is amazing! Thank you!!

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 24 2021, 02:20 PM

Very cool, Kris! I like how it's shaping up!

Like Gab, I think my take is moved half a bar. Not that it matters, you should do what you see best. I think it may have been because I play an intro line in the 2 beats of the pick up before the first bar. I noticed some notes landed different than what I had recorded

Posted by: klasaine Sep 24 2021, 03:33 PM

Sounding good so far. Lotsa different approaches.
*My 2nd solo, over the B part (2:55 or so) is one bar late (or two if you're counting in dbl time).
I'm reattaching my comp of that section ...

 Salsa_Collab_B___MAIN_.mp3 ( 966.33K ) : 456

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 24 2021, 07:34 PM

oopsie, thanks for pointing that out! 😅

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Sep 24 2021, 08:03 PM

No worries! You're just composing something new, don't worry!

As Jacob Collier says, there are no "wrong notes", only strong and weak decisions:

Posted by: Phil66 Sep 24 2021, 10:01 PM

I could listen to Jacob 24/7, he is fascinating, I don't always understand what he says but even then I'm still gripped

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 28 2021, 09:55 AM

I have moved Caels, Gab's and Ken's (2nd) take now:
 latin_jam_Sep28.mp3 ( 5.66MB ) : 435


And would you believe it - it sounds even better 😅 I hope I got it all right now.

So true! I often do something similar where I play all chromatic notes melodically over a pentatonic scale - and somehow it works!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Sep 28 2021, 02:49 PM

Cool!! It sounds great now! Thanks a lot!!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 29 2021, 02:26 AM

I love how Santana this all sounds!!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Sep 29 2021, 07:54 AM

Yeah the Santana vibes are all over this one 👌

Will we be getting your take? 🤗

Anyone else?

Posted by: klasaine Sep 29 2021, 06:15 PM

Yep, everything is synced nicely!

*I know it's early in the process but all the leads are way up in front. It obscures the coolness of the track and especially the intricate rhythm, which is paramount in this type of music.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Sep 29 2021, 10:35 PM

I did that rythm take a bit back which was showing enormous restraint I'm glad I did as everyon
has put in some great takes. I don't want to step on any of them. I really love BENS in particular.

Posted by: tflava Sep 30 2021, 07:55 AM

Very cool Kris.
I think that my first part isnt in sync with the backing. It feels like if every phrase is a little after the beat.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 4 2021, 11:09 AM

Agreed, thanks for the feedback!



Ouch, I dunno what I was on...!

Anyhow here is a new mix where all of the above is hopefully improved.

On the positive side, it now sounds better than ever to me (though maybe not entirely for the right reasons..! 😅 )

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 4 2021, 09:54 PM

nice!
I do think bens take made a great starter but really I like em all

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 5 2021, 07:06 AM

Yeah Ben's take is extremely tasty and I am once again blown away by his versatility.

Also Tflava's melody must have been epic, cause it's constantly in my head. I cannot remember last time that happened in a guitar-only collab. Usually when this happens, the only way for me to stop humming the melody, its to start playing it myself. So you will likely hear me play his licks soon 😁

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 8 2021, 05:55 PM

I am trying to make this one as 'radio friendly' as possible. Please have a listen:

 latin_jam_Oct8.mp3 ( 5.08MB ) : 413


Any suggestions you have to make it even more radio-friendly is welcome 😅

Posted by: klasaine Oct 8 2021, 06:25 PM

Well, I'm not sure how 'radio friendly' a dozen different lead guitar parts is but it's sounding pretty cool to me.

*The guitars are still too loud.

I would also have some of the rhythm track sans guitar at the top and at the end to get the groove into the listeners head before all the leads start. Definitely a long fade on the end.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 8 2021, 06:29 PM

Wait, are you telling me long guitar solos no longer sell? 😜

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 13 2021, 09:26 AM

I followed Ken's idea and added a little intro and outro!

Posted by: klasaine Oct 13 2021, 03:17 PM

Sounds great Kris. I love the intro/outro. Xlnt work!
Thanks!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 14 2021, 04:29 AM

It's sounding really cool!! its got a great vibe imho. Although, "radio friendly" might be a stretch on a song with no vocals, it certainly works as a song imho. Awesome!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 20 2021, 02:14 PM

OUR TRACK IS LIVE 🤩 check it out in the https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/k_pl_v3.html

I must admit this collab fills me with a super warm feeling inside. It's such a good representation of our community:

We start with a basic idea to jam, and we end up with a unique, fresh- and killer sounding track. Can't believe we did it!!

Posted by: MisterM Oct 20 2021, 02:58 PM

Hi there

Damn I’m too late..... This collab is beautiful.
The result is very professional, I loved listening to it.
It’s hard to recognize the players...

Bravo.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 20 2021, 03:23 PM

Yes we missed you in this one, I am sure you would have recorded an amazing take! 👊

Posted by: klasaine Oct 20 2021, 05:10 PM

Sounds great!
Really nice playing from everyone.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Oct 21 2021, 04:05 AM

This turned out amazingly well imho. It's so very musical. It's not just a bunch of solos back to back but feels like a real song. Well done everyone!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 21 2021, 01:53 PM

Agreed guys, I like it so much I think it deserves a spot on the startpage!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Oct 21 2021, 02:03 PM

Wou!! I love it! Great job everybody!! We made a new GMC hit.

Posted by: HiimAlex Oct 21 2021, 06:25 PM

I haven't follow this collab, but I just listened to the result and it was amazing
Very good playing from everyone!

Posted by: Phil66 Oct 21 2021, 08:54 PM

That sounds AMAZING Kris, I think that would fit perfectly in radio broadcast,

Well done everyone.

Posted by: Sensible Jones Oct 22 2021, 11:48 AM

Sorry I didn't get in on this either Kris.
Things have been quite frantic around here lately, some in a good way and others not so much. Will hopefully be in a far better position for the next one!!


The final mix sounds great, had it on repeat in the Workshop for ages!!!
Well done everybody!!!

Posted by: tflava Oct 24 2021, 04:34 PM

Very cool all .
What a wonderfull track.

And thanks for your words kris. i was off the radar some weeks but am back again

Posted by: Jim S. Nov 14 2021, 08:38 PM

I just listened to this Jam and man all you guys crushed it!