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GMC Forum _ Collaborations _ Srv Collab, Final Mix And Comments
Posted by: sted Jul 5 2009, 04:47 PM
Hey all!
Just want to start out by saying a big thanks to all those who participated and gave up their time for this collaboration, very much appreciated!!
This has been another great learning experience for me, and to hear everybody's different takes was fantastic and sometimes surprising!! The comments are more for me to try and convey what I heard rather than a critique as such, I would like you come back and discuss anything regarding this collab in here and hopefully we can all benefit from this!
SRV_collab_final_mix_5.7.09.mp3 ( 9.81MB )
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1. IVAN MILENKOVIC 0.00-3.40
The Take: Well what can I say? When I asked for you to take part I didnt mean for you to do it all yourself 
! Seriously though mate this was pretty awe inspiring stuff for a one take improvisation, I heard all sorts of little gems in this that I will be blatantly stealing from you and using in my own playing! The only problem was that you didnt give me a "No backing" take so you will notice the volume swells towards the end of the take because I tried to blend in the blank backing, hardly noticeable!
The Tone: Very SRV tone for my money, it came off very well, which, to be honest, is not a surprise is it!
2. STED 3.40-4.34
The take: didnt really give this the attention it deserved but I want to learn from my mistakes so I'm leaving my origignal take in the mix, seems there was some recording glitches in there as well!
The Tone: sounded ok at the time but I dont think its among the best on here, I would love to know what you guys used!!
3. DEADEVIL 4.35-5.25
The Take: Loved the opening phrase, very cool in my book! You seem to have a good understanding for the feel of the blues and dont overplay it but use good techniques in the right places, I really liked it mate! I think you lost it a little towards the end but overall mate this was a really great take on Stevies style!
The Tone: Excellent tone, not too much drive and came through the mix very well, would like to know what gear you used mate!
4. KUBA 5.26-6.20
The Take: What struck me all the way through the take was the amazing dynamics you had in there, I could almost sense what was coming next as you lead the solo through highs and lows, it really was like a story being told, you had some classic stevie tricks in there too that I instantly recognised!! the other thing I like is the way you weave in and out of the major/minor feel, I know this is part and parcel for blues but it just seemed very fluid when you did it!
The tone: Quite mellow but full of feeling, you made the guitar really cry in those bends mate! I suspect that you like playing blues!!
5. LEEDBREAK 6.21-7.12
The Take: Well, talk about different!! You used a lot of feel in there like you said and I think it came off ok, a lot of the notes were out of key but because you intended them to be it kind of works to my ears, you seemed to stalk around the fretboard going off on tangents and then coming back into key and resolving to strong tones, I think thats why you got away with it! This was a really interesting and surprising take mate and I think you pulled it together to give us something really outside the box!
The tone: Really great tone there, very easy to work with and worked well with the backing, great job mate!
6. PAIVA 7.12-8.07
The Take: This was one of my favourite takes, I really liked the mix of Blues licks interspersed with the fast legato runs, I couldnt quite figure out what scales they were, harmonic minor maybe? but they were used for effect and not just as a technique showcase and it works really well to my ears mate, you have a good grasp of the blues and technique in abundance mate!
The tone: I really struggled with the tone you laid down here, it was thick with low end frequencies and I had to flatten nearly all the bass response in the EQ, it turned out ok in the end though so no harm, no foul! Maybe you could share with us what gear you used etc?
7. PRAETORIAN 8.08-8.57
The Take: First of all Ben, thanks for taking part, I know you had your doubts but I'm really glad you did! again like Ivan you didnt give me a "no backing" take so I had to blend the two together so the backing may sound a little strange in places!
I think you left it a bit long in the beginning before you started, pauses and off beat starts are very cool but this just went on a little too long for me, it needed a phrase in the first bar really. When you did get into it I think you did an excellent job, a little shakey on some bends but that will come with time, your note choices were spot on and you followed a simple but effective rhythym all the way through, a great job all round mate, I'm glad you took part!
