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Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Mar 17 2007, 12:28 AM
Mar 17 2007, 12:28 AM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	I have a Line6 Variax modelling guitar and over time, my favourite model of all of them is the Les Paul, I love its depth of tone, driving lead and subtlety when you back it off. Looking to the future when I think I will be adding a Gibson of some sort to my collection - but I am curious about the SG. How does it compare tonally with a Les Paul ? Family resemblance or is it a different animal entirely? I much prefer its looks to the Les Paul but I wonder how it plays and sounds? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

radarlove1984 View Member Profile	Mar 17 2007, 09:09 PM
Mar 17 2007, 09:09 PM	GMC:er Posts: 170 Joined: 19-January 07	I have an SG Standard and it's great. The neck is pretty beefy compared to most guitars I've tried, but I actually like it. The slightly shorter scale length (24 and 3/4 instead of 25 and 1/2) makes it easier to bend strings, and because of that I put heavier strings on the guitar on it still feels like 9's or 10's on a strat. Everything I mentioned is pretty much standard for any Gibson though. How the guitar sounds is very subjective, but I never noticed a difference in sound between the SG and the Les Paul. For what it's worth, I tested the guitars playing blues, rock, and acoustic guitar style strumming and fingerpicking. I don't play heavy metal or grunge. Some very obvious differences are what sold me on the SG though. The SG is a lot lighter than the Les Paul, I think it looks cooler, it has a no-frills finish (I wanted a guitar to eventually gig with, not one to mount on the wall), and the double cut away design and set neck makes it the easiest playing guitar I've come across. It IS top heavy though. I use a leather guitar strap that sticks to my shoulder and it fixed the problem completely. Cheap seat belt style guitar straps go well with this guitar. Oh, on a side note, I don't think there's a single guitarist alive who could bash a Les Paul. They're good guitars, but I just liked the SG better. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Tank View Member Profile	Mar 17 2007, 11:31 PM
Mar 17 2007, 11:31 PM	GMC Veteran Posts: 667 Joined: 20-August 05 From: Shropshire UK	I've had both. I prefer the LP, but it is a matter of taste. Tonally, the LP has good more mid to it, and bucket loads of sustain, however you've usually got to either tailor the sound of your band to make it cut through (especially if you are running through a Marshall), or just drive it as loud as hell. The SG has a more "nasal" sound, that really cuts through easily, a lot better than the LP, but I don't find the sound as versatile for situations where you are not blasting out rock, (especially when doing quiet, clean solos for instance). The LP is a LOT heavier in weight, again, something that I like. I find that when I'm standing with it, it balances better. I was forever fighting with the SG when on stage, as the heavy neck would cause the strap to ride up on my shoulder, so that it's natural sitting position was with the headstock pointing almost down. You can modify both guitars to make them sound better . My friend has an SG with Pearly Gates pick ups in it, and it absolutely rocks through any amp I've heard him play. My own LP has two matched hand wound pickups by Jason Lollar in it, which just brings the sound it produces into a whole new league. I would suggest that you go to a shop that stocks Gibson. Bring a guitar strap, and try on both. They feel and sound very different, but they are both great instruments, that will produce great sounds. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 12:51 AM
Mar 18 2007, 12:51 AM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	Personnally i prefer the SG, It feels better in my hands, and i can perform better, and ive only played a few Les Pauls, but those of course, kick ass to. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by The Uncreator: Mar 18 2007, 12:51 AM

stratman33 View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 01:40 AM
Mar 18 2007, 01:40 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.096 Joined: 4-March 07 From: Michigan, USA	sg's are sweet, but i would take the les paul over it.i love its tone and looks, but thats just me.you should decide which one you want for yourself. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- TYLER Visit My Website

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 03:03 AM
Mar 18 2007, 03:03 AM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	QUOTE (stratman33 @ Mar 17 2007, 08:40 PM) sg's are sweet, but i would take the les paul over it.i love its tone and looks, but thats just me.you should decide which one you want for yourself. Thanks guys - sounds like both are deserving of respect - no surprise really I will of course try both when the time comes, but I was interested to hear your views - thanks again! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

brainlesswonder View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 04:38 PM
Mar 18 2007, 04:38 PM	GMC:er Posts: 152 Joined: 4-February 07 From: New Jersey	QUOTE (radarlove1984 @ Mar 17 2007, 04:09 PM) I have an SG Standard and it's great. The neck is pretty beefy compared to most guitars I've tried, but I actually like it. The slightly shorter scale length (24 and 3/4 instead of 25 and 1/2) makes it easier to bend strings, and because of that I put heavier strings on the guitar on it still feels like 9's or 10's on a strat. Everything I mentioned is pretty much standard for any Gibson though. How the guitar sounds is very subjective, but I never noticed a difference in sound between the SG and the Les Paul. For what it's worth, I tested the guitars playing blues, rock, and acoustic guitar style strumming and fingerpicking. I don't play heavy metal or grunge. Some very obvious differences are what sold me on the SG though. The SG is a lot lighter than the Les Paul, I think it looks cooler, it has a no-frills finish (I wanted a guitar to eventually gig with, not one to mount on the wall), and the double cut away design and set neck makes it the easiest playing guitar I've come across. It IS top heavy though. I use a leather guitar strap that sticks to my shoulder and it fixed the problem completely. Cheap seat belt style guitar straps go well with this guitar. Oh, on a side note, I don't think there's a single guitarist alive who could bash a Les Paul. They're good guitars, but I just liked the SG better. Who says you can't gig with a Les Paul? besides, if you need to beat some drunk punk kid off the stage, the chance of a one swing knock out is much better with the Les Paul. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

