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Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 11 2012, 05:59 AM
Hello again! 
I have a few questions so I know exactly what assignments to give you!
Also I need to know how much time do you have to practice theory!
Theory questions (will help me to get a better idea where to start! )
- Harmonize G major scale
- Build A7 chord
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
- D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
Looking forward to start working with you!
Posted by: SubbedChris Sep 11 2012, 04:08 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 11 2012, 04:59 AM) 
Hello again!
I have a few questions so I know exactly what assignments to give you!
Also I need to know how much time do you have to practice theory!
Theory questions (will help me to get a better idea where to start! )
- Harmonize G major scale
- Build A7 chord
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
- D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
Looking forward to start working with you!
I have a few questions so I know exactly what assignments to give you!
Also I need to know how much time do you have to practice theory!
Theory questions (will help me to get a better idea where to start! )
- Harmonize G major scale
- Build A7 chord
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
- D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
Looking forward to start working with you!
-Harmonize G major scale
Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj D7 Emin F#dim Gmaj
-Build A7 chord
Formula of a 7th chord is 1 3 5 b7 so it is A C# E G
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
It is Cmi7-F7-Bbmaj7
- Dmi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
If we harmonize the F major,we can have these chords so the key must be F for this chord progression!
I have three questions
1)How can I start learning scales?
I mean,for the A pentatonic we typically know it is something like this
E||----------------------5-8
B||------------------5-8----
G||--------------5-7--------
D||----------5-7------------
A||------5-7----------------
E||--5-8--------------------
The thing is there notes all over the fretboard for the A pentatonic and every scale. So how can I use some patterns in order to understand where all notes on the fretboard for each scale are?
2)If we have for example E7 chord on a chord progression can we have another seventh chord on that progression? If yes how? I mean on the G major up there for example we have a D7 chord. What we can use is one of the other ones (Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj Emin F#dim) but we can use another seventh?
3)If we have a song whose chord progression starts with a major chord,does that mean that's the key of the song??
Well these are for now! I'm an absolute begginer at theory but I have plenty of time to study!!!
Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 12 2012, 06:20 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Sep 11 2012, 03:08 PM)
-Harmonize G major scale
Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj D7 Emin F#dim Gmaj
-Build A7 chord
Formula of a 7th chord is 1 3 5 b7 so it is A C# E G
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
It is Cmi7-F7-Bbmaj7
- Dmi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
If we harmonize the F major,we can have these chords so the key must be F for this chord progression!
I have three questions
1)How can I start learning scales?
I mean,for the A pentatonic we typically know it is something like this
E||----------------------5-8
B||------------------5-8----
G||--------------5-7--------
D||----------5-7------------
A||------5-7----------------
E||--5-8--------------------
The thing is there notes all over the fretboard for the A pentatonic and every scale. So how can I use some patterns in order to understand where all notes on the fretboard for each scale are?
2)If we have for example E7 chord on a chord progression can we have another seventh chord on that progression? If yes how? I mean on the G major up there for example we have a D7 chord. What we can use is one of the other ones (Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj Emin F#dim) but we can use another seventh?
3)If we have a song whose chord progression starts with a major chord,does that mean that's the key of the song??
Well these are for now! I'm an absolute begginer at theory but I have plenty of time to study!!!
Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj D7 Emin F#dim Gmaj
-Build A7 chord
Formula of a 7th chord is 1 3 5 b7 so it is A C# E G
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
It is Cmi7-F7-Bbmaj7
- Dmi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?
If we harmonize the F major,we can have these chords so the key must be F for this chord progression!
I have three questions
1)How can I start learning scales?
I mean,for the A pentatonic we typically know it is something like this
E||----------------------5-8
B||------------------5-8----
G||--------------5-7--------
D||----------5-7------------
A||------5-7----------------
E||--5-8--------------------
The thing is there notes all over the fretboard for the A pentatonic and every scale. So how can I use some patterns in order to understand where all notes on the fretboard for each scale are?
2)If we have for example E7 chord on a chord progression can we have another seventh chord on that progression? If yes how? I mean on the G major up there for example we have a D7 chord. What we can use is one of the other ones (Gmaj Amin Bmin Cmaj Emin F#dim) but we can use another seventh?
