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Posted by: Stålkonsum Jan 17 2007, 09:13 AM

All right so a few days ago I tried some improvising over a backing track and record it just to see what it sounds like to the rest of the world and dear god I hope it doesnt sound like that! The only thing I got on the recording as a bunch of squeaky noises. Which made me test some more and I came to the conclusion that:

cheap mic placed next to my amp is not working as intended.


A long time ago I tried plugging my guitar directly into my soundcard on my pc and that allowed me to record somewhat good, but alas no effects and no delay so it sounded a bit funny anyway. I tried plugging it guitar -> pedal -> pc ..and since that day I got a strange echo on my pc. Which made me draw the conclusion: not so good.


So how do YOU record your songs?

Posted by: MickeM Jan 17 2007, 09:40 AM

QUOTE (Stålkonsum @ Jan 17 2007, 09:13 AM) *
So how do YOU record your songs?

I use Sony ACID pro sequence and EZ-drummer for drums.
For the guitar tracks I play through Line6 Guitar Port, it works like a sound card so there's no or very low latency. In the guitar port I can choose which amp head and cabinet to simulate and I can add a number of effects already there which is a lot more fun than to play clean and add effects afterwards in the sequencer. biggrin.gif

The guitar port plugs into USB by the way. It can also be used with a mike to lay vocals and it can simulate a bass amp so you can record bass aswell.

I'm very happy with this setup and it doesn't cost a fortune.

QUOTE (Stålkonsum @ Jan 17 2007, 09:13 AM) *
I tried plugging it guitar -> pedal -> pc ..and since that day I got a strange echo on my pc. Which made me draw the conclusion: not so good.

did you use the "Mixer" output (not "Out") from the pedal? Should be able to connect to a PA... so why not a PC? I have connected pedals to my GuitarPort a few times and it has worked just fine.. but now you scared me. I don't think I will do that anymore unsure.gif

Posted by: fretdancer Jan 17 2007, 01:09 PM

I use Adobe audition as software.
My guitar goes into a POD XTL and then that plugs into the computer soundcard.
pretty simple but it works OK.

Posted by: Stålkonsum Jan 18 2007, 12:31 AM

QUOTE (MickeM @ Jan 17 2007, 09:40 AM) *
did you use the "Mixer" output (not "Out") from the pedal? Should be able to connect to a PA... so why not a PC? I have connected pedals to my GuitarPort a few times and it has worked just fine.. but now you scared me. I don't think I will do that anymore unsure.gif


Don't be scared. It could've been a coincidence. my pedal has "Output" and "line out/phones". Which should I plug into when I plug into my pc to be on the safe side? tongue.gif

Also, does sony acid pro cost anything? I guess it does. everything with "pro" tends to cost.

Posted by: MickeM Jan 18 2007, 03:58 AM

Posted by: Why Jan 18 2007, 07:56 AM

Used to use Cubase to record, but then my effects processor broke down. So now it's Amp + crappy mic.

Posted by: kevin-riff-after-riff Feb 13 2007, 10:53 PM

my bands not wrote anything yet but when we do we will use my bassist's dad's Boss Micro BR Digital Recorder

Posted by: buckjones Feb 14 2007, 10:16 PM

i definitely recommend the line 6 toneport ux1 or ux2... on the ux2 you get 2 xlr mic inputs with phantom power plus 2 instrument inputs... the ux2 also doubles as a soundcard so you can use it to run your monitors through and your headphones through. it even has a digital coax output.

it comes with the gearbox software so it has tons of built in effects, metronome, and can be upgraded with more effects packages from line6.com. Also comes with ableton live 4 lite which allows you to record up to 4 tracks. (upgrade to live 5 or 6 if you plan on recording more tracks or even a different program like cubase which is a great program for just starting out).

for $130 to $200 you can't beat either toneport.

nate

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Feb 14 2007, 10:25 PM

QUOTE (buckjones @ Feb 14 2007, 04:16 PM) *
i definitely recommend the line 6 toneport ux1 or ux2... on the ux2 you get 2 xlr mic inputs with phantom power plus 2 instrument inputs... the ux2 also doubles as a soundcard so you can use it to run your monitors through and your headphones through. it even has a digital coax output.

it comes with the gearbox software so it has tons of built in effects, metronome, and can be upgraded with more effects packages from line6.com. Also comes with ableton live 4 lite which allows you to record up to 4 tracks. (upgrade to live 5 or 6 if you plan on recording more tracks or even a different program like cubase which is a great program for just starting out).

for $130 to $200 you can't beat either toneport.

nate


Or for a little more cash you can get a Pod XT Live (about $399 in the US) - it also allows you to record direct, and includes all the same effects, and is also great in live situations, so you can record your live tone. It comes with a built in pedal board and expression/wah pedal.