RIP Dime View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 05:33 PM
Mar 18 2007, 05:33 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.063 Joined: 2-October 06 From: Hawaii	I like both, just go with your preferance. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

radarlove1984 View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 09:48 PM
Mar 18 2007, 09:48 PM	GMC:er Posts: 170 Joined: 19-January 07	QUOTE (brainlesswonder @ Mar 18 2007, 08:38 AM) Who says you can't gig with a Les Paul? besides, if you need to beat some drunk punk kid off the stage, the chance of a one swing knock out is much better with the Les Paul. Dude... That's the coolest guitar in the history of Rock 'n' Roll! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

moorkop View Member Profile	Mar 18 2007, 10:22 PM
Mar 18 2007, 10:22 PM	GMC:er Posts: 70 Joined: 5-January 07	i gotta say les paul its pretty much the guitar i dreamt about since i started playing its just... the color, the shape, the sound the SG just doesn't do that for me plus.. there's so much choice in LP minus... they're all very expensive i'm getting closer to my own LP, but still, its a lot of money i wished i liked the SG better, ít'd be better for my wallet You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- gear guitar: ibanez SA 260 FM amp: hughes & ketler blue edition 60 wts (in garage) amp you hear: crappy yahama borrowed from friend effects: dunlop jimi hendrix wahwah

Rob_g View Member Profile	Mar 19 2007, 10:55 PM
Mar 19 2007, 10:55 PM	GMC:er Posts: 377 Joined: 13-December 05 From: White River, Ont, Canada	i have both so i thought id share my input on this the lp is whale, but once you get use to it its nice to play, I also find it comftourble standing up but very low kinda like slash a down side to it is the single cut makes it very hard to play the high frets and is quite hard to put vibrato when ur bending the 22nd fret the sg is light, the double cut makes it easy to use the higher frets. so imo go with the sg you can always change the pickups to make it sound possibly better then the lp (as tank said) much more affourdable (as moorkop mentioned) and alot better playability. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Rob_g: Mar 19 2007, 10:56 PM

brandon View Member Profile	Mar 20 2007, 05:26 PM
Mar 20 2007, 05:26 PM	GMC:er Posts: 120 Joined: 13-March 07 From: Wilmington, NC	I love my SG, but have always wanted a Les Paul. The Les Paul tends to have a thicker sound, but you have to deal with it being a heavier guitar. Some people I know have eventually given up on the LP because of the weight of it.....so it's really all up to you. I think the LP sounds better, but I would suggest getting a good strap to go along with it to help take some of the stress off of your shoulder. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Mar 20 2007, 06:14 PM
Mar 20 2007, 06:14 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	Thanks for all the input guys ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

Ciz View Member Profile	Mar 21 2007, 09:03 PM
Mar 21 2007, 09:03 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1 Joined: 21-March 07	lps all the way but this is definately a personal choice and you have to play them both to decide You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Attached image(s)

Andrew Cockburn View Member Profile	Mar 24 2007, 10:28 PM
Mar 24 2007, 10:28 PM	Moderation Policy Director Posts: 10.459 Joined: 6-February 07 From: CT, USA	I went to the guitar shop today and tried both I have to say guys, every response was right on the money, you are a knowledgeable bunch! So for the record, my personal impressions were as follows ... I played an LP standard with the 50's neck - I was surprised at how much wider it was and how far apart the strings felt. For a few minutes I couldn't do any speedpicking at all - it would certainly take a lot of getting used to. By comparison, the SG, even though it had a similarly wide neck felt a lot faster to play - I would definitely have to get used to playing either. Sound wise, I found the LP to have more depth, and the clean sounds was just beautiful - full of detail and subtlety, smooth and well rounded, with bags of sustain. The SG on clean sounded good but lacked that same depth. Distorted, they sounded about the same to me (I was playing through a Marshal, not sure what model), but for that style of playing the SG felt more comfortable. Two awesome instruments - Of the two I marginally prefer the LP, the weight wasn't really an issue for me. I would use it for clean acoustic stuff, and blues, but probably not for faster lead stuff. The SG - well, I would put it on my dream guitar list, but probably behind the LP, and also behind something like an Ibanez that plays a little faster. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab

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