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Posted by: Martin la guitarra Feb 20 2008, 10:01 PM

So lets hear it, are they good or bad, what do you guys think?
Personally i think they're great, especially mick thompson (lead guitar) and the singer Corey taylor who has the most incredible voice i have ever heard of.

My fav song are

*duality
*vermillion
*left behind
*before i forget
*the nameless
*wait and bleed

And i saved the best for last "Vermillion part 2" which is their softer kind of song.

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 20 2008, 10:06 PM

I personally dislike them highly, just because they are so overated, and every single song, not just of their's, but any other nu-metal band, sounds exactly the same to me.

Posted by: Robin Feb 20 2008, 10:06 PM

I think some of their songs are pretty good, like some of those you mentioned there. I'm not really a fan though.
They do great live shows as well.

Posted by: JVM Feb 20 2008, 10:12 PM

I feel more or less the same way.

Posted by: Trond Vold Feb 20 2008, 10:16 PM

I can't stand them. The whole nu-metal genre is insulting.
But still.. i like the drummer, if only he could find a good prog-band to play in instead

Posted by: audiopaal Feb 20 2008, 10:17 PM

My thoughts as well..

But I'd like Jim Root's Fender telecaster artist model

Posted by: botoxfox Feb 20 2008, 10:19 PM

BAD

Posted by: The Uncreator Feb 20 2008, 10:21 PM

Never liked them, I've heard guitar magazines praise them for there guitar skills......What? Makes no sense to me, I genreally just dislike Nu-Metal

Posted by: ZakkWylde Feb 20 2008, 10:24 PM

The songs and the attitude are good but they are just too many persons in one band. With the two extra percussionists they sound like me hammering my baseballbat against a trash-can. I highly recommend Stone Sour, the first band of Corey Taylor and Jim Root. The music is better and Corey makes good use of his incredible voice.

Posted by: kyldeee Feb 20 2008, 10:44 PM

I'm not a huge fan, but I do like couple of their songs, like vermilion pt.2. Corey's voice is incredible, but I think that's it...
I thinks Stone Sour is better, because it puts Corey's voice to a better use, like ZakkWylde said in the earlier post

Posted by: Guitarman700 Feb 20 2008, 10:59 PM

Slipknot, along with avenged sevenfold, top my list of worst bands ever. they sound INCREDIBLY generic, and whats up with the masks? i cant stand them. its like the uncreator said, everyone seems to praise there guitar skills when they really cant play very well. just my opinion though.

Posted by: Toni Suominen Feb 20 2008, 11:11 PM

I like the song "Before I Forget", it has a cool groove to it Besides that, I dont really listen to the band

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 20 2008, 11:24 PM

They aren't my favorite, but aren't too bad. I enjoyed their song off Guitar Hero 3, I forget the name though. And yea, I do think they have way too many members, 2 drummers is unnecessary, same with turntables, 3 guitars, 3 vocalist, etc, etc, etc. However I don't see anything wrong with nu-metal as a whole genre. My favorite band from the genre, Linkin Park, just mixes some rap elements will rock. I find it humorous how people bash LP then praise RATM. If anything, mixing in some rap elements is just adding new innovations to music, therefore making it progressive. Hell, even Dream Theater has rapcore influenced interludes in some songs,

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 21 2008, 12:17 AM

Yeah, I read some guitar magazine where it said that Slipknot, A7x, and Korn were the "Saviors of American heavy metal." I never knew that ...I always thought that Nile, 3 Inches of Blood, EVILE had that job. Complete shocker

@Guitarman700- I've always wondered about the masks too.

Posted by: at lights end Feb 21 2008, 12:26 AM

nu-metal...

...ugh!

-shudder-

i prefer slipknot to korn though.

Posted by: Guitarman700 Feb 21 2008, 12:32 AM

Ah yes, total guitar magazine. they also said the dime explosion razorback was "the greatest guitar ever made".

Posted by: Duncan Feb 21 2008, 01:43 AM

Really really bad band. The guitarist is pretty good though and the singer has an excellent voice, when he chooses to use it.

Posted by: g-forcelover Feb 21 2008, 03:34 AM

The guitarist is great, slipknot is fun to play, but i never really listen to metal on that level.

Posted by: uberIbanez Feb 21 2008, 03:42 AM

YES! NILE IS THE SAVIOR Slipknot is terrible and incredibly overrated

Posted by: VinceG Feb 21 2008, 03:44 AM

Ok im just gonna point out the main reason why I hate slipknot


"If your 555, then I'm 666"

Posted by: uberIbanez Feb 21 2008, 03:49 AM

slipknot is terrible. i think Opeth the best band of all time.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 21 2008, 04:04 AM

I agree that Opeth is really great, no offense though, but Nile seems really cookie cutter to me, I think there are much better "American" heavy metal bands (Dream Theater, Symphony X).

And yea, with the guitar magazine thing, guitar magazines always seem to be biased when it comes to Dimebag and anything to do with him, hence the massive promotion of his Dean Guitars.

