Hey there friend. You want to improve Your improvising so first a need a few different sample of You improvising to 3 tracks of different tempo, groove but pretty close to the music You like to play and listen most. Try to share with me what exactly do You feel while improvising - You thoughts about what's missing and details about what You think about just before starting to play and during
Hey Darius
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/why-love-sad-improv
1st improv-Thinking Am triad via Am pentatonic.Trying to resolve to Emaj tones of last chord. Chord changes too quick for me to think about chord tones of G,F,C within progression.Over Amaj7/Dmaj7 playing A Ionian, again trying for chord tones.
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/bm-improv
2nd Improv-Again centred on Bm pent and looking for chord tones.Some theme variation.Aiming to include minor 3rd over Emin
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/blues-improv
3rd Improv-Still using my "safe" blues pentatonic.Trying to include 3rd and flat7 over IV chord.Using somes licks Ive used before.Second solo basically a 12 bar Ive been practising.
Not much colour in any solo.Cord tones I use over changes sound lacklustre and flat.Keep playing safe in my minor pentatonic shapes.Poor or no embelishment and poor connection between phrases.
Thanks Tony
I have a good (or bad) news for ya It will always be that way - we are limited by the speed of thinking which also realtes to more conditions like - being tired, having problems with focus etc...One day we play fantastic(?) other day we suck at guitar...it's just the way it is
Now...how do we deal with it? We practice as many harmonic solutions as possible so later we execute whole licks instead of thinking about every single note. There are no perfect solutions for this. It's natural that we are not the i7 processors to think and execute the notes...while even more...trying top keep them sound good and in time
Good idea is to create Your own simple licks over some chord changes - very short so You can remember it. Once You will use it often, You bacame able to launch it anytime You hear similar chord changes.
It's a matter of expirience - the of those licks/solutions/concepts You have...the more You can use easily in all Your improvisation
I think You make a nice progress with Your playing since the poor puppy collab. For now I think that You play to many notes so You don't give Yourself time to feel the mood and experiments with harmony. Try to play less - more will come through time
Thanks Darius.
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/blues-improv-1
Hey Darius. Spent the arvo trying to come up with something for these first cords.Sounds lacklustre.Is it my lack of technique?
The notes I choose?.Especially when I resolve back to A, just sounds "dead". Any suggestions would be appreciated.Thanks tony
Shuffle is not an easy groove.You idea is very ok. I don't like the tone of bridge pickup for this particular style. Maybe try using neck position? Also...try to practice some triplets over this track - like constant 3 minutes of triples repeated a few times. It will help You to better dig into that groove. Then go back to this concept
You phrasing is much better now and those ideas are tasty - just need some polishing Like the tone much better - good bite Also the triplet feel in this one is more groovey. Try to focus on...bending pitch and tuning Your guitar. Try to tune it on frets (not open strings) Recheck a few times with the same picking and left hand strenght as You use while playing this particular part. I don't think the articulation is poor...there is a potential - You just need to make it more precise
Video of You playing this part would be very usefull- it would help me to detect potential causes of some issues. Is it possible for You to make a short vid?
Ok...very first thing....You right hand is Your limiter. It's time for some hard working period with Your right hand position. You play like "from the air". There are no stable resting points and no solid position for muting unwanted strings. Strings muting job is very often twice as hard as the lick we actually play. Most of player usually rest their hand on the bridge...or on the low strings while playing on the first 3. You can watch Ben's speed picking tips (we both are similar at this point) He talks about what's most important - all the angles of pick, wrist, hand etc.
Warning - You will not be able to feel much difference immediately but it's an investition for future progress
I think it's not about leaving away some skills You got before...it's more about adding something more so You could choose and use whatever You like depending on the situation. Thumb muting concept is ok. I also do it this way but when You want to play some harder stuff - especially those blues mood You lately work on, then You will need some more, very solid resting points.
My advices:
1. Try to rotate Your wrist so Your hand will rest on the low strings while You play on high
2. When You play on low string You can rest Your hand behind the bridge (just like pal muting but resting on the "not in use" strings part" or saddle so You actually won't mute any strings. In this situation Yoiu'll use index finger from the left hand to mute all higher strings below the one You play at the moment.