3)If we have a song whose chord progression starts with a major chord,does that mean that's the key of the song??
Well these are for now! I'm an absolute begginer at theory but I have plenty of time to study!!!
You did a very good job with the answers!
1) In order to know where each note of the scale is located you have to say out loud each note you are playing
Say for example you are playing A minor pentatonic
Play and say the notes
A - C - D - E - G etc.
Do the first two positions for now and I will give you a very good exercise to combine all of them this method will help you to learn the neck much faster!
2) Yes it is possible to have another 7th chord
A good example will be a standard I - IV - V chord progression Say we are in G chords will be G7 - C7 - D7
Another way you can get it is through melodic and harmonic minors you will have IV7 and V7 chords (This is actually where the blues is coming from but it is another way to look at it! )
Also if you are changing the key the best way is to got through 7th chord of the scale you want to rich
Those three were the first to come in my mind I will try to remember a few more and will let you know!
3) It depends but in most cases yes
Posted by: SubbedChris Sep 12 2012, 10:40 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 12 2012, 05:20 PM)
You did a very good job with the answers!
1) In order to know where each note of the scale is located you have to say out loud each note you are playing
Say for example you are playing A minor pentatonic
Play and say the notes
A - C - D - E - G etc.
Do the first two positions for now and I will give you a very good exercise to combine all of them this method will help you to learn the neck much faster!
2) Yes it is possible to have another 7th chord
A good example will be a standard I - IV - V chord progression Say we are in G chords will be G7 - C7 - D7
Another way you can get it is through melodic and harmonic minors you will have IV7 and V7 chords (This is actually where the blues is coming from but it is another way to look at it! )
Also if you are changing the key the best way is to got through 7th chord of the scale you want to rich
Those three were the first to come in my mind I will try to remember a few more and will let you know!
3) It depends but in most cases yes
1) In order to know where each note of the scale is located you have to say out loud each note you are playing
Say for example you are playing A minor pentatonic
Play and say the notes
A - C - D - E - G etc.
Do the first two positions for now and I will give you a very good exercise to combine all of them this method will help you to learn the neck much faster!
2) Yes it is possible to have another 7th chord
A good example will be a standard I - IV - V chord progression Say we are in G chords will be G7 - C7 - D7
Another way you can get it is through melodic and harmonic minors you will have IV7 and V7 chords (This is actually where the blues is coming from but it is another way to look at it! )
Also if you are changing the key the best way is to got through 7th chord of the scale you want to rich
Those three were the first to come in my mind I will try to remember a few more and will let you know!
3) It depends but in most cases yes
Wow,really cool man!!
Waiting for next assignment!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 15 2012, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Sep 12 2012, 09:40 PM)
Wow,really cool man!! Waiting for next assignment!!!!!!!!
Waiting for next assignment!!!!!!!!I have a perfect exercise for you! It will help you to master modes plus will bring your alternative picking to the next level!
Modes being used:
F# Locrian - G major - A dorian - B phrygian - C Lydian - D mixolydian - E minor
Here it is!