The tone: the tone you used was a twangy style which can work well with this type of backing, I think a little more pick attack would be a good thing mate, when using a thin tone like this you can get some great results by varying the picking hand technique, try it and see!! I would try and get a little more volume on your recordings too, you want to be able to cut through the backing a little more, Ivan is the master of tone, have a look at how he does things in his lessons mate!
8. ROGER 8.58-9.51
the take: Brilliant take Roger, very enjoyable and dripping with bluesy licks and chops, I loved the bends in there and the all the different scales used, some dorian in there I think? Anyway I really liked everything you did here and thanks for taking part.
The tone: Probably the nicest tone here, that strat of yours sounds amazing! it sat really nicely with the backing and was very clear with just the right amount of drive.
9. STAFFY
The take: I just loved the opening mate, that major sounding lick at the start was just perfect for me (I shall be stealing it immediately and taking all the credit ) again you have a great feel for the blues and seem to really blend the major and minor feel together really well, I think this was probably the one that sounded most like Stevie for me, I suspect (Having looked at your myspace) that you play a lot of blues and that confidence in your style really shines through on the take, really liked it mate, thanks!
the tone: Brilliant tone mate, must be a tubescreamer being used there! there was a little bit of noise in the background, did you record this from a mic'd amp? If not it really has a great natural tube sound and I want know what gear you used immediately
Well thats all of them, if anyone wants to discuss the collab then please just post in this thread and hopefully we can all benefit!
Thanks again to all participants, hope this was as much fun for you as it was for me! 
Posted by: Jesse Jul 5 2009, 05:09 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH GREAT TO LISTEN TOO!
Nice job Sted.
Posted by: Deadevil Jul 5 2009, 05:28 PM
The Take: Loved the opening phrase, very cool in my book! You seem to have a good understanding for the feel of the blues and dont overplay it but use good techniques in the right places, I really liked it mate! I think you lost it a little towards the end but overall mate this was a really great take on Stevies style!
The Tone: Excellent tone, not too much drive and came through the mix very well, would like to know what gear you used mate!
Hey sted,
first of all thanks for the comment and the great collab
In my recording i used the Line 6 pod studio GX i don't remember the settings exact but i think i used a tweed amp along with a clasic distortion and some reverb.
And my take isn't exactly on beat....... i don't know if this is my fault, but i'll be happy if you could fix it
Posted by: sted Jul 5 2009, 05:58 PM
Oops! sorry mate, should be ok now!!
Posted by: Paiva Jul 5 2009, 08:38 PM
Thanks sted! I'm really glad you liked it
And sorry for the tone I really have to work on my presets they have too much bass because I kindda hate too much treble :\
My gear is Pod Studio UX2 same as yours (I think)
Posted by: Deadevil Jul 5 2009, 09:07 PM
i don't mean to be a pain (though i am a bit of a perfectionist
) but the take is still slightly off beat, i don't know if you've noticed it ..... but if you can fix it i'll be very grateful for it.
Posted by: FilipofCroatia Jul 5 2009, 09:37 PM
Great job guys
Posted by: Praetorian Jul 5 2009, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the tips Sted! I will try and use your advice! I really did have a good time with this, and look forward to taking part in some more collabs!
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jul 6 2009, 12:17 AM
Thank you very much for putting this collab together sted, and I want to apologize greatly for forgetting to give you the soloed track! Thanks for putting my take in and for your kind words, I really appreciate it my friend.
Posted by: Emir Hot Jul 6 2009, 02:35 AM
Awesome takes. I really enjoyed listening the whole thing
Posted by: sted Jul 6 2009, 11:00 AM
And sorry for the tone I really have to work on my presets they have too much bass because I kindda hate too much treble :\
My gear is Pod Studio UX2 same as yours (I think)
Yeah, the bass was really heavy in that preset, but I think it sounded ok in the end, I really liked your take mate, thanks again!
) but the take is still slightly off beat, i don't know if you've noticed it ..... but if you can fix it i'll be very grateful for it. Really? I A/B'd it with your upload and it sounded almost perfect! I will, of course have another look!
thanks for taking part mate, you did an outstanding job!
Thanks for your support mate, really appreciated!