Those two will also help You to get better muting for raking, which is very popular in blues playing
Thanks Darius.Ive tried to improve right hand as you suggested.Is this in the direction you advised.Cant seem to get the wrist flexion and keep hand anchored over bridge that you and Ben were talking about.What do you think.
Thanks Tony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1IjphDj38
I made You a short video - easier to explain this way
tonyk_hand_position.wmv ( 36.42MB )
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Thanks for vid.Is muting of unwanted string noise done by side of palm as you move to thinner strings?you mentioned that you sometimes use thumb muting.which techniques would you use it on.thanks again
Exactly. I just rotate my palm but regular pal muting position works for this too...the basic idea is to move Your hand across the saddles.
Hi Darius. Have added link to my "less is more" take. What do you think.Any suggestions appreciated.thanks Tony
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/less-comp
Hey there! You heard that before but anyway I'll just repeat myself - You did a really nice progress since the very first collab I remember. We need to work on Your tone a bit. Can You send me a screen of plug-ins set-up for this tone + guitar only mix so I coul open it in my DAW and see where are those harsh spots ( treble end is a bit unpleasant to the ears )
Ok I get it. Seems like You use factory preset. I would go for a little less presence and treble. Grab both knobs and try to go to the quarter of the scale. Send me the mix so I could compare
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/less-comp-guitar-only
Hi Darius.Still too harsh?
I'm not sure do I see it correctly so please tell me...is that booster in front of the amp or at the end of the signal chain?
1st thing I would try todo is giving about 1/4 less of the spring reverb.
2nd thing - the tone is still a bit too sharp. Maybe You could try to change the cabinet simulation or we can try to low pass the tone. are You using Reaper?
Hey man! Somehow I feel You can do more than that. Comparing to some of Your latest records this one is not too strong. Sorry for writting this but I know what You are able to do and I believe You can do better.
1. I still have the feeling of some clipping. Maybe try to decrease input on Your audio device and compensate it with more gain on the amp simulation.
2. Please go to the jsctrn thread in my instructors section. Somewhere there I put a screen of how to add a low pass filter in Reaper. It could help You to get rid of harsh treble
3. I would remove the spring reverb. It sounds like the guitar is completely in a different room than the band (backing track). We could go for different reverb.
Let mi know what do You think
All criticism welcome.Its only way I will improve.Is the problem my poor technique or poor technique and uninteresting phrases.have a great new year.tony
I think You it's too flat. Melody idea is not bad at all but nothing more happens in the solo. It lacks a moments of tension and release - I mean that's how You create emotions - not only by a catchy melody but also buy some moments of tension like a few faster notes, prebends, changing vibrato speed etc. Try to figure out something more over Your basic concept
Happy New Year to You too my friend
Well, at least you didn't advise me to give up guitar.
Will work on it and get back to you.thanks
That;s not my purpose Remember - the better You get...the more people demand from You And...because I had a pleasure to listen to some really cool track from You I would like You to keep that level I think it's normal - we have better and worse days for composing. This will never be different...no matter how long You will play...but at some point to have to make yourself some restrictions and learn how to judge yourself in case of playing. I'm sure You will figure out something cool - just give Yourself some time
Hey Darius.Bit of a gear question for you. I have an Egnater Rebel 30 head & 1x12 cab. This head has a silent record option( through built in simulated cab).Egnater website has sound bites of "silent record" which maintains the amp tone. Other users have expressed their satisfaction with recorded tone. Unfortunately I seem to get completely altered tone (which you expressed your dislike for on a previous recording). I assume Im doing something wrong somewhere.
XLR cord from amp to M-Audio Fast Track interface into Macbook-Reaper(no FX). Any thoughts. Thanks Tony
1. You have to make sure if this amp has a speaker simulation on the direct out
2. You have to make sure You don't use any additional guitar FX (amp or cab sim) for this cab.
3. You have to make sure Your m-audio see Your guitar out as a line in...not a microphone input. It might cut some freq because of different sensivity of input.
Good idea would be to try to connect it to a jack line in. Probably a good idea would be to connect it to the jack slot of M-audio.
If none of this are problem then it's all about the eq setting and input gain on m-audio.
Could You try to describe with details how do You feel that "wrong tone" What's wrong precisely?