E ||----------------------------------------------3----|
B ||-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
G ||o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
D ||o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
A ||----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
E ||-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|
--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||---|---|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||---|---|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||o--|--o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||o--|--o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||---|---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||---|---|||
----------------------------------------------5----|
-------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
-3--5--7-------------------------------------------|
--7--8--7--5---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------8--7--5------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------7--5--4--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------7--5--4-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||
----------------------------------------------7----|
-------------------------------------7--8--10------|
o---------------------------5--7--9----------------|
o------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
-5--7--8-------------------------------------------|
--8--10-8--7---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------10-8--7------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------9--7--5--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------9--7--5-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------9--7--5---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||
----------------------------------------------8----|
-------------------------------------8--10-12------|
o---------------------------7--9--11---------------|
o------------------7--9--10------------------------|
----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
-7--8--10------------------------------------------|
--10-12-10-8---------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------12-10-8------------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------11-9--7--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------10-9--7-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------10-9--7---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||
----------------------------------------------10---|
-------------------------------------10-12-13------|
o---------------------------9--11-12---------------|
o------------------9--10-12------------------------|
----------9--10-12---------------------------------|
-8--10-12------------------------------------------|
--12-14-12-10--------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------13-12-10-----------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------12-11-9--------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------12-10-9-----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------12-10-9---||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||
----------------------------------------------12---|
-------------------------------------12-13-15------|
o---------------------------11-12-14---------------|
o------------------10-12-14------------------------|
----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
-10-12-14------------------------------------------|
--14-15-14-12--------------------------------------||----|----||
--------------15-14-12-----------------------------||----|----||
-----------------------14-12-11-------------------o||----|----||
--------------------------------14-12-10----------o||----|----||
-----------------------------------------14-12-10--||----|----||
---------------------------------------------------||----|----||
----------------------------------------------14---|
-------------------------------------13-15-17------|
o---------------------------12-14-16---------------|
o------------------12-14-16------------------------|
----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
-12-14-15------------------------------------------|
--15-17-15-14--------------------------------------||----|----|
--------------17-15-13-----------------------------||----|----|
-----------------------16-14-12-------------------o||----|----|
--------------------------------16-14-12----------o||----|----|
-----------------------------------------15-14-12--||----|----|
---------------------------------------------------||----|----|
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--------------------------------------13-15-17------|
-----------------------------12-14-16---------------|
--------------------12-14-16------------------------|
-----------12-14-15---------------------------------|
--12-14-15------------------------------------------|
--15-17-15-14---------------------------------------|
--------------17-15-13------------------------------|
-----------------------16-14-12---------------------|
--------------------------------16-14-12------------|
-----------------------------------------15-14-12---|
----------------------------------------------------|
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--------------------------------------12-13-15------|
-----------------------------11-12-14---------------|
--------------------10-12-14------------------------|
-----------10-12-14---------------------------------|
--10-12-14------------------------------------------|
--14-15-14-12---------------------------------------|
--------------15-14-12------------------------------|
-----------------------14-12-11---------------------|
--------------------------------14-12-10------------|
-----------------------------------------14-12-10---|
----------------------------------------------------|
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--------------------------------------10-12-13------|
-----------------------------9--11-12---------------|
--------------------9--10-12------------------------|
-----------9--10-12---------------------------------|
--8--10-12------------------------------------------|
--12-14-12-10---------------------------------------|
--------------13-12-10------------------------------|
-----------------------12-11-9----------------------|
--------------------------------12-10-9-------------|
-----------------------------------------12-10-9----|
----------------------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------------8----|
--------------------------------------8--10-12------|
-----------------------------7--9--11---------------|
--------------------7--9--10------------------------|
-----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
--7--8--10------------------------------------------|
--10-12-10-8----------------------------------------|
--------------12-10-8-------------------------------|
-----------------------11-9--7----------------------|
--------------------------------10-9--7-------------|
-----------------------------------------10-9--7----|
----------------------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------------7----|
--------------------------------------7--8--10------|
-----------------------------5--7--9----------------|
--------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
-----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
--5--7--8-------------------------------------------|
--8--10-8--7----------------------------------------|
--------------10-8--7-------------------------------|
-----------------------9--7--5----------------------|
--------------------------------9--7--5-------------|
-----------------------------------------9--7--5----|
----------------------------------------------------|