Posted by: Sensible Jones Jul 6 2009, 12:01 PM
Sorry I didn't get my take finished Sted! 
Things have been kinda hectic around here with the run-up to Festival Season!
I did manage to give the new Axe a bit of a workout to the backing though, so it wasn't all bad!
Well done everyone else, I really enjoyed listening to your takes!
Posted by: sted Jul 6 2009, 12:02 PM
Things have been kinda hectic around here with the run-up to Festival Season!
I did manage to give the new Axe a bit of a workout to the backing though, so it wasn't all bad!
Well done everyone else, I really enjoyed listening to your takes!
No probs pal, I will probabaly do another blues one anyway soon so you can be first on the list for that one!!
Posted by: Sensible Jones Jul 6 2009, 12:50 PM
You betcha!!!!
Posted by: Deadevil Jul 6 2009, 01:38 PM
Ok thanks
Posted by: leedbreak Jul 7 2009, 05:08 PM
The Take: Well, talk about different!! You used a lot of feel in there like you said and I think it came off ok, a lot of the notes were out of key but because you intended them to be it kind of works to my ears, you seemed to stalk around the fretboard going off on tangents and then coming back into key and resolving to strong tones, I think thats why you got away with it! This was a really interesting and surprising take mate and I think you pulled it together to give us something really outside the box!
The tone: Really great tone there, very easy to work with and worked well with the backing, great job mate!
Well I never was big into blues or SRV but thanks to GMC collabs I am slowly getting there. By force
. I should have paid more attention to key but I just played what came to me and let her go. Thanks for a great collab
Posted by: Sergio Dorado Jul 7 2009, 05:18 PM
Great work guys! Congrats
Posted by: sted Jul 7 2009, 06:54 PM
. I should have paid more attention to key but I just played what came to me and let her go. Thanks for a great collab
I think it was really individual and thought provoking, that in itself is no mean feat, thanks again for your participation mate!
Posted by: Staffy Jul 7 2009, 07:31 PM
First of all I wanna say thanks to Sted who put this collab together.. It was great fun!
You asked what I used, so here it is: The Amp (Fender Hot Rod Deluxe) is miced with two SM57, one in front and one in distance... The guitar is a Mexican Strat with 012 strings and standard mics, I used my Boss OD 20 who got a preset for tube screamer which is great... Nothing else than a little reverb in the mix....
//Staffay
Posted by: sted Jul 7 2009, 09:52 PM
It was great fun!You asked what I used, so here it is: The Amp (Fender Hot Rod Deluxe) is miced with two SM57, one in front and one in distance... The guitar is a Mexican Strat with 012 strings and standard mics, I used my Boss OD 20 who got a preset for tube screamer which is great... Nothing else than a little reverb in the mix....
//Staffay
I'm glad I was right about you using a mic'd amp! The sound was sooo tube in the take!! like the way you use two mic's to get a reverb too I suppose? Thanks again for taking part mate!
Posted by: Velvet Roger Jul 18 2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks Sted for your very nice comments, which is much appreciated. Nice surprise when coming back from sunny Spain
Posted by: sted Jul 18 2009, 05:48 PM
youre welcome mate, thanks again for your input! I forgot you had an EJ strat lol! Well i really liked your sound on this so I guess that re-afirms my decision to get one!
Posted by: Velvet Roger Jul 19 2009, 07:26 AM
Excellent choice! Took me a while though to setup the pickup heights together with the right type of strings (using pure nickel DR strings currently, to add some warmth to the bass strings) to get exactly the sound I am after.
Posted by: Staffy Jul 29 2009, 08:34 AM
I usually use two mics, one pointed close to the cone of the speaker and one in about 2 meters distance. Then it's possible to blend the two mics into another to get the preferred sound, since the distance mic is darker and more "roomier", I use to have it at a lower level than the other one... Also it takes away some of the "attack" in the sound and makes it sound a little smoother.... Btw. I read that Billy Gibbons actually built a ROOM of amplifiers, with about some 10-20 mics inside..... how cool is that ?? (I think he can afford it, though... *lol* )
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