Posted by: Zephyr Feb 21 2008, 04:23 AM

I'm not a fan of metal in general, especially the heavier stuff. I find that almost all of it is completely unmusical, and is just around due to popularity. But, I think that bands like Slipknot are at the very bottom of the pile.

Posted by: JVM Feb 21 2008, 04:29 AM

I used to be into LP when hybrid theory came out, but I really don't like them anymore. All their stuff sounds the same to me (as someone mentioned that seems to be a trend among nu-metal bands, at least in my ears). Rage is an entirely different beast. Why do people bash LP then praise Rage? Well, about the only thing they have in common is they they both have rap. Other than that rage is, as I said, entirely different. So I think people are bashing the lyrics, music etc and not just the fact that it has rap in it... just my opinion though.

As far as "nu metal" bands go, I can listen to some deftones and system of a down though. A friend of mine played some disturbed in the car the other day and I couldn't stand it... used to like them too, but all their songs sound exactly the same... and its way over produced, especially the vocals.

Sorry, not a big nu metal fan There's some exceptions but I don't like most of it...

Posted by: JVM Feb 21 2008, 04:32 AM

Hmmm I wouldn't agree with that. Metal began in the 70s/80s as a very underground, not mainstream thing. While theres obviously a lot of commercial metal now, I don't understand what you mean by "just around due to popularity" I won't even get into how musical metal can be

Posted by: Stevie·Ray·Vaughn Feb 21 2008, 04:35 AM

You say it's only around because it's popular, but isn't that the same with all music?

Posted by: JukeboxHero Feb 21 2008, 04:36 AM

They have a couple of good songs as does A7X but I don't see why they are so popular. Slipknot is not that musically talented. I'd give them a 4/10.

Posted by: Zephyr Feb 21 2008, 04:43 AM

I do like some of it, but most of it just sounds horrible to me. They seem to have given up on any musical aspect and just have gone for making it as heavy, or as fast, as they can. Especially when screaming or growling is involved, I just feel they start to forget about making it sound good at all. There's tons of songs out there that I think have the potential to be decent songs, but then they ruin with screaming/growling. But, I don't know. It could just be that it's not my cup of tea.

As for the popularity thing, I mean it seems to me that there's an awful lot of people (particularly among teens) that listen to metal just to be able to say they listen to metal. You know, so they can talk about how "metal" or "hardcore" they are, that kind of thing.

Posted by: JVM Feb 21 2008, 05:14 AM

Thats true about people listening to metal for the wrong reasons, but they're a minority... Metal is just like any genre though, the music is a vehicle for whatever the musician is trying to say (whether its instrumental or not). I'm just trying to say, a song can be great whether its metal, pop, blues jazz or rap.

On a side note, I used to hate the whole growling thing too, but listening to Opeth has changed that for me Mikael is really an amazing musician IMO.. combining jazz and blues among other things into his metal.. but I won't get too far into that, my point is I had to learn to like the growling and I still don't like a lot of people doing it, but I think its pretty cool done right.

Posted by: ace_frehely Feb 21 2008, 05:45 AM

no offense ..personaly i dont like them...thought they make a good mask for halloween

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 21 2008, 11:07 AM

Awful

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 21 2008, 11:08 AM

They would be up there if that muppet Steven Wilson hadn't turned them into a sissy band.

Posted by: MickeM Feb 21 2008, 11:15 AM

I love them, I think they are so funny in a clown-funny way. Turn off the sound and watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1unzN2zsA4k. I put great value a good laugh so I have to say they are good

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 21 2008, 11:17 AM

But 2 of the members don't do anything. They just run round the stage jumping around. It's like a children's play area on stage when they play.

Posted by: Tomotoms Feb 21 2008, 11:26 AM

If I'm in the right mood I really enjoy Slipknot, just for absurd heaviness. But I do have to be in the right mood and I struggle to listen to a whole album right the way through.

Posted by: Nemanja Feb 21 2008, 12:10 PM

I love slipknot...for a whole year I listen only them...I like them because I don't expect fast solo or something like that...just aggressive energy...and "Before I forget"..is one of these songs...so my answer is GOOD...

Posted by: DeepRoots Feb 21 2008, 12:13 PM

I dont dislike them but dont really like them either

mick thompson has some cool riffs and some weird tricks but not it doesnt really float my boat....must admit Corey taylor has a sweet voice but again- dont like it all the time.

Duality is pretty cool i guess....

Posted by: Fsgdjv Feb 21 2008, 12:19 PM

I'm sorry, but this must be the best post in GMC history.

Posted by: botoxfox Feb 21 2008, 12:20 PM

That vid with the sound turned off made my day, haha. They look like their having some sort of seizures.

Posted by: DeepRoots Feb 21 2008, 12:22 PM

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 21 2008, 12:23 PM

I like some songs like Vemillion pt 2 and Duality. I don't think that they are bad. Maybe the question could do you like them or not.. but they play very good their instruments and compose good songs.

Posted by: Owen Feb 21 2008, 01:28 PM

I hate the whole gimmick aspect. I havent really listened to their music but I wouldnt just because of that.