-----------------------------------------------5----|
--------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
-----------------------------4--5--7----------------|
--------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
-----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
--3--5--7-------------------------------------------|
--7--8--7--5----------------------------------------||
--------------8--7--5-------------------------------||
-----------------------7--5--4----------------------||
--------------------------------7--5--4-------------||
-----------------------------------------7--5--3----||
----------------------------------------------------||
----------------------------------------------3----|
-------------------------------------3--5--7-------|
o---------------------------2--4--5----------------|
o------------------2--4--5-------------------------|
----------2--3--5----------------------------------|
-2--3--5-------------------------------------------|
--5--7--5--3---------------------------------------|||
--------------7--5--3------------------------------|||
-----------------------5--4--2--------------------o|||
--------------------------------5--4--2-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------5--3--2---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||
----------------------------------------------7----|
-------------------------------------7--8--10------|
o---------------------------5--7--9----------------|
o------------------5--7--9-------------------------|
----------5--7--9----------------------------------|
-5--7--8-------------------------------------------|
--8--10-8--7---------------------------------------|||
--------------10-8--7------------------------------|||
-----------------------9--7--5--------------------o|||
--------------------------------9--7--5-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------9--7--5---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||
----------------------------------------------8----|
-------------------------------------8--10-12------|
o---------------------------7--9--11---------------|
o------------------7--9--10------------------------|
----------7--9--10---------------------------------|
-7--8--10------------------------------------------|
--10-12-10-8---------------------------------------|||
--------------12-10-8------------------------------|||
-----------------------11-9--7--------------------o|||
--------------------------------10-9--7-----------o|||
-----------------------------------------10-9--7---|||
---------------------------------------------------|||
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-------------------------------------5--7--8-------|
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7-------------------------|
----------3--5--7----------------------------------|
-3--5--7-------------------------------------------|
--7--8--7--5---------------------------------------|||
--------------8--7--5------------------------------|||
-----------------------7--5--4--------------------o|||
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---------------------------------------------------|||
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--------------------------------16-14-12----------o||
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---------------------------------------------------||
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--5--7--5--3----------------------------------------|-------||
--------------7--5--3-------------------------------|-------||
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--------------------------------5--4--2-------------|-------||
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: 133I would like you to start by getting use to those shapes and when you will be learning them try to call out notes it will help you to master the neck better! And know exactly where all the notes are!
And here is a cool part of this exercise!
I played a track and would like you to play along with me!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/modes-workout
Just get comfortable with it first and I will explain what to do next!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!
Posted by: SubbedChris Sep 16 2012, 01:28 AM
Wow cool exercise!!!! I'll start working on it! Two questions before I post something
1)Do you want me to record something above your take? Wouldn't it be better if I had the backing track??
2)If I play this lick for example
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7----------4-5-4--------------|
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
will I be playing G Ionian or F# Locrian? (Just because I'm starting on the F# note,but the pattern is on the G Ionian)
Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 17 2012, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Sep 16 2012, 12:28 AM)
Wow cool exercise!!!! I'll start working on it! Two questions before I post something
1)Do you want me to record something above your take? Wouldn't it be better if I had the backing track??
2)If I play this lick for example
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7----------4-5-4--------------|
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
will I be playing G Ionian or F# Locrian? (Just because I'm starting on the F# note,but the pattern is on the G Ionian)
1)Do you want me to record something above your take? Wouldn't it be better if I had the backing track??
2)If I play this lick for example
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
o---------------------------4--5--7----------------|
o------------------4--5--7----------4-5-4--------------|
---------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------
will I be playing G Ionian or F# Locrian? (Just because I'm starting on the F# note,but the pattern is on the G Ionian)
Glad you like it!
If you can record something that would be great! Backing track is not necessary but I can upload it if you want me to!
Since you have started from F# it will make it Locrian
The thing is all modes are the part of the same scale! Nothing really will change except of the starting note
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!
Posted by: SubbedChris Sep 25 2012, 06:28 PM
Cool I did the exercise!! I can't record anything because my friend has the sound card (POD) but I did the exercise!! Very cool I think I should do it with all scales!
Just a question....by learning the major scales,it means I've learned the minor ones? For example,now that I learned G Major doesn't it mean I can freely used E Minor(Aeolian)?
Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 27 2012, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Sep 25 2012, 05:28 PM)
Cool I did the exercise!! I can't record anything because my friend has the sound card (POD) but I did the exercise!! Very cool I think I should do it with all scales!
Just a question....by learning the major scales,it means I've learned the minor ones? For example,now that I learned G Major doesn't it mean I can freely used E Minor(Aeolian)?
I think I should do it with all scales!Just a question....by learning the major scales,it means I've learned the minor ones? For example,now that I learned G Major doesn't it mean I can freely used E Minor(Aeolian)?
I am glad you have learned it!
You learned all modes major and minor already! The thing is it doesn't matter if it is major or minor it is the same scale the only difference is a starting note! Say for example:
G - A - B - C - D - E - F# is a G major scale (G Ionian)
B - C - D - E - F# - G - A is a B phrygian
As you can see it is the same scale just different starting note!
I hope that makes sense!
What would you like to do next?
Maybe start getting into improvisation?
Let me know!