Only drawback of the XTL is that it has no mic inputs, so the toneport is better if you want to do purely home recording and need to include vocals.

Posted by: buckjones Feb 14 2007, 10:30 PM

yeah the PODxt is amazing. the entire line of effects that it comes with is incredible. the best part is that it can be used in live settings.

i think we can all agree that Line 6 rocks! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Feb 14 2007, 11:51 PM

QUOTE (buckjones @ Feb 14 2007, 04:30 PM) *
i think we can all agree that Line 6 rocks! biggrin.gif


smile.gif

Posted by: Ragnar the Awful Feb 15 2007, 09:03 PM

I have been playing with a Line6 GuitarPort for about two months now. I bought it with the Riffworks software (advertised as Rifftracker; I'm still not sure if there's a difference, or a typo). It's treated me very well, creating some really cool sounds. GP Online is a neat feature for a small price, as well. Considering the price, it's an awesome deal for the sound quality, versatility of sound and ease of use (usually).

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 15 2007, 10:26 PM

Amp > SM58 Microphone > M-Audio USB interface > Cubase/Logic

Posted by: buckjones Feb 15 2007, 10:48 PM

zee deveel - how do you like the sm58? i know the pg58 is a starting level model that i have and i'm looking into going with a blue - bluebird condenser mic because i've heard some amazing stuff done with it but it costs about 500 bucks (which isn't horrible considering what you could end up spending). the one thing with shure is that i love the quality of construction with them. my pg58 i only payed 30 bucks for with an employee discount so i can't complain with that but i need something better and from what i understand the sm58 does not pick up as much back ground noise and although it's not a condenser i would definitely consider it...

btw - m-audio makes some awesome stuff!

nate

Posted by: Zee Deveel Feb 15 2007, 11:05 PM

Like you said, it's no condenser but it sounds great. I prefer 57s but I don't own one. tongue.gif

Posted by: jeff Feb 16 2007, 08:51 PM

QUOTE (buckjones @ Feb 15 2007, 10:48 PM) *
zee deveel - how do you like the sm58? i know the pg58 is a starting level model that i have and i'm looking into going with a blue - bluebird condenser mic because i've heard some amazing stuff done with it but it costs about 500 bucks (which isn't horrible considering what you could end up spending). the one thing with shure is that i love the quality of construction with them. my pg58 i only payed 30 bucks for with an employee discount so i can't complain with that but i need something better and from what i understand the sm58 does not pick up as much back ground noise and although it's not a condenser i would definitely consider it...

btw - m-audio makes some awesome stuff!

nate


The SM58 is a great mic for live performance. Can't beat it for the $ + durability. If you are looking for a condenser mic for recording that is an outrageously good deal and sounds awesome, consider the Studio-Projects C1. I use it for vocals - it is sensitive. You will need phantom power of course but it is awesome. I mic my amp with an SM57 when recording and when playing live. It always does a great job for both.

I use a Roland VS1880.

jeff

Posted by: buckjones Feb 18 2007, 06:11 AM

QUOTE (jeff @ Feb 16 2007, 02:51 PM) *
The SM58 is a great mic for live performance. Can't beat it for the $ + durability. If you are looking for a condenser mic for recording that is an outrageously good deal and sounds awesome, consider the Studio-Projects C1. I use it for vocals - it is sensitive. You will need phantom power of course but it is awesome. I mic my amp with an SM57 when recording and when playing live. It always does a great job for both.

I use a Roland VS1880.

jeff


jeff - thanks for the advice! i'm gonna look into the studio-projects c1 cause i've got the phantom power covered smile.gif have you ever heard the bluebird mic from blue? i'm am also looking into that one... very clear tone.

nate

ps - how is that roland too? i really like their stuff. great build quality

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