Having said that I dont mind Stone Sour - they have some nice compostions and as someone once remarked, for Corey Taylor and Root - "Slipknot is for the money, Stone Sour is for the music", I think thats pretty much true.

Posted by: MickeM Feb 21 2008, 01:40 PM

I don't even have to take the trip into town to visit the zoo and watch the monkeys run about. In a warm day I might catch them in a lazy mood and they just lay there doing nothing. With Slipknot you can't go wrong, there's always someone jumping around and I applaud, laugh, point my finger and call out - Look at that one going

The sound should be turned off of course.

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Feb 21 2008, 01:56 PM

I love watching videos on silent at times

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 21 2008, 02:13 PM

I don't think that Slipknot is really very heavy either; the riffs sound exactly like what they are to me- a super downtuned guitar. I mentioned Nile earlier, they are heavy, and they tune their guitars to drop A I believe.

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 21 2008, 02:18 PM

People like that are usually complete posers. All they normally listen to is bands like Slipknot, Korn, A7x because they think that it's metal. They need to listen to some real metal, at least some Metallica or Megadeth.

Posted by: Guitarman700 Feb 21 2008, 02:24 PM

VERY well said! as for metal not being musical, and just being fast and heavy, id say someone needs to listen to ALOT more metal before saying something like that. metal is one of the most musical genres around, and im not talking about utter crap like avenged sevenfold and slipknot, i mean stuff like megadeth, arch enemy and opeth.

Posted by: The Uncreator Feb 21 2008, 06:20 PM

^Amen.

Posted by: Fsgdjv Feb 21 2008, 07:31 PM

Don't forget that lots of people who listen to Slipknot do it because they like the whole metal thing, but haven't heard any good metal, so they just listen to what they know about, and a few years or even months later they'll move on to other stuff, that's why I think, they are one of many gateways into metal, and not all who listens to them are posers. (with that being said, I definetly think that there are lots of better gateways into metal, but that's another story)

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Feb 21 2008, 08:30 PM

guys listen to this, i know its a little childish but it looks so damn fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txalsgU_5sk&feature=related

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Feb 21 2008, 08:31 PM

Well, i have come to the conclusion that most of you dislike slipknot although i respect your opinion.

Posted by: Guitarman700 Feb 21 2008, 08:34 PM

and we respect yours, and thats the really wonderful thing about this site,everyone is allowed to have their own opinions, and everyone respects them.
Edit: although, i must admit, this band is ALOT better than korn, or many others. wait...i think their starting to grow on me...

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Feb 21 2008, 08:36 PM

exactly

Posted by: Pablo Vazquez Feb 21 2008, 08:59 PM

I listened a few song of Slipknot and I like it! I think they are very original and their music interesting...

Posted by: SLASH91 Feb 21 2008, 09:45 PM

True, true. I guess I was just steriotyping the people who walk around saying, "Yeah, man I'm sooooooo hardcore," or, "omfg, metal pwns n00bs, 1111one0neon311!!!" . But yeah, I agree with what your saying.

Posted by: uberIbanez Feb 21 2008, 10:01 PM

Nile and Dream theater are also great bands, but I like Opeth quite a bit more than either. just my opinion, i respect your opinion though

Posted by: shellshock1911 Feb 21 2008, 10:48 PM

+10 lol

A kid in my class told me he listens to Death Metal. Then I said "So, like, what bands do you like the most?"

He was like "Eh, man, I sometimes like to just lay back and listen to the old school death metal, you know, like Slipknot, A7X, etc."

I stopped listening after that because Slipknot and A7X are neither death metal nor old school lol.

And the gateway into metal for me was Metallica. I was into 80s rock like GNR, KISS, ACDC, etc, for a few years then Master of Puppets came on the 80s rock station and I thought it was pretty good. Listened to it again, and again, I must have listened to it 300 times at least before listening to another Metallica song. Listened to them and them for about 6 months before finding out about any other metal band lol(first being Megadeth). My early GMC posts mention no bands except Metallica lol.

Posted by: Joe Kataldo Feb 21 2008, 10:51 PM

I like slipknot, they are a great band!

Posted by: Guitarman700 Feb 21 2008, 11:20 PM

my god. my sweet sweet god. thats pathetic on so many levels.

Posted by: at lights end Feb 21 2008, 11:53 PM

i know a guy who listens to korn and slipknot. he's a nice guy, but i used to find it hard not to express my opinion on korn infront of him because his reaction was quite amusing.

and i quote

"korn kept metal alive!"

when was metal ever dying?

Posted by: USAMAN Feb 22 2008, 12:02 AM

I think that their showmanship is breathtaking.
Makes me want to get up and smash everthing.
Vid and music of duality is total energy.

Posted by: bladzerok Feb 22 2008, 12:30 AM

Well i think its an okay band, But i can understand why so many GMC'er dislike them so much

anyway i dont think everyone who loves Korn or slipknot is a wannabe headbanger(as i listen to korn too, but i love alot more metal bands from all style) but i agree that there is a lot of people who listen to heavy stuff to look hardcore

thats my opinion