Posted by: SubbedChris Sep 27 2012, 11:56 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 27 2012, 03:02 PM)
I am glad you have learned it!
You learned all modes major and minor already! The thing is it doesn't matter if it is major or minor it is the same scale the only difference is a starting note! Say for example:
G - A - B - C - D - E - F# is a G major scale (G Ionian)
B - C - D - E - F# - G - A is a B phrygian
As you can see it is the same scale just different starting note!
I hope that makes sense!
What would you like to do next?
Maybe start getting into improvisation?
Let me know!
You learned all modes major and minor already! The thing is it doesn't matter if it is major or minor it is the same scale the only difference is a starting note! Say for example:
G - A - B - C - D - E - F# is a G major scale (G Ionian)
B - C - D - E - F# - G - A is a B phrygian
As you can see it is the same scale just different starting note!
I hope that makes sense!
What would you like to do next?
Maybe start getting into improvisation?
Let me know!
We already have a guitar mentoring thread going so I think we should do other theory stuff here!
Posted by: Alex Feather Sep 30 2012, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Sep 27 2012, 10:56 PM)
We already have a guitar mentoring thread going so I think we should do other theory stuff here!
So would you like to work on improvisation or something else? Let me know!
Posted by: SubbedChris Oct 4 2012, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 30 2012, 03:23 PM)
So would you like to work on improvisation or something else? Let me know!
I would like to get more on theory! For example,chord progressions and how to know which scales I can play on that certain chord progression! Generally,I'm no good at theory
Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 4 2012, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Oct 4 2012, 12:38 AM)
I would like to get more on theory! For example,chord progressions and how to know which scales I can play on that certain chord progression! Generally,I'm no good at theory
Sounds good! Let's do this way! You will write a chord progression 4 chords and I will explain you what to use over it and why! This way will be much easier for you to understand!
Posted by: SubbedChris Oct 9 2012, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 4 2012, 07:15 PM)
Sounds good! Let's do this way! You will write a chord progression 4 chords and I will explain you what to use over it and why! This way will be much easier for you to understand!
Cool!!
Well something easy for starters like this chord progression! Am-F-Dm-G!!What can I play over that one and why???
Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 11 2012, 05:12 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Oct 9 2012, 06:46 PM)
Cool!! Well something easy for starters like this chord progression! Am-F-Dm-G!!
What can I play over that one and why???
Well something easy for starters like this chord progression! Am-F-Dm-G!!What can I play over that one and why???
Let's figure out in what key this is in
Posted by: SubbedChris Oct 12 2012, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 11 2012, 04:12 AM)
Let's figure out in what key this is in
I think it's C Major!
Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 14 2012, 05:48 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Oct 12 2012, 10:40 AM)
I think it's C Major!
Why do you think it is in C major?
Posted by: SubbedChris Oct 14 2012, 07:28 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 14 2012, 04:48 PM)
Why do you think it is in C major?
Because the C is : Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj
And the chord progression has chords from above!
But by the way you said it,it's probably not
Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 16 2012, 08:13 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Oct 14 2012, 06:28 PM)
Because the C is : Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj
And the chord progression has chords from above!
But by the way you said it,it's probably not
And the chord progression has chords from above!
But by the way you said it,it's probably not
You are almost correct! There is no Bb though in C major there is natural B
Bb will be in C mixolydian scale
Are you familiar with circle of fifth? It is the way flats and sharps being added
Let me know and I can explain it in details
Posted by: SubbedChris Oct 16 2012, 04:51 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 16 2012, 07:13 AM)
You are almost correct! There is no Bb though in C major there is natural B
Bb will be in C mixolydian scale
Are you familiar with circle of fifth? It is the way flats and sharps being added
Let me know and I can explain it in details
Bb will be in C mixolydian scale
Are you familiar with circle of fifth? It is the way flats and sharps being added
Let me know and I can explain it in details
I have no idea what the circle of fifth is :\ yeah I would like you to explain that?
And why do you mention Bb? I didn't have that one on the chord progression! Truth is though the song I had on my mind when I posted this chord progression has that chord afterwards!
Posted by: Alex Feather Oct 18 2012, 06:58 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Oct 16 2012, 03:51 PM)
I have no idea what the circle of fifth is :\ yeah I would like you to explain that?