Very well prepared overview of the setup. I think this is the problem indeed. Your guitar's signal is digitally distorted on the audio interface input. It's natural that backing track have high volume. They are most likely compressed to 0 dB to "smash" the dynamics and get highest possible volume of the track. Now guitar guitar has a huge dynamic response so we usually need to lower the input on the recording device. I just wonder is it really possible that You cannot make the backing track silent with DAW track volume. This is weird.
If I understand correct when You tweak amp volume it affects the direct line level too?
Hey Darius.Shot another vid. All sound recorded on handycam, not computer.
1st is through amp.
2nd demo is shot of mix console. Same amp/interface settings(as live amp) but into Reaper.Note huge volume loss even with max master.lot less clarity.
3rd increase vol on amp significantly but same interface settings. Louder but differnt tone. Fuzzier?
4th same settings as 3rd but decreased interface guitar gain.
What you think.Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Amia6eDHQ&feature=youtu.be
It took me 20 minutes to watch and replay a few times, doing pause and looking at the screens. I'm not able to say too much about the tone because cam doesn't give a reference point to judge the tone.
All I can say now is that I see some headroom either for winter tune volume as for the guitar track. All the master level is good: -15 dB is usually a good master value to avoid any clips. We can always restore the track volume but using limiter, maximizer, compressor at master track (but we do this as a final stage) .
Try to keep the rule - no clipping (red lights) on the guitar track (set the output volume so You can feel it doesn't make any weird changes to the tone through direct out. Guitar tone is a priority. Even if You feel the level of guitar is low... You can always use a volume boost plug-in in reaper.
To help me batter understand how the tones changes I need You to send me audio file (mixdown) of all those 4 situations. It would be best if You could just press REC button and mess with the audiointerface gain + amp settings. Of course before doing this write down those settings so I could tell You at which point of Your audio mixdown the tone relation is best. I could also see the level in my DAW.
One more note...I think it could be better for the mix if You could set the EQ on your amp to 12 o'clock (now I see a huge treble cut). Passive EQ in amps work the way that if You mess with one knob, it affects other freq range as well. At the mixing stage You can make the treble cut by moving LOw Pass Filter point until You feel satisfied with the tone but...under the "treble" knob on Your amp there are some juicy highs mids also (not only the highs) It's better to decide later about how much You want to cut those.
Waiting for Your audio sample with detailed description
Hey Darius .I think Ive recorded what you require.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r63TdgfJXXY&feature=youtu.be
https://soundcloud.com/tonyk525/amp-demo-3
1st take: same settings as amp live ( see vid)
2nd- amp vol increased to 10 o'clock, interface 3 o'clock
3rd- amp vol same, interface dropped to 12. 4th-amp vol same, interface dropped to 10.
5th- amp vol increased to 12,interface 3, 6th-amp vol same,interface decreased to 12. 7th amp vol same, interface decr 9
8th- amp vol increased to 3, interface 3, 9th amp vol same,interface decr to 12. 10th amp vol same, interface decr to 9.
Does increasing amp volume change tone?
If I played amp with vol at 3 o'clock, neighbours would ring police.
It seems I lose amp dynamics with direct line out.
Is the only way to record dynamics with mic? If this is so, then I might as well record with plugins and practise with amp(to develop skills to play live)
Please take your time replying.I realise all you guys at gmc put in huge effort here.I can wait
Thanks Tony
Thank You for understanding. You are right...some times we need more time not to just respond but to respond wisely. To be honest the tone doesn't change that much. You can feel some overload and very little additional distortion while Your amp is cranked but...All the samples give a good image of there is nothing to worry about
You can work with neightbour-friendly vol on Your amp. 4 and 7 samples give the cleanest tone so You could stick to similar settings.
Tone going out from the amp and tone for recordings are 2 different things. How do You set up the tone? You listen to an amp speaker or You mess with the eq with Your headphones? Second option would be better because it will show how the amp will sound in the record.
Micing the cab always gives more possibilities - You can change the tone by changing mic distance, angle and position.
There is also one more option but...I think it won't work. I suppose You don't have a direct out without a cabinet simulation.
Correct me if I'm wrong is the tone coming out of the speaker much brighter than the one from direct out?
