Question On Alternate Picking - String Changing, Finally put a video about it on YT! |
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Question On Alternate Picking - String Changing, Finally put a video about it on YT! |
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Jan 12 2013, 05:17 PM |
What you are doing is essentially correct, though over emphasising the motion, also try twisting your wrist a little more after the playing the initial string so the tip of the pick goes away from you to help cross the string it might make it a more efficient movement and therefore quicker, also you have a lot of pick below the string.
I wrote this whilst away from a guitar, so had to imagine myself playing This post has been edited by PosterBoy: Jan 12 2013, 05:18 PM -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Jan 12 2013, 06:46 PM |
Hi mate! That's a really cool video! And your problem is what makes Alternate Picking difficult... crossing strings. There are two ways to cross strings. One is Outside Picking and the other is Inside Picking.
Here you have an explanation of each way and really cool exercises: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...t=0#entry576899 Some guitar players find Outsides easier and some other Insides. I personally can play much faster and more comfortable if I use Inside picking. Based on your video, you are not doing something wrong, the movement should come from your wrist and when you change string you have to high the less possible and keep on practising a lot! Off course there are some exceptions. Michael Angel Batio also moves his finger and has a very unique way of playing alternate picking: and then you have guys like Frank Gambale that use Economy Picking, that means that he always cross strings with Sweep Picking. -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 13 2013, 02:11 AM |
Thank you very much for your responses! I don´t really understand what you mean by " try twisting your wrist a little more after the playing the initial string so the tip of the pick goes away from you". In what direction will it turn away from me? Can you upload a photo or video explaining it? And you are right, I do have a lot of the pick under the string. The problem is that if I don´t have it that way I often miss the string, but I´ll work on that. So my analogy of the muscle you need to tap on the table is actually right? Am I using the right muscle to get the pick up? Or is there any other way to get the pick in the right angle while ONLY moving the pick from the wrist? Just some moments ago I tried getting the tip of the pick at the right angle for string changes with some other movements. One was the movement that Michael Angelo Batio does, the one from the index finger and the thumb. My problem with this is that I want to use the same technique for all picking cases, so I don´t want to switch back and forth between the index finger and thumb movement and the wrist movement. Another thing i tried was leaning the pick forward (so that the pick of the tip goes up automatically). I noticed that this way you can do upstrokes WITHOUT having to lift the pick, but you still need it for downstrokes. However, that´s HALF the number of the up and down movement. My problem with this again is that the sound of upstrokes and downstrokes differs too much. (I also wondered if Paul Gilbert leans the pick forward like that?) Argh! It´s maddening! Well, based on what the great guitar player do, we can say that there is not a correct way for playing, you will always find exceptions for everything so the best recommendation is that you should do what feels better for you. One important thing that you said is: " I want to use the same technique for all picking cases". This is the best thing that you can do if you want to be able to switch from one technique to the other smoothly. So I think that you should go for the way that seems more effective at first for you, and try to keep this way of playing for every picking type. -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 16 2013, 12:57 PM |
I agree with Gabe on this and I think that in his first post he summed up things as well. Now, the way I am doing it is trying to have a firm grip on the pick and have a very relaxed wrist while playing. Try to maintain this posture/ feeling at slow and fast speed and work from the wrist. Each one of us has a slightly different approach, because we are different as players and human beings. Look at how Marty Friedman holds his pick and then look at Guthrie Govan - they are both great players but you can't say that one of them is doing things wrong because he has a different way to do them Talking about this... let me recommend dairwolf to read Guthrie's books "Creative Guitar I and II". These ones are a must for every modern electric guitar player. -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 17 2013, 11:11 AM |
Todd here I think a VIDEO might be worth a thousand words here I've recorded a quick little example of alternate picking while traversing strings. I start slow and speed up. Notice the following 1.) I over exaggerate the picking motion going slowly, then when speeding up, I reduce the distance the pick travels away from the string. 2.)I'm not "digging in" too deep. E.g. Letting the pick tip/point go to far below the string and towards the body of the guitar. 3.)I'm picking from the wrist (never from the elbow or shoulder) 4.)I'm using a really sharp pick (sharpened with a boot knife) so the point of contact between string and pick is as small as possible, only the very tip hits the strings. 5.)I"m using a really THICK pick as well. 1.5 MM clayton. Thin picks have flex, during training/learning, a thicker pick can help your hand understand what it needs to do IMHO. You can always go back to thin pick later Here is the vid. Great video Todd! Your picking is KILLER. -------------------- My lessons
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Jan 19 2013, 03:14 AM |
some times it helps me to start with less picking to get my ear timing correct ( training your ear is as important as training your fingers) , once I have that I can start to pick every note and try to make todd's chats If you guys check Paul's right hand there is not big secret... there are two things to note: the pick's angle, and the movement that comes from his wrist. He is the king of Alternate Picking! -------------------- My lessons
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