And why do you mention Bb? I didn't have that one on the chord progression! Truth is though the song I had on my mind when I posted this chord progression has that chord afterwards!
And why do you mention Bb? I didn't have that one on the chord progression! Truth is though the song I had on my mind when I posted this chord progression has that chord afterwards!
In music theory, the circle of fifths (or circle of fourths) is a visual representation of the relationships among the 12 tones of the chromatic scale, their corresponding key signatures, and the associated major and minor keys. More specifically, it is a geometrical representation of relationships among the 12 pitch classes of the chromatic scale in pitch class space.
The term 'fifth' defines an interval or mathematical ratio which is the closest and most consonant non-octave interval. The circle of fifths is a sequence of pitches or key tonalities, represented as a circle, in which the next pitch is found seven semitones higher than the last. Musicians and composers use the circle of fifths to understand and describe the musical relationships among some selection of those pitches. The circle's design is helpful in composing and harmonizing melodies, building chords, and moving to different keys within a composition
At the top of the circle, the key of C Major has no sharps or flats. Starting from the apex and proceeding clockwise by ascending fifths, the key of G has one sharp, the key of D has 2 sharps, and so on. Similarly, proceeding counterclockwise from the apex by descending fifths, the key of F has one flat, the key of B♭ has 2 flats, and so on. At the bottom of the circle, the sharp and flat keys overlap.
So to make it simpler by knowing circle of fifths you will understand how sharps and flats being added!
So here is the circle of fifths:
You will have to memorize the order of sharps and flats
Sharp being added in this order:
F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#
Flats being aded in this order:
Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb - Cb
Here is the breakdown of major scales and parallel minors with sharps and flats:
G (E minor) = F#
D (B minor) = F# - C#
A (F# minor) = F# - C# - G#
E (C# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D#
B (G# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D# - A#
F# (D# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#
F (D minor) = Bb
Bb (G minor) = Bb - Eb
Eb (C minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab
Ab (F minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db
Db (Bb minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb
Gb ( Eb minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb - Cb
Let me know if you have any questions!
Posted by: SubbedChris Nov 9 2012, 05:08 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Oct 18 2012, 05:58 AM)
In music theory, the circle of fifths (or circle of fourths) is a visual representation of the relationships among the 12 tones of the chromatic scale, their corresponding key signatures, and the associated major and minor keys. More specifically, it is a geometrical representation of relationships among the 12 pitch classes of the chromatic scale in pitch class space.
The term 'fifth' defines an interval or mathematical ratio which is the closest and most consonant non-octave interval. The circle of fifths is a sequence of pitches or key tonalities, represented as a circle, in which the next pitch is found seven semitones higher than the last. Musicians and composers use the circle of fifths to understand and describe the musical relationships among some selection of those pitches. The circle's design is helpful in composing and harmonizing melodies, building chords, and moving to different keys within a composition
At the top of the circle, the key of C Major has no sharps or flats. Starting from the apex and proceeding clockwise by ascending fifths, the key of G has one sharp, the key of D has 2 sharps, and so on. Similarly, proceeding counterclockwise from the apex by descending fifths, the key of F has one flat, the key of B♭ has 2 flats, and so on. At the bottom of the circle, the sharp and flat keys overlap.
So to make it simpler by knowing circle of fifths you will understand how sharps and flats being added!
So here is the circle of fifths:
You will have to memorize the order of sharps and flats
Sharp being added in this order:
F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#
Flats being aded in this order:
Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb - Cb
Here is the breakdown of major scales and parallel minors with sharps and flats:
G (E minor) = F#
D (B minor) = F# - C#
A (F# minor) = F# - C# - G#
E (C# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D#
B (G# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D# - A#
F# (D# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#
F (D minor) = Bb
Bb (G minor) = Bb - Eb
Eb (C minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab
Ab (F minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db
Db (Bb minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb
Gb ( Eb minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb - Cb
Let me know if you have any questions!