Thanks Darius.Tone from speaker is much brighter than from direct out.
There is an extensive demo of this amp on youtube by guy from Sweden, Richard Lainegard where he seems to bypass built-in amp simulation. I think he runs line from FX out and uses IR's in Logic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgKIgNTPFXc
Would I be able to do something similar into Reaper?
More importantly, do I need to make amp equilizer changes to get better tone.
Thanks Tony
It's hard to say anything for sure because of the remote type of feedback I give. I mean...Being there with You would probably take a few minutes to fix this but...we will fix it anyway
Yes - it is possible to do it like that.
1. Make sure amp is plugged to the cab anyway. FX loop send will cut the signal but just in case it would be safe to have the cab connected
2. Reaper works with impulse responses as well as most of other Daw's
3. Do You know how to add fx to the tracks in reaper?
4. Here You have the link to impulse loader for Mac - https://www.copy.com/s/Cd1hkb98q3LgRELX/LeCab2rev1.vst.zip
5. go to the thread:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=50314&st=20&start=20
and find the post with 1on-pres5 impulse - link to download (post attachment). It's a 9th post from the top
Let me know if there are any problems
Hey Darius. Can open LeCab2 in Reaper.Have downloaded 1on_pres5.wav but not not sure what to do with it.
Thanks Tony
1. Choose one slot in LeCab2. There is a "browse" button
2. Click it and find + select the impulse - 1on_pres5 on Your local drive
3. Find "on" button to turn on this slot in LeCab2
Hey Darius.Thanks for Winter Collab feedback.My opening lines feel like they need more punch.Can you suggest a way to achieve this.Thanks
I would start from doing a gain level research. As You see it was a common advice from a few instructors so maybe it's worth trying. Tone we use do affect the way we compose lines. Maybe You will find those lines cool while the distortion is higher
Hey Darius. Was watching replay of your last chat.Enclosed vid of my circular picking attempt.Is this the correct way or have I got it around the wrong way.
I seem to have been distracted with all this "tone" stuff we have have been doing.Could you put me back on the "improvising track" and suggest where I should go from here.Thanks Tony
Yes The movement is ok Only thing to change is the pick resting point for the indes finger. You hold the pick on Your print side while most of players use a side of the finger
Basic rules for improvising are :
1. Play only as fast as you can think abot what to play
2. If you want to play fast licks they have to be perfectly learned and practice.this moment comes when you don't think about notes in the lick while playing. You just treat the whole lick as one note. You know that "note" fits here and there because you practice it a lot indifferet situations
Give me a 2 favourite licks of yours. Those coid be advanced so we will speak about where and how fit them in your playing
Ha ha I know those are lick too...but I meant something more extended..like a full arpeggio or a tapped sweep licks. You know a bit longer type of lick that demand lonmger focus and hand tension.
Any way. Could You please make a vids of both licks You sent to me? The latest right hand view was very cool. I'm wondering about some right - left hand sync issues or just a picking hand issue. I will try to spot the reason
It's very important to know exactly what we are playing. From Your vids it's hard to mark precise rhythm of those licks. Are You able to play those very slow with a metronome? Do You have any slow example of someone You borrowed those from playing it? I think You should try to slow things down and try to ssign most important accents to the drum beats or metronome clicks. It's hard to match the lick to the track if We're not sure where exactly notes should cover the beats and similar...
Hey Darius. Licks with slow backing track. Also have been working on new pick grip. Is this any better?Thanks Tony
what is the pick model, tickness You use?
In this video I'm showing how I hold the pick. You can try it too. The difference is You're playing with opposite wrist angle.
Also...Your hand looks like it has the resting point very hi. Many players use a low strings, right side across the bridge so You just move Your hand left to get palm muting, and move right to get open notes. Your hand looks like it's resting on wood right above the pickup.
Thank for vid.will move resting point.I know I'm supposed to positively visualize but I can't imagine ever getting close to your right hand speed and attack.I just changed to thinner pick after watching your last vchat.V picks large pointed ultra lite 0.88mm thick.
Actually Darius,I withdraw that previous negative remark.If your willing to guide me,I'm going to get this right hand going
1. All those changes won't give an ability to play fast immediately - same as any other approach it will need some time and intense, regular pracitice. My point is not the speed but the precision of all strokes at the moment
2. Prciticing in front of the mirror is a great idea!
3. Be careful with pick choice. Most players use thick picks. I'm a member of minority so it's pretty risky to go for the thin pick...but of course it's worth trying
I'll practise a line with these changes slowly and send you a vid for your observations.Thanks.
Where were we going with these licks re improv?
Hey Darius. Made short vid of me trying to implement your right hand advice.what you think
I'm not sure You've noticed. I've made a complex lesson for the right hand. There is a lot of details for all the angles etc. Please chek it out for more info:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Alternate-Picking-Basics/
As for Your vid it's a good start I would flex the thumb and index finger a bit more so the pick will be angled and You will have an ability to change the angle in both directions. It's like pulling both - thumb and index finger towards the inside of a palm. You will find that the tip of a pick is not directed "in line" with the direction of index finger
Will make these changes.thanks
Give me a sign if You need any addition help or just post Your progress videos I remember when I was changing my pick grip it took me some time to figure out things that I played before but later I could say it was worth it
Embedded vid as suggested
Looking forward to your advice.Thanks Tony
Ok. So let's just fix little details - too much at the same time will not help You at all so...I will point just a few things (not all of the suggestions for this vid) in one post
1. Take a deep breath and be more confident with those 3 enetring notes. Play the harder. Spent a few minutes to organize the picking direction and stick to it (confusion of picking direction is one of the main problems to get precise playing).
For example - I would start from the upstroke. This way You will get first important note (moment where the drums come in) on t5he downstroke, and keep regular motion of the hand. You could also do this with only downstrokes.
2 --- 0:06 - 0:07 - try to keep this note as long as possible. don't mute the sustain. Just move the hand to next note in the last, possible moment. Exactyl the same thing with 0:12 - You cut that beautiful sustain to early
Your idea for the first half is one of best things You posted here on GMC. It has colors, melody rhythm concept and dynamics (raking, soft notes, vibrato). I woul keep this part exactly the way it is...only add some little tweaks - precission and it would something really great You made here!
I'm waiting You're wellcome - it's nice to see You getting better and better
Thanks
Increased distortion.More attack on opening notes.Held ending notes longer.
Any better?
Well done my friend! This is the smoothness and a bite we need at this beautiful, melodic part! also You did very good job with the long notes
Things to work at the moment - legato strength and still the right hand (look a bit frozen when we look at the wrist and fingers) they coul help with some lick by changing the angle. The "frozen" effect is very visible when You try to play the arpeggio.
It's hard to say if it is tensed but basicly our hand has a few muscles that help us to get the picking motion. All at the same time - forearm, wrist, fingers. In Your case I see only forearm. This is why Your hand look like frozen...You know,...the artificial palm glued to Your forearm...it doesn't move
For example. You can angle You fingers to reach next string instead of moving whole forearm. But to be able to do this You would have to change Your default fingers angle...so You could do both:
1. Pull them towards the center of a palm to reach lower string
2. Push them completely straight (like You have now) to reach higher strings
Of course the forearm is still invloved, but it make smaller movements
No no...it's not so simple to explain. Sweep is a bit different story but also in it's case when going down we change 3 things:
1. Forearm position
2. Wrist angle (just like while playing open chords on acoustic)
3. We use fingers to change pick angle.
If You take a close look at many guru players You will see that while going back to low strings the angle between forearm and wrist increases. Now it should be increased on the start so You're making it straight while going to the higher strings.
Hey darius. Hope well. Have inserted quick vid of recent rt hand to see if moving in right direction. thanks Tony
You hand angles looks great now! I would only add the whole wrist slide down when You go to play on high strings Well done Tony!
Not necessary but it can be one of the reasons. Try to move Your palm a bit left. Remember to always keep the soft part of a palm with the strings when You palm mute.
More reasons are
1. Type of the tone
2. Type of guitar
3. Pick angle
4. Pick thickness (my thin pick give extra amount of "percussive" flavour. That one of many reasons I use those instead of thick ones. But this is just a tip...no a must
Can You post a vid of your best possible palm muting tone and similar cam angle to clearly see the right hand? Just like You did in previous posts?
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