The term 'fifth' defines an interval or mathematical ratio which is the closest and most consonant non-octave interval. The circle of fifths is a sequence of pitches or key tonalities, represented as a circle, in which the next pitch is found seven semitones higher than the last. Musicians and composers use the circle of fifths to understand and describe the musical relationships among some selection of those pitches. The circle's design is helpful in composing and harmonizing melodies, building chords, and moving to different keys within a composition
At the top of the circle, the key of C Major has no sharps or flats. Starting from the apex and proceeding clockwise by ascending fifths, the key of G has one sharp, the key of D has 2 sharps, and so on. Similarly, proceeding counterclockwise from the apex by descending fifths, the key of F has one flat, the key of B♭ has 2 flats, and so on. At the bottom of the circle, the sharp and flat keys overlap.
So to make it simpler by knowing circle of fifths you will understand how sharps and flats being added!
So here is the circle of fifths:
You will have to memorize the order of sharps and flats
Sharp being added in this order:
F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#
Flats being aded in this order:
Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb - Cb
Here is the breakdown of major scales and parallel minors with sharps and flats:
G (E minor) = F#
D (B minor) = F# - C#
A (F# minor) = F# - C# - G#
E (C# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D#
B (G# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D# - A#
F# (D# minor) = F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E#
F (D minor) = Bb
Bb (G minor) = Bb - Eb
Eb (C minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab
Ab (F minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db
Db (Bb minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb
Gb ( Eb minor) = Bb - Eb - Ab - Db - Gb - Cb
Let me know if you have any questions!
Yeah,pretty cool way to learn how to use chords and scales!
But I still don't get why you mentioned Bb when I did not! And as I said,there is a Bb chord in the progression afterwards in the song!
Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 11 2012, 12:44 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Nov 9 2012, 04:08 PM)
Yeah,pretty cool way to learn how to use chords and scales!
But I still don't get why you mentioned Bb when I did not! And as I said,there is a Bb chord in the progression afterwards in the song!
But I still don't get why you mentioned Bb when I did not! And as I said,there is a Bb chord in the progression afterwards in the song!
That's what you wrote
QUOTE
Because the C is : Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj
And the chord progression has chords from above!
But by the way you said it,it's probably not
And the chord progression has chords from above!
But by the way you said it,it's probably not
When you harmonized C major scale you wrote Bb and there is no Bb in C major scale
It will be Cmaj - Dmi- Emi -Fmaj- Gmaj- Ami- Bdim
That is why I have posted the circle of fifths
If you will use a Bb in the chord progression you will be doing a modulation in a different key
We can do it as well but let's first figure out the first part!
So what do you think will work over your chord progression?
Posted by: SubbedChris Nov 23 2012, 04:26 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Nov 10 2012, 11:44 PM)
When you harmonized C major scale you wrote Bb and there is no Bb in C major scale
I still don't get this sentence.... :\
I think A Minor or E minor and G Major would do!!!
Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 23 2012, 10:38 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Nov 23 2012, 03:26 PM)
I still don't get this sentence.... :\
I think A Minor or E minor and G Major would do!!!
I think A Minor or E minor and G Major would do!!!
What exactly don't you understand? Let me know and I will explain it in details!
Posted by: SubbedChris Nov 24 2012, 01:51 AM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Nov 23 2012, 09:38 PM)
What exactly don't you understand? Let me know and I will explain it in details!
I don't understand what Bb has to do with C Major Scale!! When I harmonized it I said
C Major:Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj. I never mentioned Bb so I don't know what it has to do with C Major :\
Aside from that,what scales are good for this chord progression??
Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 25 2012, 11:32 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Nov 24 2012, 12:51 AM)
I don't understand what Bb has to do with C Major Scale!! When I harmonized it I said
C Major:Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj. I never mentioned Bb so I don't know what it has to do with C Major :\
Aside from that,what scales are good for this chord progression??
C Major:Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj. I never mentioned Bb so I don't know what it has to do with C Major :\
Aside from that,what scales are good for this chord progression??
Bdim got me confused
I thought you meant Bb! So for this chord progression
Am-F-Dm-G
You can use:
C major scale as you have mentioned
Also D Dorian will work perfectly fine
And here is another trick!
You can assume that G is a 7 chord and can play A phrygian ver it! I will post a backing track soon and we will try it out!
Posted by: Alex Feather Nov 27 2012, 09:19 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Nov 24 2012, 12:51 AM)
I don't understand what Bb has to do with C Major Scale!! When I harmonized it I said
C Major:Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj. I never mentioned Bb so I don't know what it has to do with C Major :\
Aside from that,what scales are good for this chord progression??
C Major:Cmaj,Dmin,Emin,Fmaj,Gmaj,Amin,Bdim,Cmaj. I never mentioned Bb so I don't know what it has to do with C Major :\
Aside from that,what scales are good for this chord progression??
I am creating a backing track for you using the chord progression you have suggested this way we can have a little jam back and forth and I will be making assignments based on it!
Let me know what do you think!
Posted by: SubbedChris Dec 1 2012, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Nov 27 2012, 08:19 AM)
I am creating a backing track for you using the chord progression you have suggested this way we can have a little jam back and forth and I will be making assignments based on it!
Let me know what do you think!
Let me know what do you think!
Cool!!! Pleaso do
I'll be waiting!!!
Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 1 2012, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Dec 1 2012, 07:33 PM)
Cool!!! Pleaso do I'll be waiting!!!
I'll be waiting!!!Awesome! Give me until tomorrow and I will have it ready! I had some technical difficulties with my sound card but today I am gonna replace the part and it should be back to normal
Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 3 2012, 08:03 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Dec 1 2012, 07:33 PM)
Cool!!! Pleaso do I'll be waiting!!!
I'll be waiting!!!Hi So I have created a backing track for you it's based on the same chord progression you have provided
Ami - F - Dmi - G
Let's try to play over it we will be doing a jam back and forth
you will do a take and I will do a take!
Here is what I would like you to use over it
A minor pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
D minor pentatonic
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
Here is the track
A_minor_jam.mp3 ( 2.72MB )
: 120Let me know what do you think
Posted by: SubbedChris Dec 4 2012, 01:16 AM
Very cool backing track!!!! Here is my take!
I would like to see it jammed by more than these scales(either by you or me)!
Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 4 2012, 03:01 AM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Dec 4 2012, 12:16 AM)
Very cool backing track!!!! Here is my take!
I would like to see it jammed by more than these scales(either by you or me)!
Here is my take! I would like to see it jammed by more than these scales(either by you or me)!
You did a very good job! Some very interesting phrases! Watch out for your timing and bends some were a little off! Overall great job! I will post my take with a new assignment soon!
Posted by: SubbedChris Dec 4 2012, 09:31 AM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Dec 4 2012, 02:01 AM)
You did a very good job! Some very interesting phrases! Watch out for your timing and bends some were a little off! Overall great job! I will post my take with a new assignment soon!
Yeah,I was off on some parts..! Waiting for next assignment
Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 4 2012, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Dec 4 2012, 08:31 AM)
Yeah,I was off on some parts..! Waiting for next assignment
Awesome! It seems to me that you know your scales pretty well! I think let's add some extra spice to it!
Let's start working on harmonic minor
We will be using A harmonic minor
the notes are:
A - B - C - D - E - F - G#
I would like to start with pentatonics first
here are the positions I want you to use:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
I did my take to give you ideas and would like you to continue the solo after
Subbed_Chris.mp3 ( 2.72MB )
: 132Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything
Posted by: SubbedChris Dec 5 2012, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Dec 4 2012, 10:10 PM)
Awesome! It seems to me that you know your scales pretty well! I think let's add some extra spice to it!
Let's start working on harmonic minor
We will be using A harmonic minor
the notes are:
A - B - C - D - E - F - G#
I would like to start with pentatonics first
here are the positions I want you to use:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
I did my take to give you ideas and would like you to continue the solo after
Subbed_Chris.mp3 ( 2.72MB )
: 132
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything
Let's start working on harmonic minor
We will be using A harmonic minor
the notes are:
A - B - C - D - E - F - G#
I would like to start with pentatonics first
here are the positions I want you to use:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator
I did my take to give you ideas and would like you to continue the solo after
Subbed_Chris.mp3 ( 2.72MB )
: 132Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything
Awesome,I've never used harmonic minor!! I'll give it a try
Posted by: Alex Feather Dec 5 2012, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (SubbedChris @ Dec 5 2012, 04:03 PM)
Awesome,I've never used harmonic minor!! I'll give it a try
That's great! I am looking forward to hear your take! It is a very fun and unique scale to use!
Lete